Swansea (a) Post Match Thread

[OB1]

I don't mean one player in and one player out. I think the kind of game and contribution that GazBaz made has not been replicated by Fernandinho. I think they are quite dissimilar players. I don't think we replaced GazBaz and de Jong with like for like, and we have certainly missed de Jong's personality in the changing room.

Dinho certainly isn't a GB clone but he took his place in the team and the squad. Gaz sure as shit was not going to take Yaya's place in the team.

Garcia took De Jong's place and it is a shame that change occured.

 

[Neville Kneville]

Right!

I think it's a great pity Fernandinho has been required to do that job. It has stunted his growth as a Premier League player imo. He's still been excellent but imo he would have been even better if he'd been trusted more as an all round centre mid. I think he's ohe of the best around.

 

[Dave Ewing's Back 'eader]

I think it's a great pity Fernandinho has been required to do that job. It has stunted his growth as a Premier League player imo. He's still been excellent but imo he would have been even better if he'd been trusted more as an all round centre mid. I think he's ohe of the best around.

This is Fernandinho's strength, and he has had too much put on his plate with Fernando misfiring early on and Yaya taking early retirement.

 

[Dribble]

1. I've already explained that we could ALL see what the weaknesses were with Pellegrini from the word go, but whilst we were busy winning the league and scoring a zillion goals in the process, it was perfectly reasonable to back him as the prowess going forward was more than compensating for any defensive shortcomings (QED), and the question of his adaptability wasn't an issue as it wasn't being tested at that stage. If you can claim that you foresaw in advance that he wouldn't adapt when those questions were eventually asked, then clearly you are a visionary beyond compare and I wish you were employed by the board.

Lol You love all this supernatural soothsaying hocus pocus crap don't ya! :-)

Foresight
ˈfɔːsʌɪt/
noun
noun: foresight; plural noun: foresights
1.
the ability to predict what will happen or be needed in the future.
"he had the foresight to check that his escape route was clear"
2.
Care or provision for the future; provident care; prudence. 3. the act or power of foreseeing; prevision; prescience. 4. an act of looking forward

Dead simple mate, I lived in hope up until yesterday that Pellegrini would wake up and sniff the coffee, but respect to the man, he went out as he came in with his 442. All it takes is the basic human ability of foresight, in other words forward planning. Do you use rune stones to predict if night will follow day? I don't, I use chance and probability, just like anyone who is planning anything does. Poor you if you've been paying psychics to predict when your next bus is due instead of looking at the timetable! Bwahahaha :)

The notion that other managers spotted Pellegrini's weaknesses from the start, but were "too wary to act on it" has to be a wind up on your part, surely?!

Again, look back at our early matches, its there as plain as day that most Prem teams were massing their ranks on their 18 yard line and if they attacked us it was with extreme caution. But slowly one by one they all started to attack us more sensing we were defensively weaker than during Mancini's time. All the same, the bookies still had the 'foresight' to install us as favourites as they still hedged that our vastly superior squad would still probably win the league.

Once he started failing the tests others were setting him though on a repeat basis and it was clear that he wasn't going to change tack, he should have been sacked IMO. For me that was around 16 months ago after the Liverpool/Burnley/Barca triple embarrassment.

This is where we again differ as I still held faith that based on what I previously knew of Pellegrini that he would wake up, sniff the coffee and change. He didn't! You predicted he wouldn't and wanted him sacked (which I never have) so who's the soothsayer and foresight wizard now eh? :-)

IOh, and I did chuckle at the self defeating argument that we should cut the greatest manager in the world plenty of slack next season. Doesn't need it does he, if he's got the greatest squad?!!!

I carried on cutting Pellegrini slack until yesterday, you by your own admission stopped 18 months ago. I cut Sven slack, Hughes slack, Mancini slack and Pellegrini so why wouldn't I cut Pep any slack? Pearce and Ball are the only two City managers I've ever wanted sacked as I'm not the knee jerk type unlike you who seems to flip flop all over the place with the ever changing winds.

I don't know if the posters who levelled abuse at you at the time were banned or were responsible for having threads pulled, as I am a) not one of those posters (ie no-one has ever admonished me for anything on here), and b) not a mod. Did you report them? What was the mods response?

As advised I did twice and never received a response once. Another bit of foresight I had was to predict based on probability that the chasm that was allowed to grow wider on BM would never be bridged even with Pellegrini leaving and Pep coming. I suppose you never had the foresight to see that one either did you?

As for your last point, after this lame response of yours, I've decided you're not worth my bother. Soz, go stalk someone else :-)

 

[lastmanback]

I think it's a great pity Fernandinho has been required to do that job. It has stunted his growth as a Premier League player imo. He's still been excellent but imo he would have been even better if he'd been trusted more as an all round centre mid. I think he's ohe of the best around.

Wouldn't be surprised if pep plays him at center half.

 

[Neville Kneville]

Wouldn't be surprised if pep plays him at center half.

Nor me.

