Tennis Thread

[Pubteam Lomas]

She likes the lifestyle that tennis gives her, but she's mentally quite week.

As a former boxing correspondent once said about a fledging fighter; 'he likes the training, telling everyone he's a boxer, but he doesn't like getting hit!'

Raducanu appears to love the glamour of tennis but not the hard work.
There'll always be a wrist injury, a tight calf or blisters to hold her back.

 

[Tim of the Oak]

Until she wins another major then all the coaches she has gone through are spot-on, When the going gets tough she will pull up, Many of the top tennis players play with pain and have operations for all sorts of things, I think it's a mental block with her after winning the US Open at that early stage of her career, She went downhill fast and troubles with many coaches says something was not right.

Once you win a major the hardest part is to repeat it, Doing the long yards fitness-wise and putting in the training and the hours and hours of hitting needs 100% dedication away from the lifestyle

Warm-up tournaments mean nothing really, all they are used for is playing time on grass for timing, Last week's loss in the final at Nottingham was down to a slip ?? 1 set up then play suspended and the next day taped up knee lost 2 sets and the final,

She needs to either want it and put in the hard yards or leave tennis for a lifestyle and live on winning the US Open, My bet is the 2nd option

I doubt you would have backed her to win a single major.

 

[ancoats]

I doubt you would have backed her to win a single major.

Not at all, She was a breath of fresh air when she burst onto the scene, I watched all of her games in the US Open she won, We all wanted her to be this next big thing in UK Tennis, But it went downhill just as fast and coach after coach could not get a tune out of her, Then lots of things started to happen from blisters to illness then wrist surgery more coaches more blisters and illness the list goes on and on.

As I said let's wait and see when Wimbledon starts and the big-time major players who are hungry and want to win at all costs and will play through the pain and blisters

 

[daveoswald]

Really enjoy the game, they are amazing athletes, bucket list for me is watching a game on centre court at Wimbledon.

 

[KS55]

Until she wins another major then all the coaches she has gone through are spot-on, When the going gets tough she will pull up, Many of the top tennis players play with pain and have operations for all sorts of things, I think it's a mental block with her after winning the US Open at that early stage of her career, She went downhill fast and troubles with many coaches says something was not right.

Once you win a major the hardest part is to repeat it, Doing the long yards fitness-wise and putting in the training and the hours and hours of hitting needs 100% dedication away from the lifestyle

Warm-up tournaments mean nothing really, all they are used for is playing time on grass for timing, Last week's loss in the final at Nottingham was down to a slip ?? 1 set up then play suspended and the next day taped up knee lost 2 sets and the final,

She needs to either want it and put in the hard yards or leave tennis for a lifestyle and live on winning the US Open, My bet is the 2nd option

Nope!
Coach problems (caused by her immaturity) are quite separate from mental strength to overcome injury.
There is absolutely no evidence of the latter, other than your imagination!
At Nottingham she actually said she felt good but ran out of steam. No mention of any injury.
On fitness she has put in a prodigious amount of work based on Andy Murray’s program. The BOA agreed with her that the olympics was not a good idea and that further fitness work was better. After missing over a season, coming back is a big deal, just ask KDB.

 

[Gray]

Really enjoy the game, they are amazing athletes, bucket list for me is watching a game on centre court at Wimbledon.

My lad was in the ballot for Centre Court and was unsuccessful. They have a resale window and he attacked it vigourously for over a week.

Then out of the blue up popped a ticket for the ladies final which he managed to get, a front row seat in the corner diagonally opposite where the players enter the court.

To say he is buzzing would be an understatement.

 

[KS55]

I’ve not managed centre court but when I lived 5 mins walk from the courts, you could get in to the other courts for a fiver during the first week, about 4pm. Being poor at the time, it was great, especially on sunny evenings.

 

[ancoats]

Nope!
Coach problems (caused by her immaturity) are quite separate from mental strength to overcome injury.
There is absolutely no evidence of the latter, other than your imagination!
At Nottingham she actually said she felt good but ran out of steam. No mention of any injury.
On fitness she has put in a prodigious amount of work based on Andy Murray’s program. The BOA agreed with her that the olympics was not a good idea and that further fitness work was better. After missing over a season, coming back is a big deal, just ask KDB.

