Thatcher dead

[Rascal]

Ship builders a bit like the papers.

The far east workers would have one man to cut and fit a port hole. The uk got.

1 guy to mark the hole.
another one to drill the template
another one would then come and cut the template using the drill guides
another one would then clean the opening so the port hole could be fitted
another one would come and fit the surround in the opening
another one would then rivet the hole
one would then come and fit the glass
finally another would come and inspect the work.

8 people doing the job of 1 on western wages compared to far east.

Oh and ship building was a closed shop to only jobs for the boys.

Reminds me of Banking.

A closed shop of Bullingdon boys

1 Banker invents a scam
1 banker sells the scam
1 banker buys the scam
1 banker sells the scam again
1 banker hides the money off shore
1 banker gives them all huge bonuses

All bankers then drink Champers in posh City of London bar

 

[robbieh]

Ship builders a bit like the papers.

The far east workers would have one man to cut and fit a port hole. The uk got.

1 guy to mark the hole.
another one to drill the template
another one would then come and cut the template using the drill guides
another one would then clean the opening so the port hole could be fitted
another one would come and fit the surround in the opening
another one would then rivet the hole
one would then come and fit the glass
finally another would come and inspect the work.

8 people doing the job of 1 on western wages compared to far east.

Oh and ship building was a closed shop to only jobs for the boys.

Reminds me of Banking.

A closed shop of Bullingdon boys

1 Banker invents a scam
1 banker sells the scam
1 banker buys the scam
1 banker sells the scam again
1 banker hides the money off shore
1 banker gives them all huge bonuses

All bankers then drink Champers in posh City of London bar

Spot on.

 

[mcmanus]

When Jeremy Clarkson has been invited to your funeral you must have been a twat.

 

[crystal_mais]

Ship builders a bit like the papers.

The far east workers would have one man to cut and fit a port hole. The uk got.

1 guy to mark the hole.
another one to drill the template
another one would then come and cut the template using the drill guides
another one would then clean the opening so the port hole could be fitted
another one would come and fit the surround in the opening
another one would then rivet the hole
one would then come and fit the glass
finally another would come and inspect the work.

8 people doing the job of 1 on western wages compared to far east.

Oh and ship building was a closed shop to only jobs for the boys.

Reminds me of Banking.

A closed shop of Bullingdon boys

1 Banker invents a scam
1 banker sells the scam
1 banker buys the scam
1 banker sells the scam again
1 banker hides the money off shore
1 banker gives them all huge bonuses

All bankers then drink Champers in posh City of London bar

You make me laugh with some of the crap you spout

 

[metalblue]

Ship builders a bit like the papers.

The far east workers would have one man to cut and fit a port hole. The uk got.

1 guy to mark the hole.
another one to drill the template
another one would then come and cut the template using the drill guides
another one would then clean the opening so the port hole could be fitted
another one would come and fit the surround in the opening
another one would then rivet the hole
one would then come and fit the glass
finally another would come and inspect the work.

8 people doing the job of 1 on western wages compared to far east.

Oh and ship building was a closed shop to only jobs for the boys.

Reminds me of Banking.

A closed shop of Bullingdon boys

1 Banker invents a scam
1 banker sells the scam
1 banker buys the scam
1 banker sells the scam again
1 banker hides the money off shore
1 banker gives them all huge bonuses

All bankers then drink Champers in posh City of London bar

Spot on.

It's not as glamourous as it sounds, its like ground hog day by the time Wednesday comes around and you've already done 3 crates of dom perignon while being a letch to some Eastern European waitress.

 

[mancityvstoke]

8 people doing the job of 1 on western wages compared to far east.

Oh and ship building was a closed shop to only jobs for the boys.



I was 8 at the time of the miners strike so I do not have an opinion on the woman one way or another (as I saw no harm to my family because of her)

So you'd rather we sacked 7 workers and put them on the dole? Then pay the one left a low wage?

Your Dad had issues with Unions like my 89 year old Father still does and most probably rightly so back then BUT I assume your Dad had a steady well paying job (in a closed shop) so of course he had no issues.

Just remember that SOME people did NOT do well. Something most people are forgetting.

 

[crystal_mais]

8 people doing the job of 1 on western wages compared to far east.

Oh and ship building was a closed shop to only jobs for the boys.



I was 8 at the time of the miners strike so I do not have an opinion on the woman one way or another (as I saw no harm to my family because of her)

So you'd rather we sacked 7 workers and put them on the dole? Then pay the one left a low wage?

Your Dad had issues with Unions like my 89 year old Father still does and most probably rightly so back then BUT I assume your Dad had a steady well paying job (in a closed shop) so of course he had no issues.

