Swansea (H) first game of the season to be moved?

mcfcliam said:
lee-mcfc said:
mcfcliam said:
Productive as always, Lee. *rolls eyes*

SWP, fair does, Sky has done some good e.g. TV money into clubs, broadcasting the best players in the league, advertisement...

They have also done some fucking shite things e.g. taking the piss with fixture changes, making away fans travel obscene distances on a Monday nights, Sunday afternoons...

I wouldn't mind Monday night games and Sunday afternoon games as long as we were playing a local side, who's fans wouldn't find it difficult to get there.

Why do you think we saw 700 West Ham fans on a Sunday afternoon? 'Cos it's hard on a Sunday, if it was a Saturday, we'd have seen the full 2,800...many examples in regards to this.

so you've never posted a random popcorn picture in a random thread hmm
someone woke up on the wrong side of the bed this morning!

Joining in with the Sky discussion?

Anything in regards to my post?

Pigeonho said:
mcfcliam said:
Productive as always, Lee. *rolls eyes*

SWP, fair does, Sky has done some good e.g. TV money into clubs, broadcasting the best players in the league, advertisement...

They have also done some fucking shite things e.g. taking the piss with fixture changes, making away fans travel obscene distances on a Monday nights, Sunday afternoons...

I wouldn't mind Monday night and Sunday afternoon games as long as we were playing a local side, who's fans wouldn't find it difficult to get there.

Why do you think we saw 700 West Ham fans on a Sunday afternoon? 'Cos it's hard on a Sunday, if it was a Saturday, we'd have seen the full 2,800...many examples in regards to this.
But all these things link together, because the fixture changes are made, in the main, so that the advertisement can be made, and advertisement = money, and that money is what pays the players' wages. You can't have one without the other. I remember watching first division matches at shit stadiums, shit players and shit everything else. It's not possible to describe how better it is now, and if the odd Sunday/Monday match is what makes that happen, it's a tiny sacrifice to make.

Fair point but you can see where I'm coming from when I mentioned away fans travelling obscene distances just so Sky can make a few quid?
Wigan at home on a Sunday, fair enough, Newcastle at home on a Sunday, a bit silly.

It's the fans what suffer at the end of the day.



Well i get what you are kind of saying, with the 'super sunday' programme. Arsenal v scum, chelsea v us, arse v us, liverpool v top london teams. Fans hiking up and down the country on a sunday who rely on public transport are fucked!!
 
glen quagmire said:
mcfcliam said:
lee-mcfc said:
so you've never posted a random popcorn picture in a random thread hmm
someone woke up on the wrong side of the bed this morning!

Joining in with the Sky discussion?

Anything in regards to my post?

Pigeonho said:
But all these things link together, because the fixture changes are made, in the main, so that the advertisement can be made, and advertisement = money, and that money is what pays the players' wages. You can't have one without the other. I remember watching first division matches at shit stadiums, shit players and shit everything else. It's not possible to describe how better it is now, and if the odd Sunday/Monday match is what makes that happen, it's a tiny sacrifice to make.

Fair point but you can see where I'm coming from when I mentioned away fans travelling obscene distances just so Sky can make a few quid?
Wigan at home on a Sunday, fair enough, Newcastle at home on a Sunday, a bit silly.

It's the fans what suffer at the end of the day.



Well i get what you are kind of saying, with the 'super sunday' programme. Arsenal v scum, chelsea v us, arse v us, liverpool v top london teams. Fans hiking up and down the country on a sunday who rely on public transport are fucked!!

Because in an amazing turn up for the books Wigan v Sunderland doesnt get as many viewers as the other mentioned games
 
West Ham's owners never turned up because their away form was that bad, and the local sides only bring handful on sat games anyway, bar dippers and scum but they bring 3000 whatever day. Sky need to make their moneys worth, cannot put all games on a sat as im sure they would love to, but because they want to get the most of the deal they drag it out, and for us sky viewers i enjoy a monday night game usually.
 
Pigeonho said:
mcfcliam said:
Productive as always, Lee. *rolls eyes*

SWP, fair does, Sky has done some good e.g. TV money into clubs, broadcasting the best players in the league, advertisement...

They have also done some fucking shite things e.g. taking the piss with fixture changes, making away fans travel obscene distances on a Monday nights, Sunday afternoons...

I wouldn't mind Monday night and Sunday afternoon games as long as we were playing a local side, who's fans wouldn't find it difficult to get there.

Why do you think we saw 700 West Ham fans on a Sunday afternoon? 'Cos it's hard on a Sunday, if it was a Saturday, we'd have seen the full 2,800...many examples in regards to this.
But all these things link together, because the fixture changes are made, in the main, so that the advertisement can be made, and advertisement = money, and that money is what pays the players' wages. You can't have one without the other. I remember watching first division matches at shit stadiums, shit players and shit everything else. It's not possible to describe how better it is now, and if the odd Sunday/Monday match is what makes that happen, it's a tiny sacrifice to make.

Fair play Pidge. Couldn't have put it better myself.

I do agree fixture changes are shite and am pissed off with Monday nights as they make me wait all weekend (though Monday morning work isn't as bad as I know I have a game to look forward to), but for me atleast, it is a sacrifice worth making. Plus I am also happy for fans less fortunate than me (in terms of distance and funding) that can now watch every City match live, be it on Sky or using the net to watch a Sky (foreign broadcast) stream.

I remember the days of being thrilled that my Dad bought a tv with teletext back in lancaster so that I could watch it when City were away to see if we had scored and the like. Kids don't know they are born nowadays.
 
I think the "no televised Saturday 3PM games" rule needs abolishing tbh.

There are enough ways to watch those games anyway. Slam 'em all on Sky interactive, with more money dripping down the leagues, let's stop messing about. Maybe have a game on a Sunday at a push.

