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Tevez Interview
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zlaz3r
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First of this isn't a new interview but an old one. it's from 13-2-2012
Now its interesting about Mancini putting his frustration from Dzeko out on Carlos
It's not a new thing that Carlos was always undermining Mancini´s Leadership.
Now Mancini always had too fight about respect from the start, Adebayor, Bellamy and Carlos. He now see´s one of his good boy's Dzeko acting like a primadonna and that his current primadonna has sat down because he "thought" he had warmed up enough.
I can see it from Carlos point of view, given i know he is small minded, that it was unfair how Mancini acted, and that he put his frustration out on him.
I also understand Mancini that while he had too deal with one primadonna, the current one doesn't need too quest-en his position.
I think i believe the history because it adds up with the fines and such.
But Carlos is still a **** of the highest order.
First off he doesn't understand why Mancini stripped him off from the armband ? even thou he knew he had asked for a transfer twice before. why does he need too know a reason too get stripped it was fucking obvious...
Also he doesn't decide when he has warmed up enough or not, Mancini decides.
He doesn't decide what tactics Mancini should use or not, the Manager who have gone too school too learn about tactics, the one with the most experience, the one who have won back too back silverware does, not Carlos.
Mancini subbed De jong in for Dzeko because we were getting overrun in the middle, and needed too control the game a bit before we would go for the kill. Mancini has proved again and again that he is a master tactician.
Players should act like players, and not more.
Mancini removed all the players that thought they were more than that. That's why he is the boss.
Now its interesting about Mancini putting his frustration from Dzeko out on Carlos
It's not a new thing that Carlos was always undermining Mancini´s Leadership.
Now Mancini always had too fight about respect from the start, Adebayor, Bellamy and Carlos. He now see´s one of his good boy's Dzeko acting like a primadonna and that his current primadonna has sat down because he "thought" he had warmed up enough.
I can see it from Carlos point of view, given i know he is small minded, that it was unfair how Mancini acted, and that he put his frustration out on him.
I also understand Mancini that while he had too deal with one primadonna, the current one doesn't need too quest-en his position.
I think i believe the history because it adds up with the fines and such.
But Carlos is still a **** of the highest order.
First off he doesn't understand why Mancini stripped him off from the armband ? even thou he knew he had asked for a transfer twice before. why does he need too know a reason too get stripped it was fucking obvious...
Also he doesn't decide when he has warmed up enough or not, Mancini decides.
He doesn't decide what tactics Mancini should use or not, the Manager who have gone too school too learn about tactics, the one with the most experience, the one who have won back too back silverware does, not Carlos.
Mancini subbed De jong in for Dzeko because we were getting overrun in the middle, and needed too control the game a bit before we would go for the kill. Mancini has proved again and again that he is a master tactician.
Players should act like players, and not more.
Mancini removed all the players that thought they were more than that. That's why he is the boss.
shawgorbie
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then he wouldn't have been fined,mancini would have had to apologize and he wouldn't have left his teammates in the lurch and gone playing golf.Do agree to let bygones be bygones and let it lie,not sure some can though.Bert Trautmann's Parachute said:...then we wouldn't be top of the league?Jumanji said:Good point, but if what Tevez said about everyone backing him up in the club investigation is true....welsh_andy said:how can you say that, this is tevez view, we dont know full story from RM, so you cant take what hes saying as they truth. as no of us know the facts. so you cant take one side of story and say it may vindicate certain aspects
foreverablue18
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Whether he had already warmed up 2 times or not .. for fucks sake, if i was getting paid the disgusting amount of money he's being paid I'd be right on my bike!
Well I did watch the interview through and for the life of me I cannot understand why he keeps giving these interviews, if he wants to get back playing at City, at any level, he would do better to keep his mouth shut, keep on training, and hoping that the players will accept him back with good grace, as to the city fans, he has got a lot of making up to to get back in our good books.
MattR
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Honestly, he seems pretty reasonable for me. Yeah, he did the wrong thing and should never have refused to warm up, but he got fined two weeks pay for that. Which is more money than most people make in 10 years.
The whole situation was handled so poorly. It was way too public.
Hopefully his words are genuine, as is his apology and he smashes a few goals for us, preferably against United.
The whole situation was handled so poorly. It was way too public.
Hopefully his words are genuine, as is his apology and he smashes a few goals for us, preferably against United.
