Teachers to strike?

[squirtyflower]

Still not said who these nasty b(w)ankers are.

No you're right mate I haven't
Mainly because, in hindsight, it was a stupid knee-jerk daily mail opinion masquerading as facts, written after a long day (it was last night) and several shots of vodka and a fucked up kitchen rebuild
Having said that they've fucked my shares in HSBC, barclays, bank of Scotland and lloyds tsb which has had a significant negative effect on my pension portfolio!

;-)

If you still have a share portfolio, pm me and I'll have a scan of it free of charge. Seeing as we are practically family after that hug at the semi.

I may well do!
However the caveat. The lad who used to sit next to me at Maine Road was a financial advisor and he was telling him I was buying shares in the scum
The idea being that if they kept winning I would make a bucket and if they didn't I'd be happy as
Anyway he said his dad would turn in his grave, he used to sit next to me but died at a game years before (a long story)
So he advised me to buy shares in Newcastle United and I did, what a fuckin mistake, I ended up giving them away

 

[Soulboy]

I simply must laugh at all the posters on here having a pop at the wages being paid to teachers... the outrageous sum of circa £30,000 a year for one of the most important jobs in a civilised society... and the same people are hankering after footbalers on £100,000 a WEEK, and don't see the irony in their stance!

Footballers deserve whatever they are paid, because we are in a free market.

But the same principle applies to teachers.

If the know-nowts on here think it's easy money and too many holidays, then get off your arses and dump that McDonalds cap, and get yourself a job as a teacher.

It's what the free market is all about.

 

[r.soleofsalford]

I simply must laugh at all the posters on here having a pop at the wages being paid to teachers... the outrageous sum of circa £30,000 a year for one of the most important jobs in a civilised society... and the same people are hankering after footbalers on £100,000 a WEEK, and don't see the irony in their stance!

Footballers deserve whatever they are paid, because we are in a free market.

But the same principle applies to teachers.

If the know-nowts on here think it's easy money and too many holidays, then get off your arses and dump that McDonalds cap, and get yourself a job as a teacher.

It's what the free market is all about.

just put my cap in the bin where do i sign up

 

[Ducado]

Francis Maude has been saying this will hurt working single mothers. Cecil Parkinson was unavailable for comment.

Seriously, you can't make pension promises to police officers, teachers, nurses and other civil servants then rip them up when you want to save money. And as for laying people off then asking for volunteers to do the work, they can kiss my arse.

Enjoy while it lasts Cameron. Your party will not see power again for a generation.

I do wonder why you think the Tories won't see power for a generation? They are going about it the right way, front loading the pain in order to reap the gains by the next election, even Ed Balls has realised that, they will get another two terms (on their own) teachers and other public sector workers going on strike for something the rest of the population has been denied (thanks to a huge tax grab by Brown) plays right in to their hands, they are almost inviting them to strike

 

[squirtyflower]

Francis Maude has been saying this will hurt working single mothers. Cecil Parkinson was unavailable for comment.

Seriously, you can't make pension promises to police officers, teachers, nurses and other civil servants then rip them up when you want to save money. And as for laying people off then asking for volunteers to do the work, they can kiss my arse.

Enjoy while it lasts Cameron. Your party will not see power again for a generation.

I do wonder why you think the Tories won't see power for a generation? They are going about it the right way, front loading the pain in order to reap the gains by the next election, even Ed Balls has realised that, they will get another two terms (on their own) teachers and other public sector workers going on strike for something the rest of the population has been denied (thanks to a huge tax grab by Brown) plays right in to their hands, they are almost inviting them to strike

very perceptive Ducado
i met a minister back in June last year and was privvy to him telling the group that basically went along the lines of they wanted a 'major confrontation' with the teachers

 

[Gelsons Dad]

I simply must laugh at all the posters on here having a pop at the wages being paid to teachers... the outrageous sum of circa £30,000 a year for one of the most important jobs in a civilised society... and the same people are hankering after footbalers on £100,000 a WEEK, and don't see the irony in their stance!

Footballers deserve whatever they are paid, because we are in a free market.

But the same principle applies to teachers.

If the know-nowts on here think it's easy money and too many holidays, then get off your arses and dump that McDonalds cap, and get yourself a job as a teacher.

It's what the free market is all about.

I don't see the average pay as outrageous, nor do I hanker after footballers.
The strike isn't about pay. It's about pension contributions.
However, UK teachers are well payed in global terms yet ofsted states 1/2 UK schools are failing their students. UK academic standards are average in global terms and poor with regard to poorer families.

Teachers pensions are untenable and disproportionate. The unions fear a more competitive market that realistic public sector pensions will bring which is why they are striking on principle. It's their right to do it and it's the publics right to show their feelings. In the end teachers in the public sector are employees of the state and therefore the tax payer and the tax payer's response to the strike will dictate the governments stance.

