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gordondaviesmoustache said:
I think there is something that deserves comment about the Manchester press pack.

To understand their current make up , one needs to appreciate how and why they came to hold their current roles.

Seven or eight years ago being a football writer in Manchester was a good gig. Definitely the best outside London. united were (and are) a truly global sporting brand and the fact that the city itself had a Premier League club in City, meant there was plenty to write about and keep them occupied. City's enduring ability to create drama probably added to the attraction, journalistically.

How did we end up with the currently collection of Manchester based journalists? To my mind, for two primary reasons, that once greatly complemented each other.

Firstly, who did the national papers seek to appoint to report on footballing matters in the city? People with sympathies towards united. Anyone displaying tendencies towards City would be a hinderence to the commercial aspirations of the newspaper. It simply wouldn't make any sense.

Secondly, what type of journalist was attracted to these roles? Not the best, or the cream of the crop - they would want to be based in London - but rather reporters who placed greater currency on reporting on united than being sports journalists per se. Quite simply, fans or sympathisers with united, who had displayed a modicum of journalistic talent.

The fact that most of the local press pack are united fans clearly supports both these assertions, most manifestly when casting your eyes at Ogden's erstwhile role as a united fanzine editor and current role as a Manchester correspondent for the Telegraph.

And for a while that arrangement was, for all its unfairness towards City and its supporters, congruous. The fact was united dominated the city from a media perspective, nationally and globally.

What Manchester now represents in footballing terms has fundamentally changed in recent years, however. It now boasts two clubs based in and around it that are both truly global giants in terms of their exposure. Sporting entities which are both talked about and reported upon across the planet on a daily basis.

And for me this is the rub. Rather than see the rise of City, and being at the centre of an incredible footballing story, as an opportunity for professional fulfillment, these reporters have instead maintained their MO of reporting favourably on one club at the expense of the other. Rather than recognise that the pieces in the board have shifted and be professional and ambitious about it, they have, instead, elected to remain tendentious in a pathetic and forlorn attempt to hold back the tide. Any one of them could have recognised that the chance to excel journalistically was being presented to them, and for them to rise from the pack. None of them have. The fact that not one of them has demonstrates that they do not posses the talent to do so - and that itself is lamentable in the extreme.

There are so many legitimate questions that this rabble fail to ask of united collectively and individually because of their lack of professionalism and journalistic talent: the poor recent return on investment in players; the putative abandonment of the club's much vaunted youth policy; the club's financial base being in the Cayman Islands are all examples of this.

Like it or not both City and united are going to be at the top table for the foreseeable and the city and its surrounding areas deserve that narrative to be chronicled in a way that is more fitting and worthy.

Quite simply the local press pack are like a group of middle managers who have all been working for the same poorly run company that gets taken over by a bigger, better organisation. They don't posses the talent or the wherewithal to cope in their new working environment, but they know that although they're no longer up to the job it's going to take a long time and a lot of aggro to remove them from their roles.

Manchester will be, there or thereabouts, at the centre of the footballing world in the years ahead and it is unfortunate in the extreme that there is nothing better than this bunch, who are clearly not fit for purpose, to report on this story with more gravitas and presence.

It's a great footballing story and it deserves much, much better than this bunch of glorified united fanzine editors.

great post and spot on.
i always think where their proffessional pride is. they surely dont believe a word they write themselves. are they so desperate to earn a living, get free entry to games etc that they simply print anything to keep that going. how do they look in to their childrens eyes knowing their father is a fraud, a weak weak fraud.

sad fucks.
 
de niro said:
gordondaviesmoustache said:
I think there is something that deserves comment about the Manchester press pack.

To understand their current make up , one needs to appreciate how and why they came to hold their current roles.

Seven or eight years ago being a football writer in Manchester was a good gig. Definitely the best outside London. united were (and are) a truly global sporting brand and the fact that the city itself had a Premier League club in City, meant there was plenty to write about and keep them occupied. City's enduring ability to create drama probably added to the attraction, journalistically.

How did we end up with the currently collection of Manchester based journalists? To my mind, for two primary reasons, that once greatly complemented each other.

Firstly, who did the national papers seek to appoint to report on footballing matters in the city? People with sympathies towards united. Anyone displaying tendencies towards City would be a hinderence to the commercial aspirations of the newspaper. It simply wouldn't make any sense.

Secondly, what type of journalist was attracted to these roles? Not the best, or the cream of the crop - they would want to be based in London - but rather reporters who placed greater currency on reporting on united than being sports journalists per se. Quite simply, fans or sympathisers with united, who had displayed a modicum of journalistic talent.

The fact that most of the local press pack are united fans clearly supports both these assertions, most manifestly when casting your eyes at Ogden's erstwhile role as a united fanzine editor and current role as a Manchester correspondent for the Telegraph.

And for a while that arrangement was, for all its unfairness towards City and its supporters, congruous. The fact was united dominated the city from a media perspective, nationally and globally.

What Manchester now represents in footballing terms has fundamentally changed in recent years, however. It now boasts two clubs based in and around it that are both truly global giants in terms of their exposure. Sporting entities which are both talked about and reported upon across the planet on a daily basis.

