Thatcher dead

[remember arthur mann]

"Vengeance is mine, I will repay sayeth the Lord"

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

This whole week has been a farce.

Celebrating the death of a old woman.
People who weren't born in her premiership out celebrating.

Welcome to bandwagon jumping faux pas outrage Britain in 2013.

Why exactly? Thatcher might be dead (pity she was ever born), but Thatcherism is alive, well and living in Downing Street now.
Just because you might not have been born when your family had the livelihood stolen by the witch, does not mean that you do not know the pain and suffering her policies caused.

So no mines, factories, steelworks or other companies ever shut under a Labour government?

 

[DelToro]

I agree. The death of Thatcher has reminded many that the Tory party is and always has been a party, of the rich for the rich by the rich.

Personally feel Attlee's legacy of the National Health service was far superior to anything Thatcher bequeathed to the nation.

Great post. Attlee left something, no matter how flawed, that was for the benefit of the whole country generation after generation.

Thatcher has no such legacy.

Which is not true, fact of the matter is without her and the painful economic medicine we had to take (there is no denying the pain of it) we would have been in a worse position than the poor Greeks!

All this nonsense she destroyed manufacturing, written by people who don't tend to realise that in order to manufacture you have to have a product that people want to buy, and people did not want to buy from us (we did not even what to buy from us), therefore the government was not getting any tax returns in order to prop up said manufacturing, anyhow plenty of companies did survive and prospered, most of the poor ones got swept away.

She did not start with a fully functioning country, we were up shit creek without a paddle, and something had to be done.

It does seem they people are getting caught up in the hatred hype, perhaps it's the cool thing to do, but I have not read one word of this thread that has convinced me that on the whole (and there are quite a few exceptions) she was good for this country

On another note Ducado, you've come over all de Niro in this post.

Has someone stole your identity?

 

[Ducado]

And still not one alternative has been offered, we were a bankrupt country, not only that we had Unions that were hell bent on ruining the country, rather than benefiting their members, we were the basket case of Europe<br /><br />-- Fri Apr 12, 2013 9:53 pm --<br /><br />

Great post. Attlee left something, no matter how flawed, that was for the benefit of the whole country generation after generation.

Thatcher has no such legacy.

Which is not true, fact of the matter is without her and the painful economic medicine we had to take (there is no denying the pain of it) we would have been in a worse position than the poor Greeks!

All this nonsense she destroyed manufacturing, written by people who don't tend to realise that in order to manufacture you have to have a product that people want to buy, and people did not want to buy from us (we did not even what to buy from us), therefore the government was not getting any tax returns in order to prop up said manufacturing, anyhow plenty of companies did survive and prospered, most of the poor ones got swept away.

She did not start with a fully functioning country, we were up shit creek without a paddle, and something had to be done.

It does seem they people are getting caught up in the hatred hype, perhaps it's the cool thing to do, but I have not read one word of this thread that has convinced me that on the whole (and there are quite a few exceptions) she was good for this country

On another note Ducado, you've come over all de Niro in this post.

Has someone stole your identity?

I am more to the centre when it comes to politics with slight leanings to the right, I dislike extreme of left or right, in fact in anything, I always think there are other ways of seeing things, mental flexibility and having an open mind, it's the key to learning and understanding

 

[Rascal]

It would only be a few bitter old lefties in attendance though

Not once in this thread have i said i would personally celebrate the death of an old lady and not once have i condoned those who will.

Im not bitter about what she did as she had the right as she was democratically elected to pursue her agenda.

My views are of the left and the one thing i can never understand is how can any politician of any party lack empathy with the people they represent.

I understood one nation conservatism, i didnt agree with it but i understood it, i never got where the Thatcher came from, I dont get were this govt. comes from, why are they hurting the poorest like Thatcher did.. How the fuck can any of them sleep at night?

Its beyond me

 

[remember arthur mann]

And still not one alternative has been offered, we were a bankrupt country, not only that we had Unions that were hell bent on ruining the country, rather than benefiting their members, we were the basket case of Europe

-- Fri Apr 12, 2013 9:53 pm --

Which is not true, fact of the matter is without her and the painful economic medicine we had to take (there is no denying the pain of it) we would have been in a worse position than the poor Greeks!

