Tevez....

[IanBishopsHaircut]

The guy's a Grade A knobhead and needs to be got rid of ASAP.

BUT......................no one is bigger than Manchester City, and that cuts both ways; Manchester City's short-term interests far outweigh the need to prove a point to a stroppy Argentinian twat or to the wider football world as a whole. Therefore, if he's needed, he should be utilised. It would be madness to send ourselves into a self-imposed striker crisis out of sheer bloody mindedness.

We still get rid as soon as we can, but while he's here and being paid a fucking fortune, we should at least have him available to play IF we need him to.

Completely disagree

If we play him it will do more damage to the Manchester City brand than you can imagine

Mancini will look like a fool

And the club will be seen as a soft touch which will escalate into any player who wants to throw his rattle will do so knowing that no matter how much they take the piss we will back down.

The media would also destroy us

We need to make a stand against player power and we are probably the best placed club in the world to do so

So you'd play with no striker in a crucial Champions League or Premier League game if Aguero, Balo and Dzeko were all unavailable for some reason rather than use the guy we pay 250k a week to?

If they were the circumstances we were operating under, I couldn't give a shit what the media think. They'd love us to fuck ourselves up like that when deep down they'd know the sensible thing would be to play him.

And the chances of them all being injured at the same time are...

Carlos Tevez needs to be made an example of

Cave in and it sends the completely wrong message to every footballer from grass roots up

This isn't about his ability..this is about making a stand..and the club needs to be strong on this

We can survive without fatboy..we have before and we will in the future..no matter who is 'injured or unavailable'

 

[Dubai Blue]

And the chances of them all being injured at the same time are...

Well both Aguero and Dzeko were struggling last week and anything can happen with Balotelli.

If Mancini is considering bringing him back into training, it's because last week's situation probably scared the bejesus out of him. I'm not advocating Tevez coming in ahead of anyone, just that he is ready and available should the manager need him.

The club doesn't have a duty to anyone but itself and if that means bringing Tevez back into training so he's available to step in should disaster happen then so be it. All this 'taking a stand' stuff at the expense of our own potential success is just nonsense.

Edit: I meant to say that Aguero and Balotelli were struggling to be fit, not Aguero and Dzeko.

 

[tolmie's hairdoo]

The Souness statement on Al Jazeera is nothing new, it was reported last week about the meeting which took place at Mancini's home.

He simply reiterated it to Souness and some other people at the recent Northern Sports writers' dinner.

Mancini and City have to be seen to be doing everything by the book and attempting to be as reasonable as possible.

They know full well that Tevez won't back himself further into a corner with an apology that does not stop the disciplinary process.

Or an admission which confirms to other clubs what we already know, he's a lying ****.

We can't withdraw the basics, such a mediation, training facilities etc.

I suspect we'll let the game this weekend die down and then announce the findings of an increased fine.

There is talk of swap options already being offered to us in January.

For me, it would depend who they were.

 

[Plain Speaking]

The Souness statement on Al Jazeera is nothing new, it was reported last week about the meeting which took place at Mancini's home.

He simply reiterated it to Souness and some other people at the recent Northern Sports writers' dinner.

Mancini and City have to be seen to be doing everything by the book and attempting to be as reasonable as possible.

They know full well that Tevez won't back himself further into a corner with an apology that does not stop the disciplinary process.

Or an admission which confirms to other clubs what we already know, he's a lying ****.

We can't withdraw the basics, such a mediation, training facilities etc.

I suspect we'll let the game this weekend die down and then announce the findings of an increased fine.

There is talk of swap options already being offered to us in January.

For me, it would depend who they were.

Would you take Sneijder if offered?

 

[nijinskybell]

The Souness statement on Al Jazeera is nothing new, it was reported last week about the meeting which took place at Mancini's home.

He simply reiterated it to Souness and some other people at the recent Northern Sports writers' dinner.

Mancini and City have to be seen to be doing everything by the book and attempting to be as reasonable as possible.

They know full well that Tevez won't back himself further into a corner with an apology that does not stop the disciplinary process.

Or an admission which confirms to other clubs what we already know, he's a lying ****.