But there's about 10 other players who also fall into that catagory ;)

 

[Dribble]

Given you have constantly insisted Pellegrini has had the best squad in the league by some distance and has hugely underachieved, why the complete about turn and dumbing down of expectations for a manager who is clearly a step up from Pellegrini and will no doubt benefit from a huge summer of spending?

Unlike last night, i dont need a 1000 word answer going off on a tangent accusing the world of bullying you and how you knew after the first game he was crap and how we won what we did with Mancini's squad etc, just a straight up answer to a straight up question?

Or is it a case that a draw here and a defeat there was never a luxury you where ever going to afford Pellegrini for reasons known to yourself?

Look dude, I feel for you, I really do. Pellegrini has gone, but yet you still feel the need to carry on his fight even though the race has been run. Give it up fella and stop trying to reform your gang and fight your mate's fights.

We disagreed three years ago when your vision was clouded and we continue to disagree now even though the fog has lifted and everyone can see clearly. You've proved one thing though, that the bitterness you helped to create with the orchestrated attacks you made on Manchester City fans whose only crime was to be grateful to Mancini, was never going to go away and your continued bitter bile over the manager you loved will continue to tear you apart until you accept that he's gone, probably never to return.

You've achieved your life's ambition of becoming a pseudo PCSO, so be happy with that and leave the rest of us to the football side of things mate. You know it makes sense fella.........

 

[Dribble]

Think that is a couple of times you have used that phrase. Totally disingenuous imo. I think you know full well that supporters didn't turn against Pellegrini merely because of "a draw here and a defeat there."

Leave him to it mate. He's chatting utter shite and most people know it even if they're not overtly saying it. Let him show me where I've EVER said Pellegrini was a crap manager or used a derogatory term to describe him.

All I said after his first match against Newcastle was that I didn't like the reckless style of football I'd just witnessed and could see problems ahead if we continued to play like that. It was just a common sense observation, now all of a sudden I'm a soothsayer who uses a crystal ball ffs. Pathetic.

 

[blueinsa]

Look dude, I feel for you, I really do. Pellegrini has gone, but yet you still feel the need to carry on his fight even though the race has been run. Give it up fella and stop trying to reform your gang and fight your mate's fights.

We disagreed three years ago when your vision was clouded and we continue to disagree now even though the fog has lifted and everyone can see clearly. You've proved one thing though, that the bitterness you helped to create with the orchestrated attacks you made on Manchester City fans whose only crime was to be grateful to Mancini, was never going to go away and your continued bitter bile over the manager you loved will continue to tear you apart until you accept that he's gone, probably never to return.

You've achieved your life's ambition of becoming a pseudo PCSO, so be happy with that and leave the rest of us to the football side of things mate. You know it makes sense fella.........

So no answer then apart from the usual bluster.

 

[Exeter Blue I am here]

Lol You love all this supernatural soothsaying hocus pocus crap don't ya! :-)

Foresight
ˈfɔːsʌɪt/
noun
noun: foresight; plural noun: foresights
1.
the ability to predict what will happen or be needed in the future.
"he had the foresight to check that his escape route was clear"
2.
Care or provision for the future; provident care; prudence. 3. the act or power of foreseeing; prevision; prescience. 4. an act of looking forward

Dead simple mate, I lived in hope up until yesterday that Pellegrini would wake up and sniff the coffee, but respect to the man, he went out as he came in with his 442. All it takes is the basic human ability of foresight, in other words forward planning. Do you use rune stones to predict if night will follow day? I don't, I use chance and probability, just like anyone who is planning anything does. Poor you if you've been paying psychics to predict when your next bus is due instead of looking at the timetable! Bwahahaha :)



Again, look back at our early matches, its there as plain as day that most Prem teams were massing their ranks on their 18 yard line and if they attacked us it was with extreme caution. But slowly one by one they all started to attack us more sensing we were defensively weaker than during Mancini's time. All the same, the bookies still had the 'foresight' to install us as favourites as they still hedged that our vastly superior squad would still probably win the league.



This is where we again differ as I still held faith that based on what I previously knew of Pellegrini that he would wake up, sniff the coffee and change. He didn't! You predicted he wouldn't and wanted him sacked (which I never have) so who's the soothsayer and foresight wizard now eh? :-)


I carried on cutting Pellegrini slack until yesterday, you by your own admission stopped 18 months ago. I cut Sven slack, Hughes slack, Mancini slack and Pellegrini so why wouldn't I cut Pep any slack? Pearce and Ball are the only two City managers I've ever wanted sacked as I'm not the knee jerk type unlike you who seems to flip flop all over the place with the ever changing winds.



As advised I did twice and never received a response once. Another bit of foresight I had was to predict based on probability that the chasm that was allowed to grow wider on BM would never be bridged even with Pellegrini leaving and Pep coming. I suppose you never had the foresight to see that one either did you?

As for your last point, after this lame response of yours, I've decided you're not worth my bother. Soz, go stalk someone else :-)

I genuinely don't know what to make of that lot. It must have taken you a long time is about the best I can offer. Dribble by name.......?