Terrorist attack on asylum centre

[Strangerepublic]

too many personal insults on here .

Welcome to politics 2022.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

If we have millions of jobs unfilled, then let's stop paying unemployment benefits because they should be easily be able to find jobs, right?
Can't have it both ways.

And it isn't immigration per se. Those "against" immigration are not arguing for complete bans, they are asking for a) control over numbers and b) curtailing illegal immigrants.
As an immigrant myself, there is nothing wrong or "racist" about either point.

There aren’t the numbers on “unemployment benefit”.

 

[The Future’s Blue!]

If we have millions of jobs unfilled, then let's stop paying unemployment benefits because they should be easily be able to find jobs, right?
Can't have it both ways.

And it isn't immigration per se. Those "against" immigration are not arguing for complete bans, they are asking for a) control over numbers and b) curtailing illegal immigrants.
As an immigrant myself, there is nothing wrong or "racist" about either point.

Evening Cruella.

 

[bluethrunthru]

 

[bluethrunthru]

If we have millions of jobs unfilled, then let's stop paying unemployment benefits because they should be easily be able to find jobs, right?
Can't have it both ways.

And it isn't immigration per se. Those "against" immigration are not arguing for complete bans, they are asking for a) control over numbers and b) curtailing illegal immigrants.
As an immigrant myself, there is nothing wrong or "racist" about either point.

1.2m Job vacancies
110k on Job Seekers Allowance ( unemployment benefits
Genius aren't you?

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

1.2m Job vacancies
110k on Job Seekers Allowance ( unemployment benefits
Genius aren't you?

Think he’d be in favour of sending them 300 miles to pick fruit away from their families too, spending half their wages on their train fare, should the rain turn up.

 

[ZenHalfTimeCrock]

If we have millions of jobs unfilled, then let's stop paying unemployment benefits because they should be easily be able to find jobs, right?
Can't have it both ways.

And it isn't immigration per se. Those "against" immigration are not arguing for complete bans, they are asking for a) control over numbers and b) curtailing illegal immigrants.
As an immigrant myself, there is nothing wrong or "racist" about either point.

The problem for me is more to do with the callousness of the government’s approach, as encapsulated by Braverman’s perverse and morally repellent speech at the Tory party conference, and her use of inflammatory language like ‘invasion’, which seem designed to appeal to the very worst in us, given that we have been moulded by evolutionary psychology into a tribalistic species, one that is capable of acts expressive of empathy, generosity and altruism towards those we identify with, but also exhibitions of antipathy and outright hostility when it comes to those who are not deemed to be part of that ‘in-group’.

Plus, it is not rocket science to spend all the money currently being used for inhumane 'solutions' such as Rwanda - which aren't solutions - on the swifter processing of claimants.

Then we would know that those admitted are in fact refugees, because their claim has been assessed.

Those who are not refugees will then not be wrecking the situation for the desperate, the persecuted, and the war-torn.

The interesting issue here is why our government won’t do that.

Right now I am knackered after a long day, so all I can do is speculate that the only reason they have adopted this approach is because they know it will play very well with a certain, militantly stupid constituency that are susceptible to scapegoating and ‘othering’, which in turn deflects attention away from the spectacular failure of a Conservative brand of economics that has exacerbated economic equality and eroded the social fabric that has previously bound us together.

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

Think he’d be in favour of sending them 300 miles to pick fruit away from their families too, spending half their wages on their train fare, should the rain turn up.

Immigrant who hates immigrants...

Surely a former UKIP candidate?

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

Immigrant who hates immigrants...

Surely a former UKIP candidate?

Or a future Reclaim one.

 

[bluethrunthru]

The problem for me is more to do with the callousness of the government’s approach, as encapsulated by Braverman’s perverse and morally repellent speech at the Tory party conference, and her use of inflammatory language like ‘invasion’, which seem designed to appeal to the very worst in us, given that we have been moulded by evolutionary psychology into a tribalistic species, one that is capable of acts expressive of empathy, generosity and altruism towards those we identify with, but also exhibitions of antipathy and outright hostility when it comes to those who are not deemed to be part of that ‘in-group’.

Plus, it is not rocket science to spend all the money currently being used for inhumane 'solutions' such as Rwanda - which aren't solutions - on the swifter processing of claimants.

Then we would know that those admitted are in fact refugees, because their claim has been assessed.

Those who are not refugees will then not be wrecking the situation for the desperate, the persecuted, and the war-torn.

The interesting issue here is why our government won’t do that.

Right now I am knackered after a long day, so all I can do is speculate that the only reason they have adopted this approach is because they know it will play very well with a certain, militantly stupid constituency that are susceptible to scapegoating and ‘othering’, which in turn deflects attention away from the spectacular failure of a Conservative brand of economics that has exacerbated economic equality and eroded the social fabric that has previously bound us together.

No I think the problem in answer to @Strangerepublic specific "answer" is it was a stupid post because the number of people on JSA is a mere fraction of the number of vacancies - its putting 2 beans on the table then telling him you have just put 5 further beans down and asking him how many beans do you have. His answer is "some beans" - its just counting but typical of people with his mind set which is why I mentioned Monkey Tennis yesterday - Brexit is a bust - we do not have control of our borders as they wanted but rather than accept its a fuck up and admit they were wrong the will "defend" their position by blurting stuff out without thinking it through. Thats why the Rwanda policy is somehow defended and why this attacker is a man with mental issues and not a domestic terrorist. If its treated as domestic terrorism and people know that then maybe people may look at "Terry down the pub" and hear what he says and report him to Prevent and possibly there won't be a repeat attack and even "Terry down the pub" may get help