Terrible support (Sunderland view)

lancs blue said:
Sky Blue said:
What's your excuse for these shite average attendances ?

1980-81 26,479
1981-82 19,608
1982-83 17,370
1984-85 18,348
1985-86 16,055
1987-88 17,427
1988-89 14,880
1992-93 17,260
1993-94 16,997
1996-97 20,974

Be careful where you're going with that, our crowds weren't all that hot in the mid to late 80s either.

Tbh all this dick-waving over attendances is a bit pointless, concentrate on the fact that we'd rather be 5th in the table than 14th!

Where did I say they were ?.....although I am sure ours were healthier than that. Thing is when we were relegated to the old 3rd Division we averaged nearly 28k. The Mighty Sunderland didn't get close to that(averaged 17,427 and won The League) . I just think he's a bit of a cheeky c*nt having a go at our support when there's is nothing to write home about......
 
yesterdays turnout was average at best, but there are mitigating circumstances.

it's ok for sunderland fans to mock city's away support, but then i doubt they are being ripped off everywhere they go, i doubt very much for instance sunderland are paying/paid 49 quid to got fulham and 47 for spurs 35 for blackburn etc.

sunderland will be lower catergory, which is fair enough.

sunderland have an excellent away support, and good luck to them, but like city, it isn't a wealthy area, that why niall quinn was virtually giving season tickets away at the start of the season for juniors, and i noticed next year at sunderland kids will only be charged 49 for a season at the stadium of light, which i think is brilliant.

for a sunderland fan again to mock city about filling a ground is a bit rich when tickets at sunderland never get anywhere near the 46 quid that city fans are asked to pay for big matches, and even the most deluded sunderland fan knows what happened to their crowds when they were shit.
 
The away clubs should stop fucking robbing us blind for ticket prices look at Fulham £49 and then Arsenal £33 (FANTASTIC) its not our bad support its because we are getting ripped off everywhere we go and its a fooking joke I go quite a lot of away games yesterday I didn't because it was mothers day and it was on sky Fulham can get fucked at £49 but im going Burnley and Arsenal and I will be defo at West Ham :)
 
Ricster said:
immensah said:
If you want to make a comparison then here goes. When we twice finished 7th under Reid we averaged over 46000. This would have been a lot higher had the away support not been so poor. You are in a higher position this season and averaging 45000 with far better away support at your ground. Fact is we would comfortably sellout if we were chasing a champions league spot and had the team you have.

And what average would you be getting if you were in League 1? Dont doubt how loyal City's support is. Especially when you're numbers dwindled by about half when you went down only 1 division.
Wasn't so long ago you were regularly getting crowds of 35k in the premier. If you went down with record low points twice then you would say goodbye to a third of them. The last time we went down it under Murray it was the last straw for some who vowed not to return until he went. City couldn't sellout at half the away grounds last season and that included ones on your doorstep like Wigan and Blackburn and only had about 1400 at Sunderland. Whereas we were in a relegation fight, had a dreadful away record but still managed to sell out all but a couple of away matches including 3000 at your place.
 
the away allocation at COMS is approx 2850, sunderland had 2650 this season.

there were rows of empties on the top tier.
 
billy_big_spuds said:
immensah said:
If you want to make a comparison then here goes. When we twice finished 7th under Reid we averaged over 46000. This would have been a lot higher had the away support not been so poor. You are in a higher position this season and averaging 45000 with far better away support at your ground. Fact is we would comfortably sellout if we were chasing a champions league spot and had the team you have.
Sorry mate, but Sunderland is too much of a shit tip to spend 2 hours travelling to.
Get Quinny to move your ground to say, Darlington or Durham or summat and watch the away numbers increase.
Its a long way to go to get frostbite, get slurred at, get spoken to in a different language, and come away needing a tetanus jab.
You obviously must feel the same about most places where City play if your away numbers are anything to go by.

-- Mon Mar 15, 2010 3:34 pm --

Ticket For Schalke said:
Ricster said:
And what average would you be getting if you were in League 1? Dont doubt how loyal City's support is. Especially when you're numbers dwindled by about half when you went down only 1 division.

we will always have the hardcore away fans, something like 1000.
We had more than that at Pompey for a midweek game despite it being 350 away.

-- Mon Mar 15, 2010 3:39 pm --

Sky Blue said:
immensah said:
Using Mother's Day as an excuse is a bit embarrassing to say the least. What's your excuse for only bringing 1400 last season?

What's your excuse for these shite average attendances ?

1980-81 26,479
1981-82 19,608
1982-83 17,370
1984-85 18,348
1985-86 16,055
1987-88 17,427
1988-89 14,880
1992-93 17,260
1993-94 16,997
1996-97 20,974
Probably because we were utter dross in them years andconstantly yo-yoed between divisions.