We can't withdraw the basics, such a mediation, training facilities etc.

I suspect we'll let the game this weekend die down and then announce the findings of an increased fine.

There is talk of swap options already being offered to us in January.

For me, it would depend who they were.

Cheers TH. Thought the Souness quote might have been 'old'

The Di Maria swap that was buzzing around a week or so ago might be interesting. We might still need to buy another central striker in Jan though.

 

[tolmie's hairdoo]

The Souness statement on Al Jazeera is nothing new, it was reported last week about the meeting which took place at Mancini's home.

He simply reiterated it to Souness and some other people at the recent Northern Sports writers' dinner.

Mancini and City have to be seen to be doing everything by the book and attempting to be as reasonable as possible.

They know full well that Tevez won't back himself further into a corner with an apology that does not stop the disciplinary process.

Or an admission which confirms to other clubs what we already know, he's a lying ****.

We can't withdraw the basics, such a mediation, training facilities etc.

I suspect we'll let the game this weekend die down and then announce the findings of an increased fine.

There is talk of swap options already being offered to us in January.

For me, it would depend who they were.

Would you take Sneijder if offered?

No way. If we are to swap, and the loss of straight cash to show on the books, it will have to be a player who is prepared to earn around £100k a week less than Tevez does now.

There's plenty of those people around - just not Sneijder.<br /><br />-- Thu Oct 20, 2011 10:18 am --<br /><br />

The Souness statement on Al Jazeera is nothing new, it was reported last week about the meeting which took place at Mancini's home.

He simply reiterated it to Souness and some other people at the recent Northern Sports writers' dinner.

Mancini and City have to be seen to be doing everything by the book and attempting to be as reasonable as possible.

They know full well that Tevez won't back himself further into a corner with an apology that does not stop the disciplinary process.

Or an admission which confirms to other clubs what we already know, he's a lying ****.

We can't withdraw the basics, such a mediation, training facilities etc.

I suspect we'll let the game this weekend die down and then announce the findings of an increased fine.

There is talk of swap options already being offered to us in January.

For me, it would depend who they were.

Cheers TH. Thought the Souness quote might have been 'old'

The Di Maria swap that was buzzing around a week or so ago might be interesting. We might still need to buy another central striker in Jan though.

The Souness quote is not old in the respect of the timeline. Just a more valid confirmation of what was being reported last week.

Can't see Di Maria when there are three people in Italy Mancini would give his eye teeth for tomorrow.

 

[nijinskybell]

The Souness statement on Al Jazeera is nothing new, it was reported last week about the meeting which took place at Mancini's home.

He simply reiterated it to Souness and some other people at the recent Northern Sports writers' dinner.

Mancini and City have to be seen to be doing everything by the book and attempting to be as reasonable as possible.

They know full well that Tevez won't back himself further into a corner with an apology that does not stop the disciplinary process.

Or an admission which confirms to other clubs what we already know, he's a lying ****.

We can't withdraw the basics, such a mediation, training facilities etc.

I suspect we'll let the game this weekend die down and then announce the findings of an increased fine.

There is talk of swap options already being offered to us in January.

For me, it would depend who they were.

Would you take Sneijder if offered?

No way. If we are to swap, and the loss of straight cash to show on the books, it will have to be a player who is prepared to earn around £100k a week less than Tevez does now.

There's plenty of those people around - just not Sneijder.

-- Thu Oct 20, 2011 10:18 am --

The Souness statement on Al Jazeera is nothing new, it was reported last week about the meeting which took place at Mancini's home.

He simply reiterated it to Souness and some other people at the recent Northern Sports writers' dinner.

Mancini and City have to be seen to be doing everything by the book and attempting to be as reasonable as possible.

They know full well that Tevez won't back himself further into a corner with an apology that does not stop the disciplinary process.

Or an admission which confirms to other clubs what we already know, he's a lying ****.

We can't withdraw the basics, such a mediation, training facilities etc.

I suspect we'll let the game this weekend die down and then announce the findings of an increased fine.

There is talk of swap options already being offered to us in January.

For me, it would depend who they were.

Cheers TH. Thought the Souness quote might have been 'old'

The Di Maria swap that was buzzing around a week or so ago might be interesting. We might still need to buy another central striker in Jan though.

