Super League Aftermath.

[domalino]

How can that be true? Currently the club WC is one European team and they have to make up the time. If this is out of season then it's adding to the calendar. It's a shit load of extra games.

It's an absolute no from me. FIFA are corrupt to the core. Just no.

It’s taking the time slot of the confederations cup and it’s removing a maximum of 8 games over 4 years for a UEFA side with a maximum of 5 games over 4 years.

 

[Gareth Barry Conlon]

It’s taking the time slot of the confederations cup and it’s removing a maximum of 8 games over 4 years for a UEFA side with a maximum of 5 games over 4 years.

It's not removing a single game we have ever had in the calendar that I can see.

I've always advocated ditching the league Cup. I'd rather we keep it than play in this.

 

[domalino]

It's not removing a single game we have ever had in the calendar that I can see.

I've always advocated ditching the league Cup. I'd rather we keep it than play in this.

Well as we've never qualified for the club world cup, it's not adding a single game to any calendar we have ever had either, is it?

 

[halfcenturyup]

It's not "confirmed" but it's been leaked back in Februay, much in the same way we knew this competition was happening months ago before the official announcement.

4x CL winners
4x Europa

4x Libertadores
4x Copa Sudamericana

4x AFC CL
4x CAF CL
4x CONCACAF CL

And the last 4 are going to involve some combination of host country's current league champion, teams from the OFC and maybe a previous winner.

The biggest issue IMO is what happens when you've got repeat winners. Does the losing finalist go instead (which has worked for the Charity Shield for decades) and whether they do groups or a seeded straight KO.



Well for a start, they'll be lining their own pockets.

It's scheduled at a time when there's no other football on. With the biggest teams from North America, South America, Africa, Asia, the Middle East and Europe. It is an advertisers wet dream - literally the model CFG was built on. Have teams in every market for common sponsorship. It's why the World Cup is one of the biggest advertising events in the world. Sponsoring it gets you seen in every country in the world.

A Hypothetical 2022 competition would have had -

Real Madrid, Liverpool, Bayern, Chelsea.
Sevilla, Atletico, Villarreal, Frankfurt.
Palmeiras, Flamengo, Santos, River Plate.
Sao Paolo, Independiente, Athletico Paranese, Defensa y Justica
Monterrey, Guadalajara, Tigres, Seattle Sounders
Al Ahly, Wydad, Kaizer Chiefs, ES Tunis.
Al-Hilal, Ulsan Hyundai, Urawa Red Diamons, Kahshima Antlers.
Auckland City, LAFC, 2 others.

So teams from The UK, Spain, Germany, Brazil, Argentina, Colombia, Mexico, the USA, Egypt, Morrocco, South Africa, Tunisia, Saudi Arabia, South Korea, Japan, New Zealand. You think there might be money in advertising to those markets? TV companies might pay to host the only competitive football during the offseason?

Secondly, it's good for the game, and which is ultimately good for them.

European teams are the ones who benefit from global football. The Premier League makes more money selling TV overseas now than domestically. Julian Alvarez, Yaya Touré, Paulo Wanchope etc. didn't just appear in Europe. They had to be developed in their home countries, and putting some money back into those countries is good for everyone.


And scrapping the confederations cup and old club world cup to not make this effect the calendar more is a really sensible way to go about it.

We better get on and win the CL once every four years then :)

 

[halfcenturyup]

If Seattle Sounders and Wydad managed to knock out Real Madrid, Chelsea, Liverpool, Bayern, Atletico, Sao Paolo, Pameiras etc on their way to the final I would watch the hell out of it.

Don't agree with you on much, but I am with you on this one.

 

[Gareth Barry Conlon]

Well as we've never qualified for the club world cup, it's not adding a single game to any calendar we have ever had either, is it?

I think you've proved your original point was wrong. If you get in this, and it's a bit unclear how you get in it. I assume the rules will be tweaked to shoehorn in the biggest clubs then you have to find the time to play them.

If its a preseason type thing then there Is zero reason to involve FIFA. What are they going to bring to the table apart from corruption? Clubs already fo similar things - just scale them up.

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

If Seattle Sounders and Wydad managed to knock out Real Madrid, Chelsea, Liverpool, Bayern, Atletico, Sao Paolo, Pameiras etc on their way to the final I would watch the hell out of it.

I thought Palmeiras was the Italian team. :)

 

[RACHACE]

Could be mint trip following City all over America in the summer.

 

[Andouble]

think it's a neat idea especially if it takes the place of preseason friendlies, but unless the prize money is huge (and the players get a large cut of it), its an idea that sounds way better in FIFA the video game than in real life, with players going through the motions unless there's some prestige attached to it.

 

[hammocity]

How can that be true? Currently the club WC is one European team and they have to make up the time. If this is out of season then it's adding to the calendar. It's a shit load of extra games.

It's an absolute no from me. FIFA are corrupt to the core. Just no.

Correct, a pre season tournament of up to 7 games schlepping all over the USA for the first one will mean no preparation for the start of the season. Anything that Infantino proposes is on the back of FIFA trying to match UEFA’s finances. Fuck them off, Europe is where the competition is; not the second rate product the rest of the world provides, how many in here take time to watch any football outside Europe? I’ve never watched a domestic game in the rest of the world.