Sycamore Gap tree felled | Man in his 60s also arrested

Can it not be grafted back onto the stump somehow and supported with scaffolding until it has ‘healed’? Forgive my ignorance if it’s not possible.
no it s dead, if limbs are cut.... i.e. branches, you leave about a foot. then you cut that afterwards as the tree re routes its nutrients. then seal the cut part with a type of beeswax. Thats if you are a tree hugger or care for their health.
 
A sycamore is a pretty hardy tree. It will already be thinking about pushing new shoots out, but unfortunately this is the worst time of the year to chop it down, as it naturally wants to go to sleep for the winter. It will not die, I hope, Come spring, if left alone, it will grow new shoots.
I hope it outlives the scrote that decided it was a good idea to attempt to kill it.
And given the chance, it will..
 
I’m glad I’m not the only one.

I saw the story, thought, oh that’s a shame, and moved on with my day.

Pop onto Bluemoon later and it’s the end of the world, a sign of a broken society. Not like the good old days (when trees like this had no legal protection and no one would ever catch the person who did it, and the son of whichever lord owned the land could cut down whatever trees he wanted)

No surprise the solution is to put the perpetrator behind bars for 10 years, that’s the solution to literally everything on here.

It’s a 200 year old tree by a 2,000 year old wall. Plant a new one, in 10 years it’ll be 7 or 8 metres tall and everyone can take their selfies with it again.

It’s not a national tragedy.
What a sad reflection on society you are...
 
I'll be honest, this thread reminds me why I'm leaning towards leaving Bluemoon. It is a constant stream of the unhappy little news stories that don't mean shit, but people love to moan and moralise about. Let's have another thousand pointless arguments, and hear someone saying 'society is imploding' every single day.

So what? Boards like this, and social media, attract people with time on their hands. We come to exercise our ego. Plump it up, parade it around for a bit. Achieves nothing

I mean, compared to a year ago, I've noticed every single supermarket has a security guard every single minute they are open. They can wander around the store and check the cameras on their phones. Stores now have gates where you have to enter through. Gates through which you leave. Often they only open if you scan your receipt. Every till has multiple cameras trained on you. AI and face recognition is very widely used. They can tell who you are and follow every single person in the store. The systems can often guess when people are likely to shoplift or conceal goods.

It feels like we're being herded like cattle. We know that shoplifting levels are blamed on the financial crisis. Amazing how the shops profiteered and manipulated people by manufacturing rumours and the perception of essentials being in short supply through lockdown. And then, ohh, prices have risen 20%, but it's the manufacturers, not us. Amazing how prices of stuff in short supply due to covid etc went up, then started to come down, but now.. none of them have. The shops will keep the prices high, thanks.

Still, this big uplift in shoplifting is astonishing. I mean, it's an astonishing thing that it's been made into a huge news story. Because the 30% uplift year on year sounds impressive. But really, it just means we're almost back to pre-lockdown levels. Shoplifting levels, in other words, are same as they've always been. And the latest figures seem to miss the last 6-9 months when the security has really been beefed up.

The shops didn't do that because levels were historically high. They did it, because the technology is good value for them. Not only does it help prevent shoplifting, it gives them the other thing they want apart from money in the till. They want DATA. They want to track people so they can study them. Seriously. Same as club cards. Now you can see how different people move around the store, what they look at, what they touch. That is what a lot of this is about. This stuff will train AI's. This stuff can be translated to profit in two ways. One, getting higher prices and bigger spends out of people in the shop. Two, selling their AI's, the models of human behaviour. It's a boon time to be a big retailer. It really is. They are just spinning the story that all this stuff is there because of this shoplifting 'epidemic'. Fucking lol!

People are reet succeptible to estimating the reality of the world through the number of news stories they are confronted with. And that is what's gone up - the number of stories. Shoplifting itself is very much at a normal level, year on year. And as any one in the biz knows, no one talks about shoplifting. It's shrinkage, which includes all the stuff 'lost' otherwise. We also know every bit as much walks out the back of the store, or the warehouse, as out the front door.

What's happening is that the big stores are getting an advantage over all other retailers. They can afford this expensive high tech stuff, and the gates, etc. It's the smaller stores who will now be targets for shoplifters. That suits the supermarkets just fine, because their idea of the future is that there won't be any stores not run by the 4 chains.
YAWN...
 
All this outrage, outcry and general wailing about one single tree just because it happens to be "iconic" and popular with the Facebook morons and Instatwats.

It's a pity they can't express the same level of concern for the mass destruction of habitats, loss of biodiversity and degradation of all ecosystems thats happening on an unprecedented scale across the UK.
Is your son OK?
 
I'd hazard a guess that the majority of people wailing about this tree all over Facebook, Twatter and Instatwat are the same people who have only recently started venturing out into the countryside in their masses after seeing pics on those social media platforms.

The same people who have no real love, respect or appreciation for the places they feel compelled to go to take their selfies, before then leaving it looking like this..

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I’d hazard a guess that you would be wrong. Millions know that scene. Millions have taken the path along Hadrian’s wall. Millions have real concern about the ecological damage done to our beautiful country. That we have a government that has allowed us to fall behind on our environmental commitments whilst allowing our rivers and seas be turned into open sewers is a matter for our populace to resolve once and for all next year.
 
I've no idea if any tree surgeons post here, but a few online are saying a 16 year old kid couldn't have just ambled along and cut down such a tree with a bog standard chainsaw. They say it would need expertise and a heavy duty chainsaw. The tree also appears to have been marked before being cut, again something a professional would do. The plot thickens.

Also those moaning about the attention this has attracted and people discussing it here. It's a discussion forum, if nobody discussed anything it wouldn't be here.
 
As interesting as that all was, other than the chopped down tree's wood could be used to make paper for a till roll, I'm not really sure it has anything to do with a famous tree being cut down.
It has fuck all to do with it.
Summerbuzz is usually a good poster though so maybe he will link his post to this subject matter in a way that escapes me at present.
 

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