Thatcher, The Falklands & Jimmy Saville

Skashion said:
mcmanus said:
I liked his homely, all American smile. But every time I try to picture him it's Patrick fucking Swayze in a rubber mask robbing a bank.
I really do have a soft spot for him. I wrote an essay on nuclear weapons and the end of the Cold War during university and the way people who worked with him described him was hilarious. My girlfriend on the other hand hated him because for some reason I did my reading and wrote my essays from 12 to about 4 in the morning, and I woke her up a few times laughing at him falling asleep during conferences, watching cartoons when he should have been reading briefings etc. A bit like a Balotelli in the White House. Any road, Reagan absolutely hated nuclear weapons. Hated them. He thought it was completely morally wrong that we could annihilate people so easily and so quickly. He wanted the world to disarm, and the reason he loved the Strategic Defence Initiative (Star Wars) is because he wanted everyone to be safe from them forever. He would have give the Russians the technology. I'm certain of it, had it worked of course. The bit that really made me laugh though, was when his advisers realised, shit, Reagan's serious about this. They thought he was playing a masterful bluff with the Russians but at Reykjavik they had a sudden 'oh fuck, he means it' moment. I've read it three or four times from different people, it's hilarious. You can visualise the reaction. You can see them shit themselves. That's why I have that soft spot for him. He actually had the balls, and enough of a heart, to want to do something great for the human race, to guarantee their safety from their own stupidity. I really like that about him. It doesn't atone for his other sins fully, but I believe Reagan had a heart. I also believe his stupidity means he's more blameless for his evils than Thatcher. I do not believe she had a heart. She was not a warm person at all. Reagan definitely had a warmth, a human touch, that Thatcher simply didn't.

A good post but do you not think Reaganomics influenced Thatcher and persuaded her the right thing to do was push through her far right agenda. The tax cutting agenda they started is arguably the reaon for todays financial meltdown
 
Rascal said:
Skashion said:
mcmanus said:
I liked his homely, all American smile. But every time I try to picture him it's Patrick fucking Swayze in a rubber mask robbing a bank.
I really do have a soft spot for him. I wrote an essay on nuclear weapons and the end of the Cold War during university and the way people who worked with him described him was hilarious. My girlfriend on the other hand hated him because for some reason I did my reading and wrote my essays from 12 to about 4 in the morning, and I woke her up a few times laughing at him falling asleep during conferences, watching cartoons when he should have been reading briefings etc. A bit like a Balotelli in the White House. Any road, Reagan absolutely hated nuclear weapons. Hated them. He thought it was completely morally wrong that we could annihilate people so easily and so quickly. He wanted the world to disarm, and the reason he loved the Strategic Defence Initiative (Star Wars) is because he wanted everyone to be safe from them forever. He would have give the Russians the technology. I'm certain of it, had it worked of course. The bit that really made me laugh though, was when his advisers realised, shit, Reagan's serious about this. They thought he was playing a masterful bluff with the Russians but at Reykjavik they had a sudden 'oh fuck, he means it' moment. I've read it three or four times from different people, it's hilarious. You can visualise the reaction. You can see them shit themselves. That's why I have that soft spot for him. He actually had the balls, and enough of a heart, to want to do something great for the human race, to guarantee their safety from their own stupidity. I really like that about him. It doesn't atone for his other sins fully, but I believe Reagan had a heart. I also believe his stupidity means he's more blameless for his evils than Thatcher. I do not believe she had a heart. She was not a warm person at all. Reagan definitely had a warmth, a human touch, that Thatcher simply didn't.

A good post but do you not think Reaganomics influenced Thatcher and persuaded her the right thing to do was push through her far right agenda. The tax cutting agenda they started is arguably the reaon for todays financial meltdown

LOL that Thatcher was to blame for Labour’s abysmal failure to regulate the banks properly.
 
buzzer1 said:
Blue2112 said:
New documents released today reveal President Reagan tried on countless occasions to stop her from going to war in the Falklands. There's also letters from Saville to Thatch referring to 'his girl patients' when telling Thatch they all wanted to know what she was wearing when they had dinner together.

The file also reveals a discussion on Savile's suggestions about tax deductions for charitable donations. He certainly had a line straight to the top no wonder he got away with so fucking much abuse (Not saying Maggie knew by the way).

