Thatcher dead

[Banned Tosspot]

Just a couple of points I'd like to make .
The alternatives to Thatcher were Michael Foot . . . imagine that tramp representing Great Britain .
Or Neil Kinnock . . . an absolute political buffoon .
People celebrating her death who weren't even born or of voting age when she stood for power . . . . Try working out your own views instead of your Dad's .
Glenda Jackson . What a jealous woman ? Just because she and her party couldn't get near her . MP for Hampstead and Kilburn . Hardly areas which were affected by pit closures and run down steelworks . Sad that she has to spout her vile taunts about a woman that constantly wiped the political floor with her . She should show more respect to an opponent that was always streets ahead of her .
I see Labour have another fantastic candidate in the ultra boring and policyless Milliband . . . Heaven help us .

Excellent Post!

what a load of rose tinted tory drivel

Maybe, but it's better than socialist drivel.

 

[yerwot?]

Excellent Post!

what a load of rose tinted tory drivel

Maybe, but it's better than socialist drivel.

Our drivel is better than yours time to end the thread, shirley
shirley

 

[Banned Tosspot]

what a load of rose tinted tory drivel

Maybe, but it's better than socialist drivel.

Our drivel is better than yours time to end the thread, shirley
shirley

At least you've admitted it's drivel whereas I'm just acting.

 

[Carstairs]

Our drivel is better than yours time to end the thread, shirley
shirley

I've seen some rubbish posted on the internet, but this is a biscuit-taking masterpiece.

 

[law74]

Regarding the view that she fucked over the working classes, how do you define working class anyway? I'd imagine many millions of people came under the "working class" bracket and plenty of them certainly did get a raw deal as evidenced by the huge rise in unemployment figures in the early part of her reign.

However, millions more ordinary working class people must've done well for themselves while she was PM because how else do we explain why she convincingly won 3 elections on the bounce? Not everyone that voted for her was an upper class snob because those types of people would've always voted Tory anyway so she must've garnered a huge chunk of support from other, less well off, backgrounds. The figures just don't seem to stack up otherwise.

I'll add that I'm on the fence regarding Thatcher - if anything the one policy of hers that affected me the most was the Poll Tax which blew a huge hole in the low wage I was on at the time so I'm far from an apologist of hers. I just see the pros and cons of her reign and am largely indifferent to it all.

Due to the splits in the broad left, many of the tory MP's elected during this period were there as the alternative votes were so divided, and some seen the right to buy their houses, or shares in their power provider as a good sign, not realising the extend of the problems that would arise in future years due to the selling off of these utilities, and the refusal to allow the money raised through the sale of social housing to update, improve and increase the range of social housing.

 

[Ducado]

Regarding the view that she fucked over the working classes, how do you define working class anyway? I'd imagine many millions of people came under the "working class" bracket and plenty of them certainly did get a raw deal as evidenced by the huge rise in unemployment figures in the early part of her reign.

However, millions more ordinary working class people must've done well for themselves while she was PM because how else do we explain why she convincingly won 3 elections on the bounce? Not everyone that voted for her was an upper class snob because those types of people would've always voted Tory anyway so she must've garnered a huge chunk of support from other, less well off, backgrounds. The figures just don't seem to stack up otherwise.

I'll add that I'm on the fence regarding Thatcher - if anything the one policy of hers that affected me the most was the Poll Tax which blew a huge hole in the low wage I was on at the time so I'm far from an apologist of hers. I just see the pros and cons of her reign and am largely indifferent to it all.

Due to the splits in the broad left, many of the tory MP's elected during this period were there as the alternative votes were so divided, and some seen the right to buy their houses, or shares in their power provider as a good sign, not realising the extend of the problems that would arise in future years due to the selling off of these utilities, and the refusal to allow the money raised through the sale of social housing to update, improve and increase the range of social housing.

LOL!

 

[yerwot?]

Maybe, but it's better than socialist drivel.

Our drivel is better than yours time to end the thread, shirley
shirley

At least you've admitted it's drivel whereas I'm just acting.

Admitted nothing, just repeating the last two posts

Sardonic, laconic, whatever, it was high-lighting the playground level of debate. hence "time to close the thread" . Sheesh

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

what a load of rose tinted tory drivel

It's not complete drivel:

The alternatives to Thatcher were Michael Foot . . . imagine that tramp representing Great Britain .

To the American it was incredible that this man who looked like an eccentric professor of ornithology could run for Prime Minister.

Norman Mailer on Michael Foot.

 

[smudgedj]

Anyone looking forward to the kettling tonight?

 

[Anonymous]

Interesting programme on channel 4 at the moment.

Thatcher is a topic of conversation that im certainly no expert on and at the moment im struggling to see what it is she did so wrong. It seems most things were done with the intension of the greater good.

Im open to an explanation if i am wrong but thats what im thinking at the moment.