And for me this is the rub. Rather than see the rise of City, and being at the centre of an incredible footballing story, as an opportunity for professional fulfillment, these reporters have instead maintained their MO of reporting favourably on one club at the expense of the other. Rather than recognise that the pieces in the board have shifted and be professional and ambitious about it, they have, instead, elected to remain tendentious in a pathetic and forlorn attempt to hold back the tide. Any one of them could have recognised that the chance to excel journalistically was being presented to them, and for them to rise from the pack. None of them have. The fact that not one of them has demonstrates that they do not posses the talent to do so - and that itself is lamentable in the extreme.

There are so many legitimate questions that this rabble fail to ask of united collectively and individually because of their lack of professionalism and journalistic talent: the poor recent return on investment in players; the putative abandonment of the club's much vaunted youth policy; the club's financial base being in the Cayman Islands are all examples of this.

Like it or not both City and united are going to be at the top table for the foreseeable and the city and its surrounding areas deserve that narrative to be chronicled in a way that is more fitting and worthy.

Quite simply the local press pack are like a group of middle managers who have all been working for the same poorly run company that gets taken over by a bigger, better organisation. They don't posses the talent or the wherewithal to cope in their new working environment, but they know that although they're no longer up to the job it's going to take a long time and a lot of aggro to remove them from their roles.

Manchester will be, there or thereabouts, at the centre of the footballing world in the years ahead and it is unfortunate in the extreme that there is nothing better than this bunch, who are clearly not fit for purpose, to report on this story with more gravitas and presence.

It's a great footballing story and it deserves much, much better than this bunch of glorified united fanzine editors.

great post and spot on.
i always think where their proffessional pride is. they surely dont believe a word they write themselves. are they so desperate to earn a living, get free entry to games etc that they simply print anything to keep that going. how do they look in to their childrens eyes knowing their father is a fraud, a weak weak fraud.

sad fucks.
They are sad fucks, mate.

I would have imagined that out of that grouping which includes Ogden, Jackson, Ladyman and Herbert, just by the law of averages, one would have had the intelligence and/or journalistic talent to recognise the opportunity that was being presented to them and seize it. The fact that none of them has, reflects incredibly poorly on them as a group and individually.

This is one reason I greatly admire Gary Neville. He had the intelligence to appreciate that in order for him to be respected as a pundit (which he undoubtedly is) he would have to transcend the parochial. Whether his discernible ability to pass comment in a fair, balanced (and therefore professional) way is just an act is a moot point imo. The fact remains he opines upon footballing matters in a considered and non-partisan way and he deserves credit and respect for that. He has made the most of an opportunity that has been granted to him. None of the above journalists (possibly because they don't posses the talent to) have taken the opportunity that City's takeover in 2008 has given them to comment with authority and balance from what is now the apex of the English footballing world.

I'm not sure there's a great deal the club can do about this grouping tbh. Recent content has supported the suggestion that their collective editorial output is somewhat conspiratorial against the club in its nature. The timing of the recent attacks on the club in relation to Lampard seemed coordinated. This is not the first occasion this has happened; not by a long stretch. This is very difficult for a club that is seeking to embrace the media to combat effectively. Ban one and the others will doubtlessly turn even further against the club. This is not something the club would want to countenance, especially as this grouping set the tone of the national press narrative against the club. 'Against' being the operative word.

One can only hope that those (presumably based in London) who appoint local reporters in the years ahead, recognise the preeminence of Manchester from a football writers' perspective and appoint journalists with a degree of talent and professional pride that properly reflects the city's current (and doubtless future) status as an epicentre of the sport.

How those individuals would be welcomed by the current incumbents could prove to be interesting. Nobody likes being shown up as incompetent at their job.

It's going to take a journalist with incredible force of personality to flourish among the prevailing clique, but the opportunity for professional greatness beckons if they do.
 
Noticed the Malanda story on BBC and no quote from Belgian captain Vincent Kompany. I thought, ooh, that's insincere of Vincent until checking the mirror who ran this story.

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Junior Malanda dead: Vincent Kompany and Eden Hazard lead tributes after fatal car crash
Jan 10, 2015 22:07 By Liam Corless
The 20-year-old was killed on impact when an SUV he was a passenger in skidded off the road and collided with a tree

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GettyTragic: Wolfsburg midfielder Malanda has been killed in a car accident
Tributes have flooded in for Wolfsburg starlet Junior Malanda after he was killed in a car crash.

The Belgian died as he made his way to a German airport ahead of flying out to South Africa for a training camp with his club.

According to BILD, the defensive midfiedler was travelling in the back seat of an SUV when it was involved in a high-speed collision near Porta Westfalica in north-central Germany.

Malanda played 15 times for the Bundesliga outfit this campaign and turned out against Everton in the Europa League last November.

Eden Hazard, Thibaut Courtois and Vincent Kompany are among the many to have tweeted tributes to the fallen 20-year-old.

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With a tweet from out inspirational captain that won't copy.
 
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