Just remember that SOME people did NOT do well. Something most people are forgetting.

It's called process optimisation which should lead to efficiency savings. At that time these were nationalised industries which ultimately would have become too costly to run by the govt with little returns on the investment due to cost and quality.

Like I and a few others had mentioned earlier. If Thatcher didn't do it, the subsequent Labour or Conservative Governments would have had to have done it.

My mother ended up out of work and my father had to work hard to support us. We were all impacted. I spoke to him about it yesterday and his comments were although they were tough decisions that she made and my parents hated it at the time, they were ultimately the right decisions.

Appreciate some didn't do well - they were hard times. I was a teenager during this time.

Choices are made which impact people in different ways. I don't get all the shit thrown at the moment regarding the current policies to reduce debt. It's easy for say Labour to criticise the current policies as they are not making the decisions. Would have been interesting to see how they would have managed this recession. Bed of roses or not.. Who knows

 

[mancityvstoke]

8 people doing the job of 1 on western wages compared to far east.

Oh and ship building was a closed shop to only jobs for the boys.



I was 8 at the time of the miners strike so I do not have an opinion on the woman one way or another (as I saw no harm to my family because of her)

So you'd rather we sacked 7 workers and put them on the dole? Then pay the one left a low wage?

Your Dad had issues with Unions like my 89 year old Father still does and most probably rightly so back then BUT I assume your Dad had a steady well paying job (in a closed shop) so of course he had no issues.

Just remember that SOME people did NOT do well. Something most people are forgetting.

It's called process optimisation which should lead to efficiency savings. At that time these were nationalised industries which ultimately would have become too costly to run by the govt with little returns on the investment due to cost and quality.

Like I and a few others had mentioned earlier. If Thatcher didn't do it, the subsequent Labour or Conservative Governments would have had to have done it.

My mother ended up out of work and my father had to work hard to support us. We were all impacted. I spoke to him about it yesterday and his comments were although they were tough decisions that she made and my parents hated it at the time, they were ultimately the right decisions.

Call it whatever fancy term you like. It is wrong to shit on people in the name of profit.

Just my opinion like.

 

[crystal_mais]

So you'd rather we sacked 7 workers and put them on the dole? Then pay the one left a low wage?

Your Dad had issues with Unions like my 89 year old Father still does and most probably rightly so back then BUT I assume your Dad had a steady well paying job (in a closed shop) so of course he had no issues.

Just remember that SOME people did NOT do well. Something most people are forgetting.

It's called process optimisation which should lead to efficiency savings. At that time these were nationalised industries which ultimately would have become too costly to run by the govt with little returns on the investment due to cost and quality.

Like I and a few others had mentioned earlier. If Thatcher didn't do it, the subsequent Labour or Conservative Governments would have had to have done it.

My mother ended up out of work and my father had to work hard to support us. We were all impacted. I spoke to him about it yesterday and his comments were although they were tough decisions that she made and my parents hated it at the time, they were ultimately the right decisions.

Call it whatever fancy term you like. It is wrong to shit on people in the name of profit.

Just my opinion like.

One way at looking at it. It's hard but its the way the world is - why start a business if you can't make a profit.

Ultimately these industries would have ended up making substantial losses and would have led to bankrupcy - which ultimately may have brought the government to it's knees. People would have lost their jobs with no redundancy payments.

More threats in loss making businesses which go into administration

 

[mancityvstoke]

It's called process optimisation which should lead to efficiency savings. At that time these were nationalised industries which ultimately would have become too costly to run by the govt with little returns on the investment due to cost and quality.

Like I and a few others had mentioned earlier. If Thatcher didn't do it, the subsequent Labour or Conservative Governments would have had to have done it.

My mother ended up out of work and my father had to work hard to support us. We were all impacted. I spoke to him about it yesterday and his comments were although they were tough decisions that she made and my parents hated it at the time, they were ultimately the right decisions.

Call it whatever fancy term you like. It is wrong to shit on people in the name of profit.

Just my opinion like.

One way at looking at it. It's hard but its the way the world is - why start a business if you can't make a profit.

Ultimately these industries would have ended up making substantial losses and would have led to bankrupcy - which ultimately may have brought the government to it's knees. People would have lost their jobs with no redundancy payments.

More threats in loss making businesses which go into administration

I agree..it's a tough system and flawed in my opinion. It may change one day.


I'll be dead and gone then though probably.

This thread is about Thatcher (ism) and I am only trying to balance things a bit saying that some did well and some didn't.

I don't care whether she is alive or dead. Her time as Prime Minister is long gone as is she now.

We have a new world to deal with and even tougher issues. It's a shame that poorer people always seem to suffer more.