-- Mon Mar 15, 2010 3:42 pm --

fathellensbellend said:
the away allocation at COMS is approx 2850, sunderland had 2650 this season.

there were rows of empties on the top tier.
Sold out and didn't even go to general sale. The same happened last season. City have never sold out at Sunderland whereas we always sellout at your place.<br /><br />-- Mon Mar 15, 2010 3:43 pm --<br /><br />
fathellensbellend said:
the away allocation at COMS is approx 2850, sunderland had 2650 this season.

there were rows of empties on the top tier.
Sold out and didn't even go to general sale. The same happened last season. City have never sold out at Sunderland whereas we always sellout at your place.
 
Let's be honest, it was a shocking turn out yesterday.

It looked full where I was stood until I watched the highlights to see the gaping section of empty seats.

Sunderland are impressive away of that there is no doubt, this is aided by huge supporter branches in both Manchester and London.

Regarding the club taking reduced allocations you can't blame them really however not to be able to sell 2600 for a 2 hour trip is embarrasing.

We need to start giving the aura of a big club i.e. selling out every allocation, if the club needs to help with free buses then this is what they should do.
 
immensah said:
billy_big_spuds said:
Sorry mate, but Sunderland is too much of a shit tip to spend 2 hours travelling to.
Get Quinny to move your ground to say, Darlington or Durham or summat and watch the away numbers increase.
Its a long way to go to get frostbite, get slurred at, get spoken to in a different language, and come away needing a tetanus jab.
You obviously must feel the same about most places where City play if your away numbers are anything to go by.

-- Mon Mar 15, 2010 3:34 pm --

Ticket For Schalke said:
we will always have the hardcore away fans, something like 1000.
We had more than that at Pompey for a midweek game despite it being 350 away.

-- Mon Mar 15, 2010 3:39 pm --

Sky Blue said:
What's your excuse for these shite average attendances ?

1980-81 26,479
1981-82 19,608
1982-83 17,370
1984-85 18,348
1985-86 16,055
1987-88 17,427
1988-89 14,880
1992-93 17,260
1993-94 16,997
1996-97 20,974
Probably because we were utter dross in them years andconstantly yo-yoed between divisions.

-- Mon Mar 15, 2010 3:42 pm --

fathellensbellend said:
the away allocation at COMS is approx 2850, sunderland had 2650 this season.

there were rows of empties on the top tier.
Sold out and didn't even go to general sale. The same happened last season. City have never sold out at Sunderland whereas we always sellout at your place.

-- Mon Mar 15, 2010 3:43 pm --

fathellensbellend said:
the away allocation at COMS is approx 2850, sunderland had 2650 this season.

there were rows of empties on the top tier.
Sold out and didn't even go to general sale. The same happened last season. City have never sold out at Sunderland whereas we always sellout at your place.

i must have imagined the first ever game at the staium of light, and the one where don hutchinson scored the winner, boty sell outs for city fans.

you are a cheap ticket club, cheap at home, cheap away, always have been, always will be.

when you are shit you melt
 
Too many people are expectant and when its not going our way most people shout there frustration instead of there support.
 
fathellensbellend said:
immensah said:
You obviously must feel the same about most places where City play if your away numbers are anything to go by.

-- Mon Mar 15, 2010 3:34 pm --


We had more than that at Pompey for a midweek game despite it being 350 away.

-- Mon Mar 15, 2010 3:39 pm --


Probably because we were utter dross in them years andconstantly yo-yoed between divisions.

-- Mon Mar 15, 2010 3:42 pm --


Sold out and didn't even go to general sale. The same happened last season. City have never sold out at Sunderland whereas we always sellout at your place.

-- Mon Mar 15, 2010 3:43 pm --


Sold out and didn't even go to general sale. The same happened last season. City have never sold out at Sunderland whereas we always sellout at your place.

i must have imagined the first ever game at the staium of light, and the one where don hutchinson scored the winner, boty sell outs for city fans.

you are a cheap ticket club, cheap at home, cheap away, always have been, always will be.

when you are shit you melt

It was sold out when Vassel scuffed it in as well.
 
immensah said:
billy_big_spuds said:
Sorry mate, but Sunderland is too much of a shit tip to spend 2 hours travelling to.
Get Quinny to move your ground to say, Darlington or Durham or summat and watch the away numbers increase.
Its a long way to go to get frostbite, get slurred at, get spoken to in a different language, and come away needing a tetanus jab.
You obviously must feel the same about most places where City play if your away numbers are anything to go by.

-- Mon Mar 15, 2010 3:34 pm --

Ticket For Schalke said:
we will always have the hardcore away fans, something like 1000.
We had more than that at Pompey for a midweek game despite it being 350 away.

-- Mon Mar 15, 2010 3:39 pm --

Sky Blue said:
What's your excuse for these shite average attendances ?

