The Agenda (Merged)

[dom]

Excellent post GDM.

I hope you include Jamie Jackson within your description:

But the way United are going the British record signing may not be needed, a fair indication of how Van Gaal is moulding them into a formidable side.

Observer 27 December 2014.

Jamie Jackson is a clown.





And a disrespectful motherfucker.

JJIAC

so bad that even Talkshyte were taking the piss out of him

 

[EricBrooksGhost]

There are about 6 or 7 basic errors of fact in this article and some really surprising lacks of understanding of the rules. This isn't an agenda it is s very very lazy journalist writing a poorly researched and poorly checked article which loses any credibility by its amateurish. I am surprised such a lazy article gets published it is actually a bit embarrassing for anyone Witha basic grasp of the situation

It is Jim White's agenda though.

A 13 year old kid with wiki could have done something better researched and more factual during the adverts of X factor - I don't mind an educated well thought out agenda but this is a lazy insult half arsed effort not worthy of the name

None of which means it's not an agenda; it's about motive, irrespective of facts and quality of writing. Highlighting the flaws is admirable but it doesn't detract from the point that the cockroach's biased diatribe has one aim and that is to discredit us.

 

[Chippy_boy]

Excellent post GDM.

I hope you include Jamie Jackson within your description:



Observer 27 December 2014.

Jamie Jackson is a clown.





And a disrespectful motherfucker.

JJIAC

so bad that even Talkshyte were taking the piss out of him

He's universally loathed by the rags as well. Which when you think his job is Manchester football correspondant, to have alienated yourself from both sets of fans, is quite an achievement!

 

[lefty goldblatt]

JJIADRMF

 

[We're not really here]

Witch hunt and pure lies.

Today was the final straw for me. I don't touch anything to do with the MEN rag after last season. I never read any of the press or listen to talkshite and now the Beeb can fuck off as well.
The ink has not even been put on the papers but already we have a "is Bony worth the money?" poll. The fuckers then followed it up with a comment from the simpleton Savage about how good it was to see the third and fourth placed teams full of academy graduates. Obviously the vermin had not one single graduate in the team. Twitter was bombarded by people pointing out this blatant lie but although they print comments nothing was mentioned.
Nor did they, or anybody else for that matter, mention that the most expensive team in English football history failed to have a shot on target.
I also believe we are being targeted by the press again tonight to cover up the rags failures.
It's been said on countless occasions on here but surely we should be fronting the wankers up now? I for one am fucking sick of it.

 

[dronefromsector7g]

Re: Witch hunt and pure lies.

I just laugh at the bitter cunts.

Fuck em all.

And to any lurking rags/journos -

CHAMPIONS

 

[Chippy_boy]

I can't watch MOTD anymore. The intense rage I invariably experience watching it hugely outweighs the occassional atom of pleasure. In short, it's just not worth it.

 

[Sigh]

I remember reading on here, over the last few years, how our policy in relation to the press that was we wouldn't rise to it and they would come round eventually. That, and what a grand job Vicky Kloss was doing etc etc.

May just be me, although pretty sure it's not, but I would genuinely say that it is actually getting worse.

Surely it's time to take a bit of a stance with these twats?

I'd just fucking chin the lot and be done with it.

 

[TCIB]

I think there is something that deserves comment about the Manchester press pack.

To understand their current make up , one needs to appreciate how and why they came to hold their current roles.

Seven or eight years ago being a football writer in Manchester was a good gig. Definitely the best outside London. united were (and are) a truly global sporting brand and the fact that the city itself had a Premier League club in City, meant there was plenty to write about and keep them occupied. City's enduring ability to create drama probably added to the attraction, journalistically.

How did we end up with the currently collection of Manchester based journalists? To my mind, for two primary reasons, that once greatly complemented each other.

Firstly, who did the national papers seek to appoint to report on footballing matters in the city? People with sympathies towards united. Anyone displaying tendencies towards City would be a hinderence to the commercial aspirations of the newspaper. It simply wouldn't make any sense.

Secondly, what type of journalist was attracted to these roles? Not the best, or the cream of the crop - they would want to be based in London - but rather reporters who placed greater currency on reporting on united than being sports journalists per se. Quite simply, fans or sympathisers with united, who had displayed a modicum of journalistic talent.

The fact that most of the local press pack are united fans clearly supports both these assertions, most manifestly when casting your eyes at Ogden's erstwhile role as a united fanzine editor and current role as a Manchester correspondent for the Telegraph.

And for a while that arrangement was, for all its unfairness towards City and its supporters, congruous. The fact was united dominated the city from a media perspective, nationally and globally.

What Manchester now represents in footballing terms has fundamentally changed in recent years, however. It now boasts two clubs based in and around it that are both truly global giants in terms of their exposure. Sporting entities which are both talked about and reported upon across the planet on a daily basis.

And for me this is the rub. Rather than see the rise of City, and being at the centre of an incredible footballing story, as an opportunity for professional fulfillment, these reporters have instead maintained their MO of reporting favourably on one club at the expense of the other. Rather than recognise that the pieces in the board have shifted and be professional and ambitious about it, they have, instead, elected to remain tendentious in a pathetic and forlorn attempt to hold back the tide. Any one of them could have recognised that the chance to excel journalistically was being presented to them, and for them to rise from the pack. None of them have. The fact that not one of them has demonstrates that they do not posses the talent to do so - and that itself is lamentable in the extreme.

There are so many legitimate questions that this rabble fail to ask of united collectively and individually because of their lack of professionalism and journalistic talent: the poor recent return on investment in players; the putative abandonment of the club's much vaunted youth policy; the club's financial base being in the Cayman Islands are all examples of this.

Like it or not both City and united are going to be at the top table for the foreseeable and the city and its surrounding areas deserve that narrative to be chronicled in a way that is more fitting and worthy.

Quite simply the local press pack are like a group of middle managers who have all been working for the same poorly run company that gets taken over by a bigger, better organisation. They don't posses the talent or the wherewithal to cope in their new working environment, but they know that although they're no longer up to the job it's going to take a long time and a lot of aggro to remove them from their roles.

Manchester will be, there or thereabouts, at the centre of the footballing world in the years ahead and it is unfortunate in the extreme that there is nothing better than this bunch, who are clearly not fit for purpose, to report on this story with more gravitas and presence.

It's a great footballing story and it deserves much, much better than this bunch of glorified united fanzine editors.

Great post, i was trying to word in my head the other night, whilst stoned and lay down, a post on exactly this issue.
That of the manchester football media outlet infrastructure.
I am glad you did it as my efforts would not have had such clarity i doubt.

 

[Victoria-bahs]

http://www.rense.com/general38/brits.htm

http://www.theguardian.com/world/20...be-held-responsible-for-france-terror-attacks

Think our club is just caught in the middle..of a bigger agenda, oh how i hope the Qatar investors buy west ham.. take some of the heat off us

I hope i am wrong but every day us on the back page with a negitive spin ? its not normal/kosher
Whatever the truth, it seems wise to consider all possibilities when mainstream media promote stories

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I would put the press v us down as a False-flag