Syria | Assad flees to Moscow as rebels capture Damascus

[gordondaviesmoustache]

I can see where you're coming from, but to speak up for Rose she'd probably be less likely to have you murdered.

That’s a risk I’d be willing to take.

 

[Ducado]

If anything Syria will go one of two ways, it'll become Taliban-esque militaristic Islamic led as per Afghanistan or it'll indeed become a more moderate Islamic country. Both would be preferable for Israel compared to before.

We'll probably now see either Syria get carved up or there will be continued war with the western backed Kurdish forces in the east... Where there are also many oil fields.

There is going to be some dust to settle, but between Turkey and the Gulf States there is enough money and will to get the country functioning again, I envisage a kind of federal set up with regions like the Kurdish areas gaining greater autonomy and the Alawite heartlands, there will be little Iranian influence they shot themselves in the foot in enabling Assad, no idea what will happen to the two Russian bases, but I can't imagine any new Syrian Government wanting them there after what they did in the war

One of the beefs the Turks have with the Israelis is the Israeli backing of several Kurdish groups, I can imagine that might be stopping soon, because I doubt they would want to go to war with the Turks, especially now they will be right at their border

All in all I think it's a positive development, hopefully Syria starts to function as a modern state the Turks acting as sword of Damocles over the Israelis heads thus keeping them in check, Iranian and Russian influence curtailed

 

[Ducado]

Syria = Jihadists good

Afghanistan = Jihadists bad

I'm confused????

Assad was a ****. Is he being replaced by bigger cunts that are going to destabilise the country like Iraq whilst the yanks 'protect' the oil.

Meanwhile the Israeli fascist has taken over Syrian land protected by the UN and that's not a story.

This world is fucked up.

What's right or wrong anymore?

No wonder people go mad trying to comprehend everything that's going on the world.

There is not a great deal of Oil in Syria, but it's location is it's strength, who knows what replaces him but from what I can see it's mainly Turkish and Qutarie backed groups that are in the ascendancy, the Turkish back groups are Jihadists and are mainly secular

 

[Irwell]

There is not a great deal of Oil in Syria, but it's location is it's strength, who knows what replaces him but from what I can see it's mainly Turkish and Qutarie backed groups that are in the ascendancy, the Turkish back groups are Jihadists and are mainly secular

Those well known secular Jihadists...

 

[Ducado]

Those well known secular Jihadists...

Ha Ha it's been a long day! But we certainly are living in interesting times, Sria was the last country to be run by the Old Arab Baath party the last of the Soviet backed strongman military dictatorships

 

[East Level 2]

Yes, Erdogan is no angel, but I’ve never got a sense he (or Turkey more widely) is philosophically opposed to the existence of Israel (happy yo be corrected if I’m wrong).

I know Turkish-Israeli relations have worsened since October 7th but I don’t see that schism as permanent or irreparable. I think Isreal would certainly welcome a more dominant Turkey if it meant Iran’s influence waning. I think most of the middle east would.

I heard an interview with a former Jordanian minister a few months ago. He said most people in the area hate Israel, but they hate Iran even more.

 

[grunge]

Has anyone seen pictures of Assad in Russia?

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

I heard an interview with a former Jordanian minister a few months ago. He said most people in the area hate Israel, but they hate Iran even more.

Iran has the potential to be a truly great country. Huge amount of natural resources, beautiful landscapes, incredible history, well located and a relatively young population.

Shame it’s run by cunts.

 

[Gareth Barry Conlon]

I’ve dealt with loads of Turks over the years and they are (almost exclusively) great to do business with. They are good at listening to and following advice. Prompt payers too. Love working with them.

They are far more western looking than most Kurds and Lebanese I’ve dealt with. tbf, most of the Iranians I’ve dealt with are more western looking than either of those folk!

And they are in NATO. Not perfect, sure, but a damn sight better than Iran.

So I’m genuinely struggling to see how Turkey gaining more influence in the Middle East is a bad thing. Might bring some much needed stability and relative moderation.

And most likely enables us to keep out of it.

Yeah, but Erdoğan is a bit of a shit.

There is not a great deal of Oil in Syria, but it's location is it's strength, who knows what replaces him but from what I can see it's mainly Turkish and Qutarie backed groups that are in the ascendancy, the Turkish back groups are Jihadists and are mainly secular

2 Russian military bases. That's the thorny issue. Vlad won't want to fight form them so I guess he will quietly withdraw.

Has anyone seen pictures of Assad in Russia?

He's probably staying away from the windows.

 

[grunge]

He's probably staying away from the windows.

conspiracy time and Im probably just putting 2+2 together and getting 5. there was that plane that had an odd flight path the other day that some suggested may have been Assad's plane. there were rumours ( all very unconfirmed ) that the Russians had addicentally shot it down as it was heading towards there navel base.

Are Russia just saying he's there to get around the fact they killed him by mistake.