In the final in Nottingham, she calls for a medical time-out after slipping but plays on when knowing the game is going to end because of the light, Next she wins the tiebreaker game over, Only to come back again in the morning with strapping on the knee and loses 2 sets and the final, I am not buying that she just coming back from a year out and ran out of steam ? she had a good night's rest

Look until she wins another major then all the doubters will be saying the same things, She is not up for a fight and is a jelly-belly that pulls out because of blisters

 

[KS55]

In the final in Nottingham, she calls for a medical time-out after slipping but plays on when knowing the game is going to end because of the light, Next she wins the tiebreaker game over, Only to come back again in the morning with strapping on the knee and loses 2 sets and the final, I am not buying that she just coming back from a year out and ran out of steam ? she had a good night's rest

Look until she wins another major then all the doubters will be saying the same things, She is not up for a fight and is a jelly-belly that pulls out because of blisters

Sorry you can’t even get your basic facts right.
1. She didn’t make the final in Nottm.
2. She played in the semi WITH minimal STRAPPING ON HER KNEE. One strand of muscle tape!
If you look up the Nottm open you can see the highlights of her semi which see lost in 3 sets, including a 30 point tie break. You try.

 

[ancoats]

Sorry you can’t even get your basic facts right.
1. She didn’t make the final in Nottm.
2. She played in the semi WITH minimal STRAPPING ON HER KNEE. One strand of muscle tape!
If you look up the Nottm open you can see the highlights of her semi which see lost in 3 sets, including a 30 point tie break. You try.

My bad and you're right, because it was on the same day I got mixed up,
Katie Boulter played 2 games and won but again she's not the so-called superstar Emma Raducanu is ??

Like I keep saying, forget the time out that's why they play 3 or 4 of these warm-up tournaments so they are used to the grass, Major tournaments are so different and the seedings of the top players means she may well end up playing the top 10 players in the first week,

Emma Raducanu chances, !00% I don't see her getting through the first week

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[JRockBlues]

Raducanu's old hat now as there's a 15-year-old who is just one match away from making the Wimbledon draw.

Hannah Klugman

 

[KS55]

My bad and you're right, because it was on the same day I got mixed up,
Katie Boulter played 2 games and won but again she's not the so-called superstar Emma Raducanu is ??

Like I keep saying, forget the time out that's why they play 3 or 4 of these warm-up tournaments so they are used to the grass, Major tournaments are so different and the seedings of the top players means she may well end up playing the top 10 players in the first week,

Emma Raducanu chances, !00% I don't see her getting through the first week

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Bournemouth won’t thank you for calling it a warm up. It is highly ranked as a WTF tournament!

 

[JRockBlues]

Raducanu's old hat now as there's a 15-year-old who is just one match away from making the Wimbledon draw.

Hannah Klugman

Maybe not, she got beat in her final qualifying match against American Alycia Parks who is ranked 402 places higher.

 

[ancoats]

Bournemouth won’t thank you for calling it a warm up. It is highly ranked as a WTF tournament!

Oh well, it was too windy for the Brits

I watched the first set and I think it was Annabel Croft on the commentary saying she spoke to Emma and she was saying she was still fighting the demons off-court ?? Look she is still very talented and still young enough to come again. But if only it was that easy, She needs to address the mental block and demons she's carrying

Maybe Andy Murray could become her full-time coach and install some positive attitude even a little bit of anger
She needs something and giving it her all is the first step, Leave nothing on the court if you want to twin badly

 

[KS55]

Oh well, it was too windy for the Brits

I watched the first set and I think it was Annabel Croft on the commentary saying she spoke to Emma and she was saying she was still fighting the demons off-court ?? Look she is still very talented and still young enough to come again. But if only it was that easy, She needs to address the mental block and demons she's carrying

Maybe Andy Murray could become her full-time coach and install some positive attitude even a little bit of anger
She needs something and giving it her all is the first step, Leave nothing on the court if you want to twin badly

I thought she was poor today. Her return of serve, normally a strong point, was weak and she didn’t serve great.
Her biggest demon is her dad who interferes a lot instead of letting her get on with it, not the first to suffer from that.

 

[ancoats]

I thought she was poor today. Her return of serve, normally a strong point, was weak and she didn’t serve great.
Her biggest demon is her dad who interferes a lot instead of letting her get on with it, not the first to suffer from that.

That is easy to sort out and just get a court order on him.

Look she is an adult now and in full control of her life and if her dad is getting in her head then cut him off from having a say, Having a sporting life away from family is so important and you need a line in the sand at her age.
From now on she needs a proper training camp and be ruthless in who is in control, Andy Murray has had the same sort of thing with his mum, But that stopped and both got on better and Andy had a good training camp.

 

[Xhavenjoe]

Obviously not tennis but the local art gallery has an exhibition of weird tennis tables called Wiff Waff.
You are allowed to play on them

 

[bluethrunthru]

Excellent stuff

 

[KS55]

Raducanu’s results at Wimbledon have pushed her into the top 100, so she can now enter majors without a wild card. She has been included in the US Open draw.

 

[Black&White&BlueMoon Town]

anyone watching Olympic tennis yet?

There's no talk of it in the Olympics thread, and I can't be bothered on some of the other sports that I'm not (yet) watching, so I'll ask here.

Nice comeback by Dan Evans in the 3rd set today, and we're one set away from getting Nadal vs. Joker in the next round.