Sustainability and our transfer plan

[Maurizio nicked my Porsche]

I think we are doing the right thing in selling NDJ.

Of course we would like more than £3.5m but with wages this will release about £9m over the last year of his deal. We perhaps can afford to let that go but any sensible business would suggest that this is the right thing to do.

 

[Falastur]

And let my son be exposed to the dark side of the family?

Already got him singing the 2 unlimited YaYa song to his grandad....quality

Can you perhaps have her declared legally insane? That way she wouldn't get custody.

I've already had a go at that one and I'm still married

Then I feel for you, my friend. Your last hope is to snatch him in the middle of the night and never be heard from again. Except on match days, of course.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

There is only so long that we could sell the "project".

It has been fulfilled to a certain extent. We still have an amazing first XI that only superstars will be guaranteed a regular starting berth. They come at a price above £30m, a price we are not currently willing to pay.

Therefore we are left with acquiring squad players, such as Sinclair and Rodwell, who will be happy with a bit part role for a while. These players will be rotated in and out if the club at a quicker rate if they don't develop into better players, worthy of being a regular in our first team.

 

[sir baconface]

Good OP. I for one am fairly relaxed about the business plan. We've got a great, relatively young squad now and don't need to be splashing £100m on superstars every transfer window. I am happy to see more modest investment in developing players who will fight for a place and hopefully succeed. If they don't they should still have a sell-on value.

It's been painful unravelling the mess and waste of Bridge, Adebayor, RSC and other mistakes. Seems like the old business model was to buy for a pound and sell for a penny. If we have learned one thing (I hope) it is to pay more attention to players' mental attributes. With a couple of exceptions the typical City player of today is both talented and ultra-professional.

With NDJ I presume the club made a pragmatic decision not to offer a 4 or 5-year contract at a reported £5m a year. These are the sort of decisions we may have to get used to. Like others, though, I am struggling to understand why he was only worth £3.5m.

 

[Stoned Rose]

Several blindingly obvious and important points here:

1. The massive spending cant and doesnt need to go on. We have an excellent squad already and any players who could improve the 1st 11 would cost silly money.Those clubs who are spending silly money (Chelsea and PSG spring to mind) are running the very real risk of falling foul of FFP and paying the heftiest of prices. Our owners, and I hope us as fans, dont want that to happen to MCFC.

2. We've offloaded all the 'deadwood' (even if one or two are seeing out their last year on loan deals). These players are not just deadwood in the playing/contributing sense but also in the financial sense. They cost the club millions but give nothing back. That is clearly not financially shrewd and getting rid of those players was a necessity from an FFP perspective. Not very exciting, but essential and unavoidable.

3. Our owners are incredibly successful businessmen and they've forgotten more about business and money than the lot of us combined will ever know. It would be best for us to let them manage the club as they see fit. They havent done a bad job so far lets be fair.

4. Mancini and his (football) staff are excellent and know what they're doing. Mancini has won titles in Italy and took us to our 1st title in 44 years. Again, we should trust them to do whats right for MCFC.

5. Re NDJ - if he wanted to go, he wanted to go. You cant keep a player who doesn't want to be here. I love NDJ and will miss him, but if I'm honest he wasn't being used that often and his role was quite 'confined' and limited. Yes the fee is low, but we've saved on his wages by offloading him (see point 2) and haven't sold him to a premiership rival. It was either have that or have him (mostly) on the bench and playing bit parts, pay his wages and then let him leave for absolutely nothing next summer. Again, not business savvy.

We have to 'get over it' and accept that all this 'blowing people away' malarky is over. We should also see what tomorrow brings and then analyse exactly what we have and where we are.

 

[MSP]

Sustainability is normal thing to expect but I think those thoughts came too early if plan is to be the top, top club. To be that City need CL success and I'm not sure this team is good enough to make it in both Premier League and CL.

FFPR probably made it but if it was a plan before FFPR then it's little bit too early to stop investing in team.

