Tevez transfer saga

[Deleted member 14625]

Been reading up on what transpired when Tevez handed in his transfer request. Some of the things that were said crossed lines and I am suprised so many have forgiven him so quickly (his goals help). However I believe we play a more flowing game without him bar the Liverpool game which had orginally been prepared with him leading the line. Does anyone actually see him coming back next season?. If given the choice of another striker would you want that to be the case and say thank you to Tevez and let him go?. I still think the timing was ill advised and that made me think how much he actually cares for the club?. He strikes me as a person who plays for himself and I believe others would contribute more if he was not so selfish. I think its time we tried different options.

I'm not some mug who'll be walked all over by a player. I've still not cheered his name when it's read out at the beginning, nor after a goal he's scored and I've not sung his name in a song we sing once. I have cheered his goals because they are City's goals, my goals. But until September 1st at 9am when I wake up and see he's still playing for us (which I don't think for one minute will happen!) I will treat him in exactly the same way.

I support City, not Tevez! So if he doesn't want to be here - and by his continual depletion in quality of performance and effort levels (he's even put weight on!) I don't think he does - he can do one when we've used him for what we need him for. And well done to City for not folding on that!

 

[Ricster]

To be honest, NO!

As much as i admire Tevez for his hard work and graft for trying to win every ball, when i watch the semi final back we look far more disciplined and balanced.

Hear me out.

When Tevez chases players back, harrasses players, then yeah he might win the ball back but there is no straight outlet once he does win it back because of the style we play. So the ball has to be passed back to De Jong, Kompany or whoever, and the slow passage of play, that frustrates so many starts all over and allows the defending team to get into shape.

Now with Balotelli on Saturday, while he did come back a few times and add some pressure, most of the time he stayed up the pitch, looking to make runs in behind United, or coming short and playing a 1-2 and then making the movement again, but the majority of the time he spent as a forward. Also, when players like De Jong, Barry, Kompany, etc win the ball back, they have that extra option to hit the team on the counter, having Balotelli upfront too i think we get more out of Yaya aswell, as he doesn't always have to bust a gut to get forward because Tevez has ran all the way to right back to get the ball.

As much as i love Carlos, i think we have a better shape and balance without him.

To be honest mate, you're completely wrong. Either you're being deliberately economical with the truth or you don't know as much about the game as you profess to. You say Tevez dropping deep doesn't leave an 'out' ball. Really? Is that because we play with one up top, and when Balo hasn't played, we've basically had nobody with pace who can run in behind? What about when Balo is fit and he plays from the left. When Tevez drops deep does Balo not run in behind from his position on the left thus stretching the game. Isn't our formation supposed to be fluid enough that players interchange? Did you not notice how many times during the semi Silva was the furthest player forward and Balo had shifted to the left?

I can just about swallow all the stupid Carlos bashing because to some extent he brought it upon himself with the transfer request. I'm not going to have people making out like it's good for footballing reasons that he goes. Complete and utter bullshit.

Why write that then? I suggest you watch the semi final again, or maybe even for your first time. Not like you to disagree with someone BS. But hey, thats what forums are for.

 

[Rahart]

Tevez isn't exactly the most reliable of players now is he when it comes to sticking around.
He'll work hard (enough) most of the time.

But when things are going badly for him he'll pout and sulk in the corner, when it's him, it's all about him.

He came for the money and will leave just as quick and it was always to be expected of him when you look at the fact that he so easily left United and came here. Not exactly a player with a lot of loyalty.
However loyatly in football is irrelevant these days.

That said he works very hard. Balotelli doesn't and I'd have Tevez over him time and time again. Balotelli is egotistical, selfish, lazy and arrogant. Simple as. He wont play for others and wont work and has had zero impact on our team. He has only caused Mancini problems with the media.

That said I wouldn't mind Sneijder.
Would love Thomas Muller though.