The Souness quote is not old in the respect of the timeline. Just a more valid confirmation of what was being reported last week.

Can't see Di Maria when there are three people in Italy Mancini would give his eye teeth for tomorrow.

Handy that he will be going to Naples soon?

 

[moomba]

So you'd play with no striker in a crucial Champions League or Premier League game if Aguero, Balo and Dzeko were all unavailable for some reason rather than use the guy we pay 250k a week to?

I would, simply because we have no way of telling when the next time will be that he can't be arsed, or feels offended by the fact he isn't a first choice player.

As it stands, when he's had his opportunities this season he's done nothing to convince me that he deserves more.

 

[Impeccable]

Of course someone will pay 20 million plus for him. Despite his off field antics he is one of the best players in the world or have you all forgotten the goals he's scored for us over the past 2 years.
Reading some of these posts I wonder, have none of you ever done stupid things, I know I have. For goodness sake he didn't murder anyone. Move on, forgive and forget.
I wish Tevez luck wherever he goes and thank him for his big contribution to our beloved club.

He's a selfish prick.

LF, in no way I'm condoning his actions. And I agree it was a selfish thing to do.

However, can you just answer the following question with a 'Yes' or 'No'.

Have you ever done or said something on the spur of the moment, that may have caused you embarrassment or caused offence to someone else - this you may have later regretted?

 

[Mancio]

The Souness statement on Al Jazeera is nothing new, it was reported last week about the meeting which took place at Mancini's home.

He simply reiterated it to Souness and some other people at the recent Northern Sports writers' dinner.

Mancini and City have to be seen to be doing everything by the book and attempting to be as reasonable as possible.

They know full well that Tevez won't back himself further into a corner with an apology that does not stop the disciplinary process.

Or an admission which confirms to other clubs what we already know, he's a lying ****.

We can't withdraw the basics, such a mediation, training facilities etc.

I suspect we'll let the game this weekend die down and then announce the findings of an increased fine.

There is talk of swap options already being offered to us in January.

For me, it would depend who they were.

Would you take Sneijder if offered?

No way. If we are to swap, and the loss of straight cash to show on the books, it will have to be a player who is prepared to earn around £100k a week less than Tevez does now.

There's plenty of those people around - just not Sneijder.

-- Thu Oct 20, 2011 10:18 am --

The Souness statement on Al Jazeera is nothing new, it was reported last week about the meeting which took place at Mancini's home.

He simply reiterated it to Souness and some other people at the recent Northern Sports writers' dinner.

Mancini and City have to be seen to be doing everything by the book and attempting to be as reasonable as possible.

They know full well that Tevez won't back himself further into a corner with an apology that does not stop the disciplinary process.

Or an admission which confirms to other clubs what we already know, he's a lying ****.

We can't withdraw the basics, such a mediation, training facilities etc.

I suspect we'll let the game this weekend die down and then announce the findings of an increased fine.

There is talk of swap options already being offered to us in January.

For me, it would depend who they were.

Cheers TH. Thought the Souness quote might have been 'old'

The Di Maria swap that was buzzing around a week or so ago might be interesting. We might still need to buy another central striker in Jan though.

The Souness quote is not old in the respect of the timeline. Just a more valid confirmation of what was being reported last week.

Can't see Di Maria when there are three people in Italy Mancini would give his eye teeth for tomorrow.

unfortunally there are just a couple of clubs out there able to pay tevez wages

 

[i8rags]

imagine the scenario.
press conference to show off the greatest player ever to wear a football shirt, who is just about to sign for city.

"i will give my all for this club, until such time as i decide your town is shit and also i would like to go nearer to home if i get caught cheating and my wife will not forgive me, i will not learn your language and i will not get on with the manager, oh and one more thing, if after repeated requests to leave, you refuse, i will refuse to play for you ok".

would the gathered press stand and applaud such honesty, the waiting masses cheer loudly and sing the players name. i think not and that contract which is just about to be signed, would be rammed down his throat and he would be kicked back to what ever hole he crawled out of.

