Tevez interview in the Mail

[The Fat el Hombre]

Well after reading the training session reports they can hardly be burned out.
Light jogging followed by stretching. Then onto following Mancini round a field whilst he positions players for different game situations and then a twenty minute kick about with maybe some shooting practice to finish

The head tennis matches must be very intense

 

[Montgomery Burns]

Wasn't it claimed earlier this season (probably in the Mail) that he has that poster on his wall in Argentina?

First-class attempt at unsettling City before the derby.

Now you mention it, I distinctly recall that!

Methinks you are spot on.

And you're right!

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Carlos is a poster boy

Published: 03 Feb 2010

CARLOS TEVEZ has that 'Welcome to Manchester' poster Alex Ferguson hates on his wall.

Manchester City made the provocative advert after snatching the Argentinian hitman from their derby rivals.

United boss Fergie claimed the antagonising sign was proof of the arrogance of the Reds 'noisy neighbours'.

But Tevez was so happy with the print he got as a present, he hung it on his wall.

He said: "It is in my home in Argentina. Somebody bought it for me. I'd never buy anything with my name or image on. It's not really my style."

As for crossing the city divide, Tevez said: "I had a passion for United when I played for them. But now my passion is for Manchester City. My goals against United were for the City fans. I don't have to prove anything."

 

[Tricky_Trev]

I hope this doen't take some of the players' focus of the derby. It's inevitable that the papers will now build up this story to the point that by Thursday/Friday, Mancini and Tevez will have had a "training ground bust up". Also, i'm sure the papers will now come out with make belief stories that Tevez has fallen out with the board, or something along those lines. This is what we are going to have to deal with. Nobody wants us to get 4th, as it will seal everyone else's fate. If we get 4th this season, there is absolutely no stopping us. The papers will now try to do whatever they can to stop it from happening. Stay strong City, stay strong!

 

[BobKowalski]

Honest interview maybe. Dumb interview most definitely.

Owners ain't going to like it. They sacked Hughes because they want 4th spot. Or does he think they should sink the money in and then keep Hughes to make the players 'happy'?

The players are here to get 4th spot and then kick on to better things from there so if it takes a more stringent training regime so be it. And irrespective of Mancini's long term future or otherwise does he think its going to be any easier under someone like Mourinho?

Stupid tit.

 

[MCFC-alan88]

Honest interview maybe. Dumb interview most definitely.

Owners ain't going to like it. They sacked Hughes because they want 4th spot. Or does he think they should sink the money in and then keep Hughes to make the players 'happy'?

The players are here to get 4th spot and then kick on to better things from there so if it takes a more stringent training regime so be it. And irrespective of Mancini's long term future or otherwise does he think its going to be any easier under someone like Mourinho?

Stupid tit.

Did you read the entire article? He was asked a question, he answered it honestly.

I was neither here nor there with Hughes, I didn't like the way it was done, but it WAS done and the owners brought in their own man, this is what alot of people seem to be forgetting and we're getting slaughtered for "chopping and changing managers" when in reality, the only manager our owners have appointed, is Mancini.

I also believe this interview was not done within the last 2 months. As has been stated previously, there are no double training sessions at the moment, and there hasn't been in quite some time. Not since RM first came in and needed to assess the squad.

 

[Dave Ewing's Back 'eader]

Great read what an honest guy

Down to earth, honest, oozing integrity, the kind of guy who doesn't let you down.

Think he has more respect for the team mates he had over Chester Road than vice versa.

 

[halpo123]

Great read what an honest guy

Down to earth, honest, oozing integrity, the kind of guy who doesn't let you down.

Think he has more respect for the team mates he had over Chester Road than vice versa.

dont say that

 

[bluenova]

I also believe this interview was not done within the last 2 months. As has been stated previously, there are no double training sessions at the moment, and there hasn't been in quite some time. Not since RM first came in and needed to assess the squad.

Could well be true. It reads like an interview that would have been given around the time of Mancini taking over.

The Guardian said he's been told not to talk to the newspapers before the United match, so either he did, or the Mail have been clever and waited to print it. I suspect the latter - even though he's pretty open in the interview it doesn't read like someone who is trying to start a war with the club.


As for the story about the poster in Argentina, that could be totally made up. A lot of those small 'did you know' kind of stories are total fantasy to fill space in the tabloids. They may be made up, picked up from dubious internet sources or whatever - but they get away with loads of them as they are simply not worth denying half the time.