It was initially introduced to stop people going down the pub instead of the match, but people can do that now anyway, so it's not gonna change anything. Those that go to games go because they want to.

Waits for someone to point out a gaping hole in my logic.
 
SWP's back said:
Pigeonho said:
mcfcliam said:
Productive as always, Lee. *rolls eyes*

SWP, fair does, Sky has done some good e.g. TV money into clubs, broadcasting the best players in the league, advertisement...

They have also done some fucking shite things e.g. taking the piss with fixture changes, making away fans travel obscene distances on a Monday nights, Sunday afternoons...

I wouldn't mind Monday night and Sunday afternoon games as long as we were playing a local side, who's fans wouldn't find it difficult to get there.

Why do you think we saw 700 West Ham fans on a Sunday afternoon? 'Cos it's hard on a Sunday, if it was a Saturday, we'd have seen the full 2,800...many examples in regards to this.
But all these things link together, because the fixture changes are made, in the main, so that the advertisement can be made, and advertisement = money, and that money is what pays the players' wages. You can't have one without the other. I remember watching first division matches at shit stadiums, shit players and shit everything else. It's not possible to describe how better it is now, and if the odd Sunday/Monday match is what makes that happen, it's a tiny sacrifice to make.

Fair play Pidge. Couldn't have put it better myself.

I do agree fixture changes are shite and am pissed off with Monday nights as they make me wait all weekend (though Monday morning work isn't as bad as I know I have a game to look forward to), but for me atleast, it is a sacrifice worth making. Plus I am also happy for fans less fortunate than me (in terms of distance and funding) that can now watch every City match live, be it on Sky or using the net to watch a Sky (foreign broadcast) stream.

I remember the days of being thrilled that my Dad bought a tv with teletext back in lancaster so that I could watch it when City were away to see if we had scored and the like. Kids don't know they are born nowadays.

Teletext was always 10 minutes behind as well it seemed
 
SWP's back said:
Pigeonho said:
mcfcliam said:
Productive as always, Lee. *rolls eyes*

SWP, fair does, Sky has done some good e.g. TV money into clubs, broadcasting the best players in the league, advertisement...

They have also done some fucking shite things e.g. taking the piss with fixture changes, making away fans travel obscene distances on a Monday nights, Sunday afternoons...

I wouldn't mind Monday night and Sunday afternoon as long as we were playing a local side, who's fans wouldn't find it difficult to get there.

Why do you think we saw 700 West Ham fans on a Sunday afternoon? 'Cos it's hard on a Sunday, if it was a Saturday, we'd have seen the full 2,800...many examples in regards to this.
But all these things link together, because the fixture changes are made, in the main, so that the advertisement can be made, and advertisement = money, and that money is what pays the players' wages. You can't have one without the other. I remember watching first division matches at shit stadiums, shit players and shit everything else. It's not possible to describe how better it is now, and if the odd Sunday/Monday match is what makes that happen, it's a tiny sacrifice to make.

Fair play Pidge. Couldn't have put it better myself.

I do agree fixture changes are shite and am pissed off with Monday nights as they make me wait all weekend (though Monday morning work isn't as bad as I know I have a game to look forward to), but for me atleast, it is a sacrifice worth making. Plus I am also happy for fans less fortunate than me (in terms of distance and funding) that can now watch every City match live, be it on Sky or using the net to watch a Sky (foreign broadcast) stream.

I remember the days of being thrilled that my Dad bought a tv with teletext back in lancaster so that I could watch it when City were away to see if we had scored and the like. Kids don't know they are born nowadays.
Hahaha, back in the days before Sky, if I couldn't get to a match for whatever reason I relied on the 'it's a goal', or the 'oh no' on Piccadilly Radio! 9 times out of 10, the 'oh no' was City related and not in a good way! You're right about people not knowing realising how lucky they are, but i'm glad I have those memories of shit football, shit footballers and shit everything else. It makes you appreciate it more now, obviously, but that was 'real' football then.
 
Pigeonho said:
SWP's back said:
Pigeonho said:
But all these things link together, because the fixture changes are made, in the main, so that the advertisement can be made, and advertisement = money, and that money is what pays the players' wages. You can't have one without the other. I remember watching first division matches at shit stadiums, shit players and shit everything else. It's not possible to describe how better it is now, and if the odd Sunday/Monday match is what makes that happen, it's a tiny sacrifice to make.

Fair play Pidge. Couldn't have put it better myself.

I do agree fixture changes are shite and am pissed off with Monday nights as they make me wait all weekend (though Monday morning work isn't as bad as I know I have a game to look forward to), but for me atleast, it is a sacrifice worth making. Plus I am also happy for fans less fortunate than me (in terms of distance and funding) that can now watch every City match live, be it on Sky or using the net to watch a Sky (foreign broadcast) stream.

I remember the days of being thrilled that my Dad bought a tv with teletext back in lancaster so that I could watch it when City were away to see if we had scored and the like. Kids don't know they are born nowadays.
Hahaha, back in the days before Sky, if I couldn't get to a match for whatever reason I relied on the 'it's a goal', or the 'oh no' on Piccadilly Radio! 9 times out of 10, the 'oh no' was City related and not in a good way! You're right about people not knowing realising how lucky they are, but i'm glad I have those memories of shit football, shit footballers and shit everything else. It makes you appreciate it more now, obviously, but that was 'real' football then.

You lucky bastard having picadilly! Where I was couldn't pick up any Greater Manchester radio stations so I was screwed.
 
Really annoyed about how long they've taken to confirm this one. Needless to say, the Hotel has just been booked (still some great deals out there, Exiles) and now I'm looking at travel.
 
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