All this nonsense she destroyed manufacturing, written by people who don't tend to realise that in order to manufacture you have to have a product that people want to buy, and people did not want to buy from us (we did not even what to buy from us), therefore the government was not getting any tax returns in order to prop up said manufacturing, anyhow plenty of companies did survive and prospered, most of the poor ones got swept away.

She did not start with a fully functioning country, we were up shit creek without a paddle, and something had to be done.

It does seem they people are getting caught up in the hatred hype, perhaps it's the cool thing to do, but I have not read one word of this thread that has convinced me that on the whole (and there are quite a few exceptions) she was good for this country

On another note Ducado, you've come over all de Niro in this post.

Has someone stole your identity?

I am more to the centre when it comes to politics with slight leanings to the right, I dislike extreme of left or right, in fact in anything, I always think there are other ways of seeing things, mental flexibility and having an open mind, it's the key to learning and understanding

There seems to be be a slight imbalance on bluemoon, it appears that the moderators come across as right wing journos!

 

[Blue Til Death]

I'm a leftie and I wouldn't dream of either disrupting her funeral or going to 'death' parties.

There's a line that should never be stepped over in my opinion,because to do so dehumanises the participant.

Politics should be left to one side at some point.

Good post. I believe it's about being a decent human being. Some trully awful hate filled bile has been posted on this thread, and I think some posters should hang their heads in shame (I think some, in a quiet moment of contemplation, would probably regret saying some of the stuff they have - in fact there hasn't been as much bile recently so maybe it's happened already?).

Mack, not often I disagree with you, but will have to do so here. When the nutjobs in the media etc are trying to portray the witch as some sort of saint, when we are having to face cut after cut (quite a few down to her failed policies, and tory lite's shameful neglect in changing them), are faced with a bill of £10 MILLION just to get rid of the witch, for the same funeral arrangements as Her Majesty the Queen Mother, a woman who was loved by most and respected by nearly all, and the Princess Of Wales, again held in very high regard by the overwhelming majority of the nation, then something HAS to be said and done.
After a couple of seconds quiet contemplation, I have thought about malg's post and have decided that no, I do not regret a single word of what I have said or posted either here or on other sites on the internet or in people I have been speaking to.

DING DONG THE WITCH IS DEAD, tramp the witch down.

She will get what she deserves, and the respect that she shown the working class of the United Kingdom while she was in power, are now showing her the same respect.

Read your own post.. nutjob not even close to your poorly uninformed childish ranting... You need to grow the fuck up. If you think the way ahead when she took over was more of the same economic suicide Labour were presiding over, you are either deluded, do not understand economics or just repeat parrot fashion what you hear from the other labour apologists on here. Have your opinion by all means but at least try and have an informed one before you want to celebrate the death of someone

 

[Ducado]

And still not one alternative has been offered, we were a bankrupt country, not only that we had Unions that were hell bent on ruining the country, rather than benefiting their members, we were the basket case of Europe

-- Fri Apr 12, 2013 9:53 pm --

On another note Ducado, you've come over all de Niro in this post.

Has someone stole your identity?

I am more to the centre when it comes to politics with slight leanings to the right, I dislike extreme of left or right, in fact in anything, I always think there are other ways of seeing things, mental flexibility and having an open mind, it's the key to learning and understanding

There seems to be be a slight imbalance on bluemoon, it appears that the moderators come across as right wing journos!

Don't mix up our opinions with moderating the forum, first and foremost we members of bluemoon, we just help the forum run smoothly, apart from that we are no different than other posters

 

[Rascal]

Don't mix up our opinions with moderating the forum, first and foremost we members of bluemoon, we just help the forum run smoothly, apart from that we are no different than other posters

Generally though you are all right wing whacko nutjobs to be fair

Ric was a Socialist once bet he supports UKIP now

The days of Socialist modding of BM are long gone

 

[Ducado]

Don't mix up our opinions with moderating the forum, first and foremost we members of bluemoon, we just help the forum run smoothly, apart from that we are no different than other posters

Generally though you are all right wing whacko nutjobs to be fair

Ric was a Socialist once bet he supports UKIP now

The days of Socialist modding of BM are long gone

He is one of those champagne socialists now