 

[IanBishopsHaircut]

Of course someone will pay 20 million plus for him. Despite his off field antics he is one of the best players in the world or have you all forgotten the goals he's scored for us over the past 2 years.
Reading some of these posts I wonder, have none of you ever done stupid things, I know I have. For goodness sake he didn't murder anyone. Move on, forgive and forget.
I wish Tevez luck wherever he goes and thank him for his big contribution to our beloved club.

He's a selfish prick.

LF, in no way I'm condoning his actions. And I agree it was a selfish thing to do.

However, can you just answer the following question with a 'Yes' or 'No'.

Have you ever done or said something on the spur of the moment, that may have caused you embarrassment or caused offence to someone else - this you may have later regretted?

It's not spur of the moment though is it?

I'ts not just the refusal to come on in Munich..his name was already shit previous to that..personally I never forgave him after chucking in that transfer request out of the blue

 

[CaptainCarlos]

The Souness statement on Al Jazeera is nothing new, it was reported last week about the meeting which took place at Mancini's home.

He simply reiterated it to Souness and some other people at the recent Northern Sports writers' dinner.

Mancini and City have to be seen to be doing everything by the book and attempting to be as reasonable as possible.

They know full well that Tevez won't back himself further into a corner with an apology that does not stop the disciplinary process.

Or an admission which confirms to other clubs what we already know, he's a lying ****.

We can't withdraw the basics, such a mediation, training facilities etc.

I suspect we'll let the game this weekend die down and then announce the findings of an increased fine.

There is talk of swap options already being offered to us in January.

For me, it would depend who they were.

Would you take Sneijder if offered?

No way. If we are to swap, and the loss of straight cash to show on the books, it will have to be a player who is prepared to earn around £100k a week less than Tevez does now.

There's plenty of those people around - just not Sneijder.

-- Thu Oct 20, 2011 10:18 am --

The Souness statement on Al Jazeera is nothing new, it was reported last week about the meeting which took place at Mancini's home.

He simply reiterated it to Souness and some other people at the recent Northern Sports writers' dinner.

Mancini and City have to be seen to be doing everything by the book and attempting to be as reasonable as possible.

They know full well that Tevez won't back himself further into a corner with an apology that does not stop the disciplinary process.

Or an admission which confirms to other clubs what we already know, he's a lying ****.

We can't withdraw the basics, such a mediation, training facilities etc.

I suspect we'll let the game this weekend die down and then announce the findings of an increased fine.

There is talk of swap options already being offered to us in January.

For me, it would depend who they were.

Cheers TH. Thought the Souness quote might have been 'old'

The Di Maria swap that was buzzing around a week or so ago might be interesting. We might still need to buy another central striker in Jan though.

The Souness quote is not old in the respect of the timeline. Just a more valid confirmation of what was being reported last week.

Can't see Di Maria when there are three people in Italy Mancini would give his eye teeth for tomorrow.

Lavezzi, Hamsik and Cavani?? Napoli cant afford Tevez's wages..

 

[Lancet Fluke]

He's a selfish prick.

LF, in no way I'm condoning his actions. And I agree it was a selfish thing to do.

However, can you just answer the following question with a 'Yes' or 'No'.

Have you ever done or said something on the spur of the moment, that may have caused you embarrassment or caused offence to someone else - this you may have later regretted?

It's not spur of the moment though is it?

I'ts not just the refusal to come on in Munich..his name was already shit previous to that..personally I never forgave him after chucking in that transfer request out of the blue

I think I would have answered with something similar. It may have been spur of the moment in one sense ie. he saw it kicking off with Dzeko and saw his opportunity to undermine Mancini further and very publicly but I get the feeling that he has spent the last year looking for opportunities to be a pain in the arse to the club at the worst moments possible, so in that sense it was premediated. Also, if his refusal to apologise when offered an olive branch is true then it suggests to me that he is comfortable with his actions. I wouldn't play him again, even if he was the only striker available, I don't think. It may be a short term fix but the longer term implications for Mancini's authority in the dressing room could be disastrous. It would be a false economy if you like. It will be up to Mancini though and I trust his judgement by and large.