Just heard it all on radio 4, i don't know if you can podcast it or something but it was on at around half ten until half 11.

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/jimmy-savile/9767912/Savile-declared-love-for-Margaret-Thatcher-in-handwritten-letter.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/ ... etter.html</a>

Nah.

The full story of the war and Jimmy is based on the 30 year rule and was explored in detail on radio 4 today programme - 7am to 9am.

If you never listen to radio 4 or today, this week is always interesting with guest editors.

Melinda Gates this morning.<br /><br />-- Fri Dec 28, 2012 11:48 pm --<br /><br />
Rascal said:
Skashion said:
mcmanus said:
I liked his homely, all American smile. But every time I try to picture him it's Patrick fucking Swayze in a rubber mask robbing a bank.
I really do have a soft spot for him. I wrote an essay on nuclear weapons and the end of the Cold War during university and the way people who worked with him described him was hilarious. My girlfriend on the other hand hated him because for some reason I did my reading and wrote my essays from 12 to about 4 in the morning, and I woke her up a few times laughing at him falling asleep during conferences, watching cartoons when he should have been reading briefings etc. A bit like a Balotelli in the White House. Any road, Reagan absolutely hated nuclear weapons. Hated them. He thought it was completely morally wrong that we could annihilate people so easily and so quickly. He wanted the world to disarm, and the reason he loved the Strategic Defence Initiative (Star Wars) is because he wanted everyone to be safe from them forever. He would have give the Russians the technology. I'm certain of it, had it worked of course. The bit that really made me laugh though, was when his advisers realised, shit, Reagan's serious about this. They thought he was playing a masterful bluff with the Russians but at Reykjavik they had a sudden 'oh fuck, he means it' moment. I've read it three or four times from different people, it's hilarious. You can visualise the reaction. You can see them shit themselves. That's why I have that soft spot for him. He actually had the balls, and enough of a heart, to want to do something great for the human race, to guarantee their safety from their own stupidity. I really like that about him. It doesn't atone for his other sins fully, but I believe Reagan had a heart. I also believe his stupidity means he's more blameless for his evils than Thatcher. I do not believe she had a heart. She was not a warm person at all. Reagan definitely had a warmth, a human touch, that Thatcher simply didn't.

A good post but do you not think Reaganomics influenced Thatcher and persuaded her the right thing to do was push through her far right agenda. The tax cutting agenda they started is arguably the reaon for todays financial meltdown

Sorry Skashion, but you must be wumming here.
 
Rascal said:
Skashion said:
mcmanus said:
I liked his homely, all American smile. But every time I try to picture him it's Patrick fucking Swayze in a rubber mask robbing a bank.
I really do have a soft spot for him. I wrote an essay on nuclear weapons and the end of the Cold War during university and the way people who worked with him described him was hilarious. My girlfriend on the other hand hated him because for some reason I did my reading and wrote my essays from 12 to about 4 in the morning, and I woke her up a few times laughing at him falling asleep during conferences, watching cartoons when he should have been reading briefings etc. A bit like a Balotelli in the White House. Any road, Reagan absolutely hated nuclear weapons. Hated them. He thought it was completely morally wrong that we could annihilate people so easily and so quickly. He wanted the world to disarm, and the reason he loved the Strategic Defence Initiative (Star Wars) is because he wanted everyone to be safe from them forever. He would have give the Russians the technology. I'm certain of it, had it worked of course. The bit that really made me laugh though, was when his advisers realised, shit, Reagan's serious about this. They thought he was playing a masterful bluff with the Russians but at Reykjavik they had a sudden 'oh fuck, he means it' moment. I've read it three or four times from different people, it's hilarious. You can visualise the reaction. You can see them shit themselves. That's why I have that soft spot for him. He actually had the balls, and enough of a heart, to want to do something great for the human race, to guarantee their safety from their own stupidity. I really like that about him. It doesn't atone for his other sins fully, but I believe Reagan had a heart. I also believe his stupidity means he's more blameless for his evils than Thatcher. I do not believe she had a heart. She was not a warm person at all. Reagan definitely had a warmth, a human touch, that Thatcher simply didn't.