 

[dave_blue12]

I sort of like how he questions Mancini. I prefer it when a manager is respected and not necessarily liked by his players. Sven was definitely too soft and I suspect Hughes was only a little less so. I'm hoping Mancini is just that bit more "very much concentrate" 'cos "it's a difficult match", etc... I don't care if he's liked once we are not crap to watch and make less stupid mistakes (both of which were true under our previous managers).

mancini was less than 100% popular in the inter dressing room too. in fact he and viera had a public falling out. I can accept that he uses the dark arts of people management, much as I accept that Kubrick and Hitchcock regularly put their actors through hell in order to get the required response.

popularity counts for nothing really, it's only one way to make people listen to you. what counts is that they listen and then follow the game plan religiously. equally as important is that they taking complete responsibility for their own performance. I am glad Carlos takes the credit for his excellent displays, as that demonstrates exactly the mindset you want. it's the pay-off for taking full responsibility for his own performance. the talent is his and the work is his. the coach is just an enabler, the more invisible he appears the better. you wouldn't say Fergie made Scholes or Giggs great players. But they did have great careers under him.

I think the vast majority of people who've seen us play recently would agree that there is a definite plan for every player and an overall plan for the team. you can see that it changes from game to game, for example compare how we repeatedly attacked down the flanks in the early stages on sunday, pulling them one way and the other, to our more central attacks against burnley. for examples of how individual players are utilised, I would cite how nedum took up an unorthodox position during saturdays game, slightly infield of the flank and ahead of the defense. under mark hughes, when I could see the gameplan, the danger was that as soon as the pressure mounted, it went out of the window and became a free for all. i would cite the high defensive line against tottenham, as soon as lennon beat us once, the whole team decamped 20 yards further back, reverting to the easy option, effectively conceding the game.

It's a long way of saying, we are a far more disciplined unit now. so even if they don't like everything he does, I believe they are following his instructions. it's quite funny to hear about the training sessions. Initially we were told that the players thought they were not intense enough, now they are too long. what I would say is that the players appear anything but tired on the pitch, unlike so many other teams at this time of year. I think it's true that everyone's had a break, one way or another, under Mancini. perhaps carlos is still bridling a bit at the public way in which mancini demanded his return from argentina... that's just fine by me, it appears his fire is burning as bright as ever. the danger is complacency and, what would you call it, fear? lethargy? apathy?

the site of players hiding from the fight is one we have become familiar with over the years, and for me, mancini's also takes credit for getting this team to fight when it would be so much easier for them to go through the motions. tevez and bellamy are natural fighters, the art here appears to be stoking their fires and focusing their energy. but what of the likes of adebayor? it would have been so easy for him to disappear into the background after his horrible year, but instead he has put it to one side, publicly accepted that his overall performance had not been as good as it might have, and gone about putting it right by really exerting himself on the pitch. the great big grin on his face is the sign of someone pleased with his own honesty and hardwork.

I do accept that there have also been big disappointments under Mancini, in particular ireland and wright-phillips. unfortunately when I look back over stephen's public comments this year, I see someone blaming his form on his managers. does he have a point? I don't know, he has faced some sizable challenges this year....but it doesn't suggest someone looking to squeeze every last ounce of effort from himself in order to overcome them, which is the only way any player survives at the top level. it's so hard to reconcile this with what we saw from him last year. elano, and robinho should be abject lessons. talent is never enough. there is a difference between the players who have a succesful year or two (bentley?) and those who are at the top for five, ten, fifteen years. top class club football requires a different kind of commitment, one that never ends until you retire. even a fantastic talent like rivaldo never had the kind of club career that the likes of viera have. even the sublimely skilled have to remove all mental obstacles and go the whole mile, every day, every year, or they get found out at the highest level, as is happening right now to berbatov. clubs like utd, chelsea, barca have less talented squad players who survive year after year because their mentality is never in doubt. the talented get a couple of years to prove they have this mentality or they are moved on without any fuss.

I still firmly believe that stephen can take this huge, daunting step, if he decides that the pressure of being part of all this is worth the reward. As for shaun, I'm not so sure. He works hard, for sure, but I worry that this is someone who accepted life on the bench too easily at Chelsea. second best might be a little too comfortable an option for him at this stage. I worry about one or two others as well but that's a story for another night.

Fantastic post bizzbo. I have a son who is about to embark on a pro Rugby career and I will be using your post on him. It is exactly the message I have been trying to drum into him. He has talent to burn but has yet to really hit the heights.

Cheers
Dave

 

[GoForGlory]

So, when Tevez doesn't slam United or says he wants to be with us until the end of time some of you guys put that down to his quotes being lost in translation? Come on! He speaks his mind and good on him. Seems to have his facts wrong though, maybe he doesn't remember that MH was here for like a year and a half.

Certainly interesting what he says about the training. That was the only thing I was a bit annoyed at...I mean anyone can see it's working, I've never seen us look this fit with only 5 games left. Personally I feel that footballers at this level have an obligation to be at an absolute 100% of their physical fitness, it's part of what they're paid for.

EDIT:

I also believe this interview was not done within the last 2 months. As has been stated previously, there are no double training sessions at the moment, and there hasn't been in quite some time. Not since RM first came in and needed to assess the squad.

Could well be true. It reads like an interview that would have been given around the time of Mancini taking over.

The Guardian said he's been told not to talk to the newspapers before the United match, so either he did, or the Mail have been clever and waited to print it. I suspect the latter - even though he's pretty open in the interview it doesn't read like someone who is trying to start a war with the club.


