super swp lets rip on city players letting down the team.

[skinhead123]

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new article fro the telegraph

 

[moomba]

Yeah but they couldn't talk about working hard could they, because all they are doing at the moment is going through the motions

I'd love to see stats on the amount of distance covered by our players, I suspect Robinho would be down in the last month but he is clearly suffering with injury. I think Elano would surprise a few. I know ProZone do some good stats including intensity and the like, not sure if anything like that is publically available.

 

[kippax casual]

Yeah but they couldn't talk about working hard could they, because all they are doing at the moment is going through the motions

I'd love to see stats on the amount of distance covered by our players, I suspect Robinho would be down in the last month but he is clearly suffering with injury. I think Elano would surprise a few. I know ProZone do some good stats including intensity and the like, not sure if anything like that is publically available.

I don't think that Elano or Robinho would be anywhere near to Ireland, Wright Phillips Zaba, Garrido Vassell Kompany, I could probably continue. Yes opta do stats but statistics can also be very misleading I have eyes in my head and these two are clearly not interested.

 

[moomba]

I don't think that Elano or Robinho would be anywhere near to Ireland, Wright Phillips Zaba, Garrido Vassell Kompany, I could probably continue. Yes opta do stats but statistics can also be very misleading I have eyes in my head and these two are clearly not interested.

I'd say Elano and Robinho would be miles ahead of 4 of the names you mentioned. But not worth discussing, you've made your mind up.

 

[SWPISHOME]

Its rididulous the way we have to name the players thats working hard, The 11 players that hughes sends out should work as hard as eachother and work together, Thats why were in the position were in at the minute, We have to many lazy B*stards at the club.

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

Sven couldn't motivate these players. Trying to save Sven's job couldn't motivate them. The money doesn't motivate them. The fans don't motivate them. Hughes can't motivate them. The thought of trying to save their jobs Jan or Summer doesn't motivate them. The thought of playing out of their skins to attract interest from elsewhere even if they go doesn't seem to motivate them. Their team-mates can't seem to motivate them.

That's one of the best paragraphs I've ever seen on here. Well said mate.

These players are paid fortunes to do a job that we would do for nothing. Yet some of them can't be bothered getting off their arses and putting in a shift. It's "training's too hard". We've got about six or seven players that are prepared to step up and be counted and a whole lot more that are just prepared to turn up, be mediocre, take their 20 or 30k and go home again.

We've had far too many of these over the last few years - Dabo, Miller, Samaras, Corradi, Sinclair, Jordan, McManaman, Fowler, Reyna, Sibierski, Mills, etc. No wonder players like James, Cole, Barton and Distin got pissed off (and I'm no fan of Barton but you could never accuse him of not turning up). I'm quite happy to have a manager that knows a waster when he sees one.

 

[Wheelsy]

Sven couldn't motivate these players. Trying to save Sven's job couldn't motivate them. The money doesn't motivate them. The fans don't motivate them. Hughes can't motivate them. The thought of trying to save their jobs Jan or Summer doesn't motivate them. The thought of playing out of their skins to attract interest from elsewhere even if they go doesn't seem to motivate them. Their team-mates can't seem to motivate them.

That's one of the best paragraphs I've ever seen on here. Well said mate.

These players are paid fortunes to do a job that we would do for nothing. Yet some of them can't be bothered getting off their arses and putting in a shift. It's "training's too hard". We've got about six or seven players that are prepared to step up and be counted and a whole lot more that are just prepared to turn up, be mediocre, take their 20 or 30k and go home again.

We've had far too many of these over the last few years - Dabo, Miller, Samaras, Corradi, Sinclair, Jordan, McManaman, Fowler, Reyna, Sibierski, Mills, etc. No wonder players like James, Cole, Barton and Distin got pissed off (and I'm no fan of Barton but you could never accuse him of not turning up). I'm quite happy to have a manager that knows a waster when he sees one.

And of course there's that one player in particular, who played maybe four good games before succumbing to "injury", is always "two weeks" from a comeback, who in reality doesn't even look fit enough to take the field. And his reward? A bumper five-year extension.

This, as well as the aforementioned names, seems to say that there really is something not right in the club from the ground up.

 

[leewill31]

i belive that there are some players in this squad that know there time is up very soon under hughes and in maybe knowing this just seem to be takeing the piss whilst draging the team down with them.

 

[Cheltblue]

What would have been the response if Hughes had said this? Something like this: "Typical excuses, he just wants a Blackburn style side, all huff and no ability, blaming it on the players when it's his tactics, substitutions, and losing the dressing room which has been proven withoutashadowofadoubtcoseveryonekeepsreapetingitsoitmustbetrue"?

No.

SWEEP says it, well, it's gospel. Who signed Sweep? Hadn't Sweep been at Chelsea for a few weeks? Perhaps he knows what a winning side does for basics? Robinho talks about "winning mentality" and no one knows if it's okay to take him to task, and if it is, how far to go...but if Hughes had said such things, different response I think.

It's personal with Hughes isn't it?

Sven couldn't motivate these players. Trying to save Sven's job couldn't motivate them. The money doesn't motivate them. The fans don't motivate them. Hughes can't motivate them. The thought of trying to save their jobs Jan or Summer doesn't motivate them. The thought of playing out of their skins to attract interest from elsewhere even if they go doesn't seem to motivate them. Their team-mates can't seem to motivate them.