 

[Plain Speaking]

unfortunally there are just a couple of clubs out there able to pay tevez wages

PSG, Anzhi Makhachkala, Malaga, Inter, Real(?), Corinthians (??) any others?

 

[southstandblue27]

unfortunally there are just a couple of clubs out there able to pay tevez wages

PSG, Anzhi Makhachkala, Malaga, Inter, Real(?), Corinthians (??) any others?

Bayern, Chelsea, AC, Juventus

 

[hgblue]

The Souness statement on Al Jazeera is nothing new, it was reported last week about the meeting which took place at Mancini's home.

He simply reiterated it to Souness and some other people at the recent Northern Sports writers' dinner.

Mancini and City have to be seen to be doing everything by the book and attempting to be as reasonable as possible.

They know full well that Tevez won't back himself further into a corner with an apology that does not stop the disciplinary process.

Or an admission which confirms to other clubs what we already know, he's a lying ****.

We can't withdraw the basics, such a mediation, training facilities etc.

I suspect we'll let the game this weekend die down and then announce the findings of an increased fine.

There is talk of swap options already being offered to us in January.

For me, it would depend who they were.

Would you take Sneijder if offered?

No way. If we are to swap, and the loss of straight cash to show on the books, it will have to be a player who is prepared to earn around £100k a week less than Tevez does now.

There's plenty of those people around - just not Sneijder.

-- Thu Oct 20, 2011 10:18 am --

The Souness statement on Al Jazeera is nothing new, it was reported last week about the meeting which took place at Mancini's home.

He simply reiterated it to Souness and some other people at the recent Northern Sports writers' dinner.

Mancini and City have to be seen to be doing everything by the book and attempting to be as reasonable as possible.

They know full well that Tevez won't back himself further into a corner with an apology that does not stop the disciplinary process.

Or an admission which confirms to other clubs what we already know, he's a lying ****.

We can't withdraw the basics, such a mediation, training facilities etc.

I suspect we'll let the game this weekend die down and then announce the findings of an increased fine.

There is talk of swap options already being offered to us in January.

For me, it would depend who they were.

Cheers TH. Thought the Souness quote might have been 'old'

The Di Maria swap that was buzzing around a week or so ago might be interesting. We might still need to buy another central striker in Jan though.

The Souness quote is not old in the respect of the timeline. Just a more valid confirmation of what was being reported last week.

Can't see Di Maria when there are three people in Italy Mancini would give his eye teeth for tomorrow.

Is Ibra one of them?

 

[sweep]

LF, in no way I'm condoning his actions. And I agree it was a selfish thing to do.

However, can you just answer the following question with a 'Yes' or 'No'.

Have you ever done or said something on the spur of the moment, that may have caused you embarrassment or caused offence to someone else - this you may have later regretted?

It's not spur of the moment though is it?

I'ts not just the refusal to come on in Munich..his name was already shit previous to that..personally I never forgave him after chucking in that transfer request out of the blue

I think I would have answered with something similar. It may have been spur of the moment in one sense ie. he saw it kicking off with Dzeko and saw his opportunity to undermine Mancini further and very publicly but I get the feeling that he has spent the last year looking for opportunities to be a pain in the arse to the club at the worst moments possible, so in that sense it was premediated. Also, if his refusal to apologise when offered an olive branch is true then it suggests to me that he is comfortable with his actions. I wouldn't play him again, even if he was the only striker available, I don't think. It may be a short term fix but the longer term implications for Mancini's authority in the dressing room could be disastrous. It would be a false economy if you like. It will be up to Mancini though and I trust his judgement by and large.

Fully agree, the more shit he pulls the more premeditated it appears. I now believe he would do absolutely anything at any opportunity to force himself out of the club at a reduced fee, so there's no way I would trust him with a shirt, even if he bothered to enter the field I doubt he'd do anything positive.

 

[buckshot]

I think Tevez would tank on purpose if he got another chance. He's a moron who is so delusional that he thinks the team has somehow wronged him. If the score was tied and he had a shot at an open net in the last minute he'd sail it over the bar just to be a dick.

 

[LoveCity]

Edu claims in the Brazilian media that we're so desperate to get rid of him we're asking only £17.5m (but a sell-on clause).