Swings and Roundabouts -Decisions for and Against

Manchester33 said:
Because it makes winning easier - which means we will win more trophies, which will make us fans happy.
Pretty much, yeah. But I'd replace the word ****, with smart or wise. If we were smarter we'd be the team getting all the decisions, not giving stupid free kicks away with 10 mins to go when we're 2-1 down.
No, I think they give us all the decisions they see, or are aware of, but we could give them a helping hand pointing out certain fouls etc.
City participate in both FA and UEFA competitions, if it's their issue it's our issue.

I do get what you're saying overall, I'm just playing devil's advocate to some extent.

I think you'd prefer City to stay as we are, winning a handful of domestic trophies in an honest manner.

I'd prefer us to win everything, at almost any cost. IMO we get pelted by the majority of non-city media and fans regardless. Barcelona cheat there way to the Champions League final on a regular basis, but no-one will remember that in 50 years, they'll just look at how good Messi and co were to win 3/4 European cups and several leagues. When we won the league in 13/14, everyone remembers the heroic swing in fortunes between us and Liverpool, no-body talks about Dzeko rolling round, refusing to get of the pitch for 5 mins in added time at Goodison Park. It was smart, it gave us a breather and ran the clock down, I'm very happy he did it and it got us over the line in the league.

It's not a black and white scale though, Diving for penalties, or purposely winding opposition players up to the point they kick you and get sent off is different to tactically time wasting etc - we barely do any of it and it shows in our recent European record.
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For starters, trying to add weight to your argument by inventing things is just fucking stupid.

I want City to win everything and more but would I want us to resort to cheating, unhanded methods like some of the other big clubs use to get us there - not a fucking hope in hell.

Moments like the "Agueroooooo" one mean more to us than anyone could possibly ever imagine simply because we know we won that title, despite the Scum cunts diving, cheating and getting away with hacking people down without being penalised. We won it fairly and if anything in the face of adversity with the decisions that went against us between the 1-6 and February, that made it all the sweeter and I wouldn't change it for the world.

By cheating all you're doing is cheating yourself out of moments in life like that, its not worth it. Win fairly and it means sooo much more.
 
jimharri said:
Kelechi with a perfectly good goal chalked off today. Balanced by a penalty (possible red card) not given against Otamendi (I think) early on.
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Sums it up today.

I will just add though that any contact from a City player seems to bring the whistle straight to the refs mouth virtually every week whilst its not always the same the other way.
 
kelechis goal should have stood.....wasnt even close to being offside.....great finish as well....showed real confidence and a great run off he ball
 
Not seen a replay of the penalty incident they had at 0-0 but it looked like a definite one where I was sat, and possibly a straight red?
 
Why were Bournemouth complaining so much about our first goal? I assume they wanted offside but I'm almost certain the defender who slid in to try and stop the cross was still judged as being active even if he may have slid off the playing area.
 
lancs blue said:
Why were Bournemouth complaining so much about our first goal? I assume they wanted offside but I'm almost certain the defender who slid in to try and stop the cross was still judged as being active even if he may have slid off the playing area.
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Yeah think it's just how the rule works. Guess they were claiming he's off the pitch thus doesn't count so Sterling should be offside. Not sure how it works but think it counts as the defender being on the goal line which would make Sterling onside.

Either way, 1 decision against (non-important decision) & 1 decision against (big decision). We were more on the side of lucky than unlucky today for sure.
 
Ricster said:
Other fans have said it today that for every decision against your team, you get them back over the course of the season. Well I think it's now time to keep a log and see if this is true.

Clear cut decisions, no dodgy or blue tinted decisions, just clear cut.

If you want to post the incidents, I will do my best to keep this first page up to date whenever I'm online.

Scale of decision - 1 low 5 high.


10/08, West Brom (A) W 0-3 -
Incidents For

Incidents Against

16/08, Chelsea (H) W 3-0
Incidents For

Incidents Against

23/08, Everton (A) W 2-0
Incidents For

Incidents Against

29/08, Watford (H) W 2-0
Incidents For

Incidents Against

12/09, Crystal Palace (A) W 1-0
Incidents For

Incidents Against
3.Knee high challenge from Scott Dann resulting in Aguero injury. Received Yellow.
4. Nasri penalty claim

15/09, Juventus (H) L 2-1
Incidents For

Incidents Against

19/09, West Ham (H) L 2-1
Incidents For

Incidents Against
2. Offside resulting in goal for West Ham
5. Kolarov clearing the ball. Corner given when ball hadn't crosses line.
5. Sanga attacking by line. Ball incorrectly given out.

26/09, Spurs (A) L 2-1
Incidents for
2. De Bruyne offside for City's goal, Demichelis 2nd yellow

Incidents against
5. Kyle Walker offside.
5. Harry Kane offside.
1. Demichelis 1st yellow.

30/09, BMG (A) W 2-1
Incidents for
5. Foul on Stindl by Fernandinho. Penalty. Not given.

Incidents against
5. Raffael fouled by Otamendi. Player was already going down. Dive. No penalty.
5. Demichelis goal. Not allowed.

17/10, Bournmouth (H) W 5-1
Incidents for
5. Foul by Otamendi in the area. Penalty not given.

Incidents against
5. Kelechi scores. Wrongly chalked off for offside

25/10, United (A) D 0-0
Incidents For
4. Foul by Sterling in the area. Penalty not given.

Incidents against
2. Rojo stamp on Navas. No action.

31/10, Norwich (H) W 2-1

03/11, Sevilla (A) W 3-1
Incidents for,
2. Foul by Sagna, penalty not given.

Incidents against,
4. Foul on Fernandinho, penalty not given
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Can we update first post please
 
@Ricster can you update first post as this cheating is now at epidemic level and needs to be communicated clearly to the FA and the media. I'm not sure the best vehicle for this at the moment but we can't sit back and keep getting shafted by the referee syndicate.

Would be great if people can help to update this post.

I'm sick to death of this but we need to have a pour facts correct before launching our case
 
I was thinking of updatin the Arsenal penalty, Sunderland, Leicester and two Everton penalties but I think apart from those we've had a fair balance of decisions go for us and against us as the first page shows, and I think a lot of other blues saw that too hence why the thread died. Can add them and keep this going if you and others want
 
jimharri said:
That is painful, and annoying, to look at. Marginal decisions, you can understand. We might have benefitted from one yesterday. And if a similar one had gone against us, you couldn't really have a pop at the linesman. But that one? he's two bloody yards offside. And the lineman is dead in line, 15-20 yards away, with an unobstructed view.

*reaches for betablockers*
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The annoying thing from my viewing of the game was the co commentator (I'm sure it was that twat mills) , we had an attack stopped by the lino with our forward level minutes earlier and he stated the lino and ref were spot on. The Spurs offside was totally ignored even after the usual three or four replays and he just kept banging on about what a fantastic move it was!
 
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