 

[Soulboy]

I simply must laugh at all the posters on here having a pop at the wages being paid to teachers... the outrageous sum of circa £30,000 a year for one of the most important jobs in a civilised society... and the same people are hankering after footbalers on £100,000 a WEEK, and don't see the irony in their stance!

Footballers deserve whatever they are paid, because we are in a free market.

But the same principle applies to teachers.

If the know-nowts on here think it's easy money and too many holidays, then get off your arses and dump that McDonalds cap, and get yourself a job as a teacher.

It's what the free market is all about.

I don't see the average pay as outrageous, nor do I hanker after footballers.
The strike isn't about pay. It's about pension contributions.
However, UK teachers are well payed in global terms yet ofsted states 1/2 UK schools are failing their students. UK academic standards are average in global terms and poor with regard to poorer families.

Teachers pensions are untenable and disproportionate. The unions fear a more competitive market that realistic public sector pensions will bring which is why they are striking on principle. It's their right to do it and it's the publics right to show their feelings. In the end teachers in the public sector are employees of the state and therefore the tax payer and the tax payer's response to the strike will dictate the governments stance.

Read the thread over the last few pages mate.

It's their wages that they are wittering on about.

Are you suggesting the teachers shouldn't stike... or be able to?

It's a democratic country, teachers are well within their rights to strike if they see their terms and conditions being disadvantaged.

As a right-wing free-market supporter you must agree that they are free to do this.

I agree that the outcome is pretty much nailed on... but that doesn't mean they should just lie on their backs and have their tummies tickled, does it?

 

[squirtyflower]

I simply must laugh at all the posters on here having a pop at the wages being paid to teachers... the outrageous sum of circa £30,000 a year for one of the most important jobs in a civilised society... and the same people are hankering after footbalers on £100,000 a WEEK, and don't see the irony in their stance!

Footballers deserve whatever they are paid, because we are in a free market.

But the same principle applies to teachers.

If the know-nowts on here think it's easy money and too many holidays, then get off your arses and dump that McDonalds cap, and get yourself a job as a teacher.

It's what the free market is all about.

I don't see the average pay as outrageous, nor do I hanker after footballers.
The strike isn't about pay. It's about pension contributions.
However, UK teachers are well payed in global terms yet ofsted states 1/2 UK schools are failing their students. UK academic standards are average in global terms and poor with regard to poorer families.

Teachers pensions are untenable and disproportionate. The unions fear a more competitive market that realistic public sector pensions will bring which is why they are striking on principle. It's their right to do it and it's the publics right to show their feelings. In the end teachers in the public sector are employees of the state and therefore the tax payer and the tax payer's response to the strike will dictate the governments stance.

no it isn't
teachers pension contributions have been steadily rising since 2007 and are set to continue for the next three years, they have accepted this without a word
they are striking because the government want to change the conditions of the pension:
when you can claim it, what percentage you'll get and what kind of salary it will be based on

but all of those without consultation

ps when you gonna get me that NUT flyer?

 

[Gelsons Dad]

I simply must laugh at all the posters on here having a pop at the wages being paid to teachers... the outrageous sum of circa £30,000 a year for one of the most important jobs in a civilised society... and the same people are hankering after footbalers on £100,000 a WEEK, and don't see the irony in their stance!

Footballers deserve whatever they are paid, because we are in a free market.

But the same principle applies to teachers.

If the know-nowts on here think it's easy money and too many holidays, then get off your arses and dump that McDonalds cap, and get yourself a job as a teacher.

It's what the free market is all about.

I don't see the average pay as outrageous, nor do I hanker after footballers.
The strike isn't about pay. It's about pension contributions.
However, UK teachers are well payed in global terms yet ofsted states 1/2 UK schools are failing their students. UK academic standards are average in global terms and poor with regard to poorer families.

Teachers pensions are untenable and disproportionate. The unions fear a more competitive market that realistic public sector pensions will bring which is why they are striking on principle. It's their right to do it and it's the publics right to show their feelings. In the end teachers in the public sector are employees of the state and therefore the tax payer and the tax payer's response to the strike will dictate the governments stance.

Read the thread over the last few pages mate.

It's their wages that they are wittering on about.

Are you suggesting the teachers shouldn't stike... or be able to?

It's a democratic country, teachers are well within their rights to strike if they see their terms and conditions being disadvantaged.

As a right-wing free-market supporter you must agree that they are free to do this.

I agree that the outcome is pretty much nailed on... but that doesn't mean they should just lie on their backs and have their tummies tickled, does it?

I've said a couple of time that they should strike. They need to strike to force a clear public response. This will set government policy and could also serve to add a little perspective.

 

[squirtyflower]

I don't think they should strike
Their are more effective ways of causing maximum disruption