Bloody hell, and I'm actually ambivalent about Hughes! His supporters ought to pulling their hair out at some of the winking that's being going at at PLAYER failures and laying it at his desk.

Seems Sweep and Kompany are motivated. Why is that? Character? Ireland seems motivated. What can explain this? Hughes? Character? Bit of both? Are these three "typical" Hughes cloggers we hear so much about? Is Zab motivated? Garrido is looking much better than last season. Is he motivated?

I have been giving Hughes stick like most and still have to say i am waiting for him to show me the slightest improvement in the team and begin taking us in the direction that every City fan craves, regardless of their opinions.

But this post is 100% bang on the money.

One of the very few posts that have made me question my own views on current situation.

 

[bluefandk]

None of this means fuck all, what matters is what happens out on the pitch tomorrow. If we lose everybody is fucked the manager players and fans!

 

[Ric]

I don't think that Elano or Robinho would be anywhere near to Ireland, Wright Phillips Zaba, Garrido Vassell Kompany, I could probably continue. Yes opta do stats but statistics can also be very misleading I have eyes in my head and these two are clearly not interested.

I'd say Elano and Robinho would be miles ahead of 4 of the names you mentioned. But not worth discussing, you've made your mind up.

I guess it's not really that important in the scheme of things, but if you think Elano and Robinho cover more ground than Ireland and Wright-Phillips you're not watching the same games I've seen.

 

[scall11]

Maybe it's about time we sacked Hughes and got this man:

I mean, if Mr Motivator can't do it, we're screwed.

 

[moomba]

I guess it's not really that important in the scheme of things, but if you think Elano and Robinho cover more ground than Ireland and Wright-Phillips you're not watching the same games I've seen.

Ireland and SWP weren't among the 4 names I had in mind.

 

[Ric]

Apologies, I misread your post.

 

[Bovril]

I have not read all the posts so if this has been said previously sorry, Is this really Sweeps words or has the MCFC PR machine working overtime. I mean come on leak a story by the fans favourite to give the manager a glowing report and blame everyone else, to me its a bit suspect. Oh and I forgot to say I am a Hughes supporter until Jan (But only just).

 

[moomba]

Apologies, I misread your post.

No probs.

 

[waterfootblues]

What would have been the response if Hughes had said this? Something like this: "Typical excuses, he just wants a Blackburn style side, all huff and no ability, blaming it on the players when it's his tactics, substitutions, and losing the dressing room which has been proven withoutashadowofadoubtcoseveryonekeepsreapetingitsoitmustbetrue"?

No.

SWEEP says it, well, it's gospel. Who signed Sweep? Hadn't Sweep been at Chelsea for a few weeks? Perhaps he knows what a winning side does for basics? Robinho talks about "winning mentality" and no one knows if it's okay to take him to task, and if it is, how far to go...but if Hughes had said such things, different response I think.

It's personal with Hughes isn't it?

Sven couldn't motivate these players. Trying to save Sven's job couldn't motivate them. The money doesn't motivate them. The fans don't motivate them. Hughes can't motivate them. The thought of trying to save their jobs Jan or Summer doesn't motivate them. The thought of playing out of their skins to attract interest from elsewhere even if they go doesn't seem to motivate them. Their team-mates can't seem to motivate them.

Bloody hell, and I'm actually ambivalent about Hughes! His supporters ought to pulling their hair out at some of the winking that's being going at at PLAYER failures and laying it at his desk.

Seems Sweep and Kompany are motivated. Why is that? Character? Ireland seems motivated. What can explain this? Hughes? Character? Bit of both? Are these three "typical" Hughes cloggers we hear so much about? Is Zab motivated? Garrido is looking much better than last season. Is he motivated?

Bang on the money Brucie.

 

[moomba]

I have not read all the posts so if this has been said previously sorry, Is this really Sweeps words or has the MCFC PR machine working overtime. I mean come on leak a story by the fans favourite to give the manager a glowing report and blame everyone else, to me its a bit suspect. Oh and I forgot to say I am a Hughes supporter until Jan (But only just).

I think it's one of those things where SWP was always going to be asked about the Hughes situation and he was always going to come out in support of the manager. Ryan Nelson did it last week with Ince, Kevin Nolan did it a few months ago with Megson.

They all pretty much say exactly the same thing, "must work harder", "not managers fault", "blame the players", hurts us as much as the fans" etc etc.

I doubt it was any planned defence of Hughes.

 

[jay_mcfc]

Bla bla bla. This happens every single time a managers job is on the line...players coming out saying how 'happy' the dressing room is, how everyone is 'brimming with confidence' and how everyone is '100% behind the gaffer'. I tell you what, when they start playing like they believe in him and when he starts showing us he's a manager capable of managing us then I'll stop criticising and stop thinking he's lost the dressing room. In the meantime I'll take this SWP article like all similar one's to this...with a huge pinch of salt. I hear Blackburn players were well behind Ince and were devastated to see him go....pity they didn't win any games 3-0 whilst he was there then hey!

 

[scall11]

I have a sneaking suspicion it's a PR move. I mean, that's what they're there for after all, so it's nothing to be suprised at. To be honest, I think it shows that we have a good PR team doing their job.

It is what we want to hear at the end of day, someone like SWP saying the right things and trying to show that there's something wrong, and we have to fix it. I'd be worried if there wasn't stories like this coming out. We've just dropped into the relegation zone, someone has to come out and say something regarding the situation.