 

[Danielmanc]

Several blindingly obvious and important points here:

1. The massive spending cant and doesnt need to go on. We have an excellent squad already and any players who could improve the 1st 11 would cost silly money.Those clubs who are spending silly money (Chelsea and PSG spring to mind) are running the very real risk of falling foul of FFP and paying the heftiest of prices. Our owners, and I hope us as fans, dont want that to happen to MCFC.

2. We've offloaded all the 'deadwood' (even if one or two are seeing out their last year on loan deals). These players are not just deadwood in the playing/contributing sense but also in the financial sense. They cost the club millions but give nothing back. That is clearly not financially shrewd and getting rid of those players was a necessity from an FFP perspective. Not very exciting, but essential and unavoidable.

3. Our owners are incredibly successful businessmen and they've forgotten more about business and money than the lot of us combined will ever know. It would be best for us to let them manage the club as they see fit. They havent done a bad job so far lets be fair.

4. Mancini and his (football) staff are excellent and know what they're doing. Mancini has won titles in Italy and took us to our 1st title in 44 years. Again, we should trust them to do whats right for MCFC.

5. Re NDJ - if he wanted to go, he wanted to go. You cant keep a player who doesn't want to be here. I love NDJ and will miss him, but if I'm honest he wasn't being used that often and his role was quite 'confined' and limited. Yes the fee is low, but we've saved on his wages by offloading him (see point 2) and haven't sold him to a premiership rival. It was either have that or have him (mostly) on the bench and playing bit parts, pay his wages and then let him leave for absolutely nothing next summer. Again, not business savvy.

We have to 'get over it' and accept that all this 'blowing people away' malarky is over. We should also see what tomorrow brings and then analyse exactly what we have and where we are.

Sense and reason breaks out in this post

 

[Chi-town blues]

SO how is Chelsea and PSG balancing their book? any idea?

 

[MSP]

SO how is Chelsea and PSG balancing their book? any idea?

Chelsea have fairly bigger income than City, they are third biggest English club globally and many reports are saying they'll meet FFPR stuff.

Don't have idea how PSG is going to do it tbh.

 

[VOOMER]

Read a post on here last night and it's beginning to sink in.

Our owners spent 10 years' money in 4 years because of FFPR coming in. Gary Cook persuaded them to do this arguing, correctly, that we needed to get into the CL and quick.

Now that has been achieved the big spending stops. The business model buzzword is sustainability... to be achieved long term with the odd affordable signing. This will be aided in the long term by the academy.

We are no longer following the Chelsea model.

That's why I believe that we brought in Hargreaves and Pizarro....the mega signings will be one per season once we have shifted the deadwood.

Players like RSC and Savic are still here and, if they go tomorrow, its too late for this window.

It hasn't been a fuck up. It's a business plan. We've forked out more money keeping Mancini and Kompany and hopefully Silva than most clubs have on new signings.

It may or may not work but I think the penny has dropped for me. The blow them out of the water days have gone for the forseeable future. If I had known I'd have enjoyed it even more then.

Like most businesses...there is a plan. Just not as exciting as it has been.

I don't think there is a £40 million signing waiting to be unveiled tomorrow. Sorry....I hope I'm wrong.

P.S. I know this isn't as exciting as seeing DDR in the chippy :-)

No cob, its a fuck up. Football isn't a business is a distraction, even the very top, clubs madrid , barca the rags , etc, make less actuall profit in a year than the Tesco mega store in Burnage and thats a fact. We are talking about brand awareness and association with that brand. Our owner wants to nuture and develope City into an international sporting powerhouse the best in its field. But lets not mistake City, or any other club for some money making machine, because their isn't a team on the planet that turns in what would be a significant profit. Its all about the prestige, in relation to turnover and profit, top football teams, punch way about their weight when it comes to public awareness, because their's often no rational to the level of support certain fans give their clubs. The plan for this summer is floored. We should have acted quick and in a ruthless manner for Silva, DDR and Hazard. Instead, we face stronger opposition domestically, with no marked improvement to the squad, Garcia is better than people think and Rodwell resonable, but its not whats needed to push for the CL, so we have hamstrung ourselfs for a whole season, because someone doesn't understand what a football club is.