A good post but do you not think Reaganomics influenced Thatcher and persuaded her the right thing to do was push through her far right agenda. The tax cutting agenda they started is arguably the reaon for todays financial meltdown

With due respect El-Presidente, can you provide a better analysis of your argument?
 
pauldominic said:
buzzer1 said:
Blue2112 said:
New documents released today reveal President Reagan tried on countless occasions to stop her from going to war in the Falklands. There's also letters from Saville to Thatch referring to 'his girl patients' when telling Thatch they all wanted to know what she was wearing when they had dinner together.

The file also reveals a discussion on Savile's suggestions about tax deductions for charitable donations. He certainly had a line straight to the top no wonder he got away with so fucking much abuse (Not saying Maggie knew by the way).

Just heard it all on radio 4, i don't know if you can podcast it or something but it was on at around half ten until half 11.

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/jimmy-savile/9767912/Savile-declared-love-for-Margaret-Thatcher-in-handwritten-letter.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/ ... etter.html</a>

Nah.

The full story of the war and Jimmy is based on the 30 year rule and was explored in detail on radio 4 today programme - 7am to 9am.

If you never listen to radio 4 or today, this week is always interesting with guest editors.

Melinda Gates this morning.

-- Fri Dec 28, 2012 11:48 pm --

Rascal said:
Skashion said:
I really do have a soft spot for him. I wrote an essay on nuclear weapons and the end of the Cold War during university and the way people who worked with him described him was hilarious. My girlfriend on the other hand hated him because for some reason I did my reading and wrote my essays from 12 to about 4 in the morning, and I woke her up a few times laughing at him falling asleep during conferences, watching cartoons when he should have been reading briefings etc. A bit like a Balotelli in the White House. Any road, Reagan absolutely hated nuclear weapons. Hated them. He thought it was completely morally wrong that we could annihilate people so easily and so quickly. He wanted the world to disarm, and the reason he loved the Strategic Defence Initiative (Star Wars) is because he wanted everyone to be safe from them forever. He would have give the Russians the technology. I'm certain of it, had it worked of course. The bit that really made me laugh though, was when his advisers realised, shit, Reagan's serious about this. They thought he was playing a masterful bluff with the Russians but at Reykjavik they had a sudden 'oh fuck, he means it' moment. I've read it three or four times from different people, it's hilarious. You can visualise the reaction. You can see them shit themselves. That's why I have that soft spot for him. He actually had the balls, and enough of a heart, to want to do something great for the human race, to guarantee their safety from their own stupidity. I really like that about him. It doesn't atone for his other sins fully, but I believe Reagan had a heart. I also believe his stupidity means he's more blameless for his evils than Thatcher. I do not believe she had a heart. She was not a warm person at all. Reagan definitely had a warmth, a human touch, that Thatcher simply didn't.

A good post but do you not think Reaganomics influenced Thatcher and persuaded her the right thing to do was push through her far right agenda. The tax cutting agenda they started is arguably the reaon for todays financial meltdown

Sorry Skashion, but you must be wumming here.
He is not. In her autobiography Thatcher spoke with some disquiet about Reagan's idealistic vision of a world without nuclear weapons.
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
pauldominic said:
buzzer1 said:
Just heard it all on radio 4, i don't know if you can podcast it or something but it was on at around half ten until half 11.

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/jimmy-savile/9767912/Savile-declared-love-for-Margaret-Thatcher-in-handwritten-letter.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/ ... etter.html</a>

Nah.

The full story of the war and Jimmy is based on the 30 year rule and was explored in detail on radio 4 today programme - 7am to 9am.

If you never listen to radio 4 or today, this week is always interesting with guest editors.

Melinda Gates this morning.

-- Fri Dec 28, 2012 11:48 pm --

Rascal said:
A good post but do you not think Reaganomics influenced Thatcher and persuaded her the right thing to do was push through her far right agenda. The tax cutting agenda they started is arguably the reaon for todays financial meltdown

Sorry Skashion, but you must be wumming here.
He is not. In her autobiography Thatcher spoke with some disquiet about Reagan's idealistic vision of a world without nuclear weapons.
Not read the thread, just surprised at it's longjeverty


LONG
 
mcmanus said:
BoyBlue_1985 said:
I quite like Thatcher she reminds me of me

Oh my fucking days, sweet child of mine, get the fuck out of here, oh no you didn't.... .... I've rubbed me eyes and that comment is still there.

While I am obviously joking down here in da sarf she is remembered, liked and quite revered. She got 11 years despite being a woman so she must of got something right. Might have to have a read up one day and make a decision
 

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