Well, he actually didn't refuse to play. The club did an investigation and concluded as much. He didn't say the players backed him up either. Just said, the club interviewed them for their investigation, and the club concluded he didn't refuse to play. We can deduce from that a likelihood that the players, assistant coaches, or team officials around could not conclusively oppose his position.shawgorbie said:saying he didn't refuse to play,that all the players backed him up,that mancini treated him like a dog .Now I could go on but I'll just leave it to you to tell me how wrong I am,which i'm sure you will.Jumanji said:Lied about which part?shawgorbie said:just two words,lying tosser
If it is true that Mancini was yelling at Dzeko (which seems to be true), and then he turned around and yelled at Tevez to get back to effing warming up, then Tevez is within his right to claim he was poorly treated.
That Tevez is a prick, is no excuse to go bending the facts to suit bruised egos. In the case of what happened in Munich, it is more likely than not, that Tevez's version of the story is more accurate.
That does not excuse his tantrums when subbed, his fantasy issues with management as reason for wanting a transfer, his intentions to skip the parade, or his idiocy in fukking off to Argentina midseason. But those fact should not take anything away from the factual claims about the events that occurred in Munich.
Tevez is an arrogant footballer (most very good ones are.) He also is a footballer who after growing in stature as a player (at United and more so City) decided he was better off in a country other than England. There is nothing wrong with that. It is his right to seek what is best for him. Unfortunately he often went about it the wrong way simply because he was loved too much where he was.
There is nothing in itself wrong with putting in for a transfer. Sure fans of the club you play for wouldn't like it, but tough, that is part of football. It should not be lost on our fans, that the reason we now have Aguero (one of our favs) is because he did the exact same thing we all seem to want to hate Tevez for doing - He sort a transfer out.
Tevez wanted out, but couldn't get out, and in the process lost a lot of power because the team brought in other players in expectation of him leaving. When he couldn't leave, he dropped from the team first list (correctly so) as 1) The new guys were stepping up and 2) It is generally dumb to build your team on someone considering leaving.
His only real mistake in my opinion is letting his ego get the better of him, and refusing to apologize in September. Even though I see how he could have felt he did nothing wrong. But he let his teammates down, by enflaming a raucous, regardless of whether he actually started it.
I am happy he will be available for the remainder of the season, and if the opportunity arises, we'd have a quality backup to go to for the rest of the season.
Blue Mooner
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Dax777 said:Well, he actually didn't refuse to play. The club did an investigation and concluded as much. He didn't say the players backed him up either. Just said, the club interviewed them for their investigation, and the club concluded he didn't refuse to play. We can deduce from that a likelihood that the players, assistant coaches, or team officials around could not conclusively oppose his position.shawgorbie said:saying he didn't refuse to play,that all the players backed him up,that mancini treated him like a dog .Now I could go on but I'll just leave it to you to tell me how wrong I am,which i'm sure you will.Jumanji said:Lied about which part?
If it is true that Mancini was yelling at Dzeko (which seems to be true), and then he turned around and yelled at Tevez to get back to effing warming up, then Tevez is within his right to claim he was poorly treated.
That Tevez is a prick, is no excuse to go bending the facts to suit bruised egos. In the case of what happened in Munich, it is more likely than not, that Tevez's version of the story is more accurate.
That does not excuse his tantrums when subbed, his fantasy issues with management as reason for wanting a transfer, his intentions to skip the parade, or his idiocy in fukking off to Argentina midseason. But those fact should not take anything away from the factual claims about the events that occurred in Munich.
Tevez is an arrogant footballer (most very good ones are.) He also is a footballer who after growing in stature as a player (at United and more so City) decided he was better off in a country other than England. There is nothing wrong with that. It is his right to seek what is best for him. Unfortunately he often went about it the wrong way simply because he was loved too much where he was.
There is nothing in itself wrong with putting in for a transfer. Sure fans of the club you play for wouldn't like it, but tough, that is part of football. It should not be lost on our fans, that the reason we now have Aguero (one of our favs) is because he did the exact same thing we all seem to want to hate Tevez for doing - He sort a transfer out.
Tevez wanted out, but couldn't get out, and in the process lost a lot of power because the team brought in other players in expectation of him leaving. When he couldn't leave, he dropped from the team first list (correctly so) as 1) The new guys were stepping up and 2) It is generally dumb to build your team on someone considering leaving.
His only real mistake in my opinion is letting his ego get the better of him, and refusing to apologize in September. Even though I see how he could have felt he did nothing wrong. But he let his teammates down, by enflaming a raucous, regardless of whether he actually started it.
I am happy he will be available for the remainder of the season, and if the opportunity arises, we'd have a quality backup to go to for the rest of the season.
Very well reasoned and balanced view something that some fans are unable to see when it comes to Tevez, i think the whole situation was badly managed on both sides.
Time to move on and focus on more important matters like winning the league.