Tevez has carried the team a lot over the past seasons. Balotelli wouldn't. He simply doesn't have the work rate.

 

[Anonymous]

Why write that then? I suggest you watch the semi final again, or maybe even for your first time. Not like you to disagree with someone BS. But hey, thats what forums are for.

Like I said, you based that entire post on Tevez dropping deep and not leaving an outlet. Yet our system is set up so that the exact opposite happens. If anything we can blame Mancini for getting rid of Bellamy, because it has meant when Balo hasn't been fit, we haven't really had a 'forward' who has enough pace to run in behind.

Weird thing is that I think Balo is also excellent in the lone forwards role - but Carlos is the best in the world at it (in the style in which we play under Mancini) - and only at City could you have supporters who would suggest that he's not good enough to do it. You're conditioning yourself to him leaving by trying to rewrite history. That's childish. Accept that he's a top top player, and has been a top to player for City, wish him all the best, and move on.

 

[Ricster]

Why write that then? I suggest you watch the semi final again, or maybe even for your first time. Not like you to disagree with someone BS. But hey, thats what forums are for.

Like I said, you based that entire post on Tevez dropping deep and not leaving an outlet. Yet our system is set up so that the exact opposite happens. If anything we can blame Mancini for getting rid of Bellamy, because it has meant when Balo hasn't been fit, we haven't really had a 'forward' who has enough pace to run in behind.

Weird thing is that I think Balo is also excellent in the lone forwards role - but Carlos is the best in the world at it (in the style in which we play under Mancini) - and only at City could you have supporters who would suggest that he's not good enough to do it. You're conditioning yourself to him leaving by trying to rewrite history. That's childish. Accept that he's a top top player, and has been a top to player for City, wish him all the best, and move on.

I agree he has been a huge player for us, i just think, especially over the last 5 months when we have played without him we have looked a better unit.

 

[persvenality cult]

The guy running in behind when the false 9 drops deep isn't the sort of 'outlet' people are talking about (I think). When it's Bellamy or AJ or Balotelli doing it from the left/right, they have to be fed from the midfield. They aren't looking to hold onto the ball or bring others into play, they are making low-percentage runs that cause havoc once every so often.

When I think of 'outlets', I think of people who can be reached easily, who can hold onto the ball to relieve pressure, provide a focal point for staging attacks, time after time.

 

[Anonymous]

The guy running in behind when the false 9 drops deep isn't the sort of 'outlet' people are talking about (I think). When it's Bellamy or AJ or Balotelli doing it from the left/right, they have to be fed from the midfield. They aren't looking to hold onto the ball or bring others into play, they are making low-percentage runs that cause havoc once every so often.

When I think of 'outlets', I think of people who can be reached easily, who can hold onto the ball to relieve pressure, provide a focal point for staging attacks, time after time.

And Tevez cannot perform this role?

EDIT -

Sorry, read your post too quickly and thought you were saying something else. I see what you're saying about the 'outlet' - but we don't really play football which requires an outlet. At least to my eyes that's not what Mancini's play is about. Playing one forward supported by 3 players means that the forward needs to be incredibly versatile - and I think both Carlos and Balo are. It just seems odd to use his tendency to drop deep as a stick to beat him with. He has been the heartbeat of our team for two seasons now. Lets see how things pan out in the next few weeks whilst he's injured. It'll give us a good insight into how good a team we are without him...

 

[dtc78]

Sell him to inter, part exchange with schneider (champions league experienced and a guaranteed 10 goals from midfield), buy this sanchez guy and bobs your uncle.simple. ;)

 

[Any1aBlue]

Sell him to inter, part exchange with schneider (champions league experienced and a guaranteed 10 goals from midfield), buy this sanchez guy and bobs your uncle.simple. ;)

done deal - great business for us.

 

[QuickSilva]

obviously the cash for tevez will be spent on sanchez, but if we can include sneijder, that would be icing seeing how badly the rags want him