1980-81 26,479
1981-82 19,608
1982-83 17,370
1984-85 18,348
1985-86 16,055
1987-88 17,427
1988-89 14,880
1992-93 17,260
1993-94 16,997
1996-97 20,974
Probably because we were utter dross in them years andconstantly yo-yoed between divisions.

What a shite excuse, so what you mean is your loyalty to your club is wank when your not in the top divisions?

We entered the 3rd tier of english football and averaged crowds of 30,000 now that is loyalty.


-- Mon Mar 15, 2010 3:42 pm --

fathellensbellend said:
the away allocation at COMS is approx 2850, sunderland had 2650 this season.

there were rows of empties on the top tier.
Sold out and didn't even go to general sale. The same happened last season. City have never sold out at Sunderland whereas we always sellout at your place.

-- Mon Mar 15, 2010 3:43 pm --

fathellensbellend said:
the away allocation at COMS is approx 2850, sunderland had 2650 this season.

there were rows of empties on the top tier.
Sold out and didn't even go to general sale. The same happened last season. City have never sold out at Sunderland whereas we always sellout at your place.


Another thing your nearest rival is like 10 fcuking miles away, newcastle then there's boro thats it all the others darlington etc are shite!

We share a city with (hate to say this) the most successful club in english football! we have Liverpool, everton, blackburn, bolton, wigan all with small radius all prem clubs which can impact on support!

I seen your stadium 49,000 and regularly seen attendances at stadium of light 36,000.
 
Instead of moaning about our support they should moan about how shit they are.
Shit team in a shit hole of a town with a hideously deformed manager who somehow manages to look almost normal amongst the web footed, beer bellied, inbred wannabe Geordie masses.<br /><br />-- Mon Mar 15, 2010 4:32 pm --<br /><br />
stony said:
Instead of moaning about our support they should moan about how shit they are.
Shit team in a shit hole of a town with a hideously deformed manager who somehow manages to look almost normal amongst the web footed, beer bellied, inbred wannabe Geordie masses.

Sunderland! The only place in England where Steve Bruce can walk down the street and attract wolf whistles.
 
Yesterday was the first chance for me to go to Sunderland the place or the ground and I quite liked it. As for our support, it's wasn't great, but then again neither was Sunderland's! However, I will never slag anyone else off for not going to a game, I happen to be lucky right now and have the chance to go to pretty much all our games. MANY fans up and down the country no longer have the chance, due to work, cost or family commitments. The bottom-line is after a long season by the middle of March a Sunday afternoon watching a Steve Bruce managed team when it's on the box, isn't everybodies cup of tea(including many Sunderland fans).
 
immensah said:
Ricster said:
And what average would you be getting if you were in League 1? Dont doubt how loyal City's support is. Especially when you're numbers dwindled by about half when you went down only 1 division.
Wasn't so long ago you were regularly getting crowds of 35k in the premier. If you went down with record low points twice then you would say goodbye to a third of them. The last time we went down it under Murray it was the last straw for some who vowed not to return until he went. City couldn't sellout at half the away grounds last season and that included ones on your doorstep like Wigan and Blackburn and only had about 1400 at Sunderland. Whereas we were in a relegation fight, had a dreadful away record but still managed to sell out all but a couple of away matches including 3000 at your place.

Yeah, i agree. We did have crowds of 35k in the prem. But thats when we were at Maine Road which had a capacity of 35,191.

Being honest, its easy for fans of a small club like Sunderland to go to City and fill the ground as its the only way you'll see decent players.

Anyway, thats all im saying on this cos of you're silly 35k talk. 10years and counting mate. 10 years
 
immensah said:
Using Mother's Day as an excuse is a bit embarrassing to say the least. What's your excuse for only bringing 1400 last season?

What was your excuse for only taking 800 to Everton this season?

You're a crap away day simple as, look at our recent / next away fixture - Chelsea sold out £48, Fulham sell out at £49 a ticket, Burnley Sold out £35 - 3 weeks in advance, Arsenal only single tickets left and still 6 weeks away.
 
immensah said:
Ricster said:
And what average would you be getting if you were in League 1? Dont doubt how loyal City's support is. Especially when you're numbers dwindled by about half when you went down only 1 division.
Wasn't so long ago you were regularly getting crowds of 35k in the premier. If you went down with record low points twice then you would say goodbye to a third of them. The last time we went down it under Murray it was the last straw for some who vowed not to return until he went. City couldn't sellout at half the away grounds last season and that included ones on your doorstep like Wigan and Blackburn and only had about 1400 at Sunderland. Whereas we were in a relegation fight, had a dreadful away record but still managed to sell out all but a couple of away matches including 3000 at your place.
As it happens we sold out both Wigan and Blackburn last season.....
 

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