As for the story about the poster in Argentina, that could be totally made up. A lot of those small 'did you know' kind of stories are total fantasy to fill space in the tabloids. They may be made up, picked up from dubious internet sources or whatever - but they get away with loads of them as they are simply not worth denying half the time.

Oh, if that's the case then forget what I said about the training. Sneaky effing journos! :)

 

[BobKowalski]

Honest interview maybe. Dumb interview most definitely.

Owners ain't going to like it. They sacked Hughes because they want 4th spot. Or does he think they should sink the money in and then keep Hughes to make the players 'happy'?

The players are here to get 4th spot and then kick on to better things from there so if it takes a more stringent training regime so be it. And irrespective of Mancini's long term future or otherwise does he think its going to be any easier under someone like Mourinho?

Stupid tit.

Did you read the entire article? He was asked a question, he answered it honestly.

I was neither here nor there with Hughes, I didn't like the way it was done, but it WAS done and the owners brought in their own man, this is what alot of people seem to be forgetting and we're getting slaughtered for "chopping and changing managers" when in reality, the only manager our owners have appointed, is Mancini.

I also believe this interview was not done within the last 2 months. As has been stated previously, there are no double training sessions at the moment, and there hasn't been in quite some time. Not since RM first came in and needed to assess the squad.

Answering 'honestly' isn't actually a defence as in:

'Did you murder this chap lying on the ground?'
'Why yes I did officer'
'Well thats ok I appreciate you answered honestly'

I would agree that the interview is probably old and 'updated' for derby week. Nonetheless the interview was given and the owners will not take kindly to their decisions being questioned so publicly. Furthermore as we are currently sitting in 4th spot it makes Carlos look a bit of a tit because our position does go some way to vindicating their decision not to mention Mancini's training regime.

I have yet to find any owner/employer/boss take kindly to having their decisions or their methods questioned publicly.

Hence 'stupid tit'

 

[BlueSinclair]

So unnecessary to stir up shit at this time, I feel betrayed too. But this couldn't last, we haven't had shit for weeks. Thanks Tevez, I'll forgive you if you feck up the scum, or else this may have been one of the reasons we suddenly were shit again. Pretty stupid move Tevez, I don't care how good you have been. Disrespectful.

 

[MCFC-alan88]

So unnecessary to stir up shit at this time, I feel betrayed too. But this couldn't last, we haven't had shit for weeks. Thanks Tevez, I'll forgive you if you feck up the scum, or else this may have been one of the reasons we suddenly were shit again.

This is exactly the response they were after, well done.

 

[johnny crossan]

Can't bring myself to believe most of what was wrote in that article and don't want to. I have no doubts he said some of those things but some of them are so far fetched thats it's hard to believe

The giveaway is when he says Michael Dawson is the best English defender........surely Carlos cant think that??!!!

what! where? what?

last year he said it was Micah!

 

[Wrighty Wrexham]

So unnecessary to stir up shit at this time, I feel betrayed too. But this couldn't last, we haven't had shit for weeks. Thanks Tevez, I'll forgive you if you feck up the scum, or else this may have been one of the reasons we suddenly were shit again. Pretty stupid move Tevez, I don't care how good you have been. Disrespectful.

Dont read anything into the article!!

Tevez is a legend in the making!!!

 

[mike channon´s windmill]

Let it lie BMers - don´t fall into the trap they have clearly set - ignore the shit stirring fookwits

 

[BobKowalski]

...oh and whilst I don't buy the conspiracy angle most times this piece is definitely a 'spolier' since the club seem to be gearing up to a 'Tevez Pasion' blitz with stickies, wallpapers, posters and whatnot for derby week so what better than a nice interview dissing his new employers which they have had tucked away in a top drawer for a while.

Lesson is: Don't diss your employer until he is your ex-employer otherwise they may become your ex-employer quicker then you would like.

 

[Tricky_Trev]

So unnecessary to stir up shit at this time, I feel betrayed too. But this couldn't last, we haven't had shit for weeks. Thanks Tevez, I'll forgive you if you feck up the scum, or else this may have been one of the reasons we suddenly were shit again. Pretty stupid move Tevez, I don't care how good you have been. Disrespectful.

Noooooooooooooo. This is what they want. They want us to lose our love for Carlos. Then Carlos will lose his love for City. Then City wont get 4th. Then Carlos will fall out with people. Then Carlos will leave. There's an agenda.

Don't let the first stage of this cycle start! We love you Carlos!!!!!!!

Ignore the press.

 

[Bojinov The Bull]

Don't like this interview at all, to me it sounds like out of all the clubs he is least bothered about City! Sounds like he is just here for the sake of it, although at the end of the day as long as he keeps scoring I couldn't care less!

 

[bobmcfc]

ssn are all over it now so we will hear about it every 30 minutes. proper hatchet job on us by the media.