The Agenda (Merged)

[Paul Lake's Left Knee]

Re: so this agenda thing.

This remains my favourite thread on Bluemoon, i not a fan of its circular nature, but it still provides plenty of mirth.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Re: so this agenda thing.

As for Kolo, you could have a case that he was labelled a 'mercenary' when he joined City, but im not too sure you can label him one at Liverpool given that he went on a free and he is 34 years of age

Someone leaving on a Bosman hardly precludes them from being labelled a mercenary, and in many such instances it actually makes that's description more apposite.

Explain further mate?

He was no longer required by a team that were head and shoulders above the team he joined and I imagine he took a pretty big pay cut. Given that he doesn't even need to move home in order to get to work, and is still relatively close to his brother would suggest it was a very good move for him

Apologies. Reading back I didn't make myself clear.

I was speaking in general terms, rather than about Kolo and I should have put the term mercenary in quotation marks as, quite frankly, it's a fucking ridiculous description, as it applies to 99% of footballers.

I meant 'mercenary', in that to those that routinely use that term to describe footballers who don't display the requisite loyalty, it is often those that leave on a Bosman who are the biggest sinners: Owen, Campbell, Ballack.

Personally I don't have a problem with any player that does this,including Jimmy if that's the way things end up. They've completed and complied with the terms of their contract and are free to earn a living where they best see fit. Clubs know the score on this and have plenty of time and opportunity to deal with it if they see fit.

All I meant was someone leaving on a free doesn't exclude them from the accusation of being a mercenary per se which is what your post was seeming to suggest.

 

[chris85mcfc]

Re: so this agenda thing.

Someone leaving on a Bosman hardly precludes them from being labelled a mercenary, and in many such instances it actually makes that's description more apposite.

Explain further mate?

He was no longer required by a team that were head and shoulders above the team he joined and I imagine he took a pretty big pay cut. Given that he doesn't even need to move home in order to get to work, and is still relatively close to his brother would suggest it was a very good move for him

Apologies. Reading back I didn't make myself clear.

I was speaking in general terms, rather than about Kolo and I should have put the term mercenary in quotation marks as, quite frankly, it's a fucking ridiculous description, as it applies to 99% of footballers.

I meant 'mercenary', in that to those that routinely use that term to describe footballers who don't display the requisite loyalty, it is often those that leave on a Bosman who are the biggest sinners: Owen, Campbell, Ballack.

Personally I don't have a problem with any player that does this,including Jimmy if that's the way things end up. They've completed and complied with the terms of their contract and are free to earn a living where they best see fit. Clubs know the score on this and have plenty of time and opportunity to deal with it if they see fit.

All I meant was someone leaving on a free doesn't exclude them from the accusation of being a mercenary per se which is what your post was seeming to suggest.

Yeah just looked at my original post again and its a bit vague

I was trying to express the opinion that in Kolo's case there is a narrative that perhaps he was a 'mercenary' (i cant stand that word either) when he joined City as he was seen to be joining a club slightly below his current club in the pecking order, and the chances are he was doubling his salary.

But his move to Liverpool is different in the respect that he was no longer required by his current club, and he was offered a deal 40 miles down the road which meant he didn't have to move home or move away from close family, whilst taking a reduction in salary

But i do agree with what you're getting at about Bosman players leaving for the biggest pay-day they can possibly get, im talking the transfers of Campo, Hierro, Djorkaeff and Okocha to Bolton (some of those might have been small fees), but there the kind of deals that should be looked at as 'transfers of mercanaries' not when a good footballer goes to a