Superbia Membership

[Skashion]

Ah, in the good old days when the loyalty point system had nothing to do with money and away tickets and travel up and down the country was free - and kids had RESPECT.

 

[Bill]

"The club will say they've only offered it to people who have proved their loyalty" so what's wrong with that?

we got those superbia things through the post, that would be 7500k to find, well you can imagine that we have no chance of paying that so sooner or later someone with dosh will take out seats, might take a while as we will keep going to games and rack up points anyway but if in years to come 10k superbias are sold thats 10000 proper blues missing from the crowd, that when you wont be able to tell the difference between eastlands and cold trafford.

Please tell me how 10000 will be sold.You are making out as if this superbia option is a bargain.Any City fan with a high number of points,all he or she has to do is go platinum and he/she will get tickets for every game they want.

we'll end up like the rags mate, sooner or later money will mean a seat, just like they have done.how much money do you think the rag fans have got, they travel "away" every week, it costs a fortune to travel up from essex every week, this after season tickets far dearer than ours, people up here just dont earn that amount of dosh. as we get more successful this will happen to us.

there are far more than 10000 plastics at OT.

 

[vitty]

if city deem it an opportunity to increase revenue by in effect selling loyalty points, they may well find it will backfire on them because once those loyal fans who have done their time find themselves being ousted for the glamour games, city will find those very same fans may well tell them to shove it..

That's the problenm with football clubs though...they're not like supermarkets. You can't change the place you go if you feel you're being ripped off.<br /><br />-- Sun Jul 03, 2011 11:58 pm --<br /><br />

we'll end up like the rags mate, sooner or later money will mean a seat, just like they have done.how much money do you think the rag fans have got, they travel "away" every week, it costs a fortune to travel up from essex every week, this after season tickets far dearer than ours, people up here just dont earn that amount of dosh. as we get more successful this will happen to us.

there are far more than 10000 plastics at OT.

With United, say we get 3,000 away tickets.

about 800 go to executive members (who pay about £5k a year)
about 500 go to loyalty pot members (there's 800 of them...they are people who didn't miss an away match for about 20 years but noone has been able to join for 15 years.

The other 1,700 go into a ballot, open only to season ticket holders in the automatic cup scheme (i.e those who pay an extra £350 a year on top of their £900 season tickets).

On average about 30,000 people apply for each league away game, so that means your chances are just short of 1 in 15.

In comparison, you lot have got it easy.

 

[mcfcliam]

if city deem it an opportunity to increase revenue by in effect selling loyalty points, they may well find it will backfire on them because once those loyal fans who have done their time find themselves being ousted for the glamour games, city will find those very same fans may well tell them to shove it..

That's the problenm with football clubs though...they're not like supermarkets. You can't change the place you go if you feel you're being ripped off.

Some of your lot did.

 

[alera]

The changes they have made with platinum and the cups schemes have massively affected the loyalty point dynamics.

I still know loads of people who have not bothered to do platinum or the cup schemes though.

The way people see it is that if you have under 3000 points its a waste of time the perception is people who could get tickets for the final will have just bought everything to maintain their chances of getting semi and final tickets.

 

[SWP's back]

It's not about finance, it's about demand.

Why do you think everything is about money? Firstly your rants about cup scheme and 'money up front', now this...it's not about money.

When we have x amount of people with high points then they'll be more people who qualify for games like United away, Chelsea away etc

If we have 10,000 people on 9,000 points then that'll be 10,000 people going for a United away ticket when we get a 3,000 allocation (we won't get 10k on that but it's an example).

Not everything is about money, you know...it's supply and demand, as Shady originally pointed out.

So many things wrong with this post that I don't even know where to begin.

City are a business whether you like it or not and ofcourse it is about money. That's why you just had to pay £50 for Platinum. What point is there in the club increasing demand without making money from it?? I can't even comprehend how you would think this?

Do you really think that the most popular away games will still go on sale at 9,000 points in 5 years time? Ofcourse they won't. The top threshold increases every season and has done since we moved to COMS. What makes you think that the club will suddenly keep the threshold the same when they haven't before and make an added logistical nightmare for themselves? It will not be a case that in ten years all 36,000 fans qualify for the first day of sales. That would make absolutely no business sense.

The whole point of "loyalty points" nowadays at City is to increase money through the doors. That's why the cup games suddenly received so many points last season after poor attendances. The exact same thing is happening with Gold/Platinum. City are increasing demand (and therefore money) through the reward of loyalty points. As soon as a ballot is introduced, that demand is lost as you know that going to Norwich away on a wet Tuesday in December won't get you up and list or increase your chances of the big aways would see an even chance for everyone.

The thresholds WILL increase just as they ALWAYS have and to think otherwise would be incredibly naieve and make no business sense to the club. I hate to be the one to point it out but in business, money is king.

Plastic post, makes me sick tbh

Business my arse mate, we're a football club, always are, always have been.

It is not a plastic post in any way. I don't say I agree with it but it is the way the club are heading whether anyone likes it or not. Whether it makes you sick is another point entirely. You said we were going down a ballot route and I simply explained why that is unlikely to happen.

As for us being a football club, not a business, unfortunately not but just thank god we are not one of the worst "businesses" out there and we can still watch a great team, in a great stadium at an affordable price and we are not in the same league as some of the London clubs or even our neighbours at ripping fans off.

 

[GStar]

Plastic post, makes me sick tbh

Business my arse mate, we're a football club, always are, always have been.

Its not a plastic post mate. Fotball isn't a charty, its business. Without making a profit there would be no transfers, no ground, no club.

No matter how glassy eyed people want to look at football, we're customers who like to believe in our own heads, that we're a little bit more.

 

[Ticket For Schalke]

A business (also known as enterprise or firm) is an organization engaged in the trade of goods, services, or both to consumers

 

[mcfcliam]

Plastic post, makes me sick tbh

Business my arse mate, we're a football club, always are, always have been.

Its not a plastic post mate. Fotball isn't a charty, its business. Without making a profit there would be no transfers, no ground, no club.

No matter how glassy eyed people want to look at football, we're customers who like to believe in our own heads, that we're a little bit more.

I'm a supporter.

Before we got taken over, no one would describe our own fans as 'customers'.

It's how it should be...let the club worry about the business side, we'll worry about buying season tickets and cheering on the team, like most SUPPORTERS should.

 

[GStar]

Plastic post, makes me sick tbh

Business my arse mate, we're a football club, always are, always have been.

Its not a plastic post mate. Fotball isn't a charty, its business. Without making a profit there would be no transfers, no ground, no club.

No matter how glassy eyed people want to look at football, we're customers who like to believe in our own heads, that we're a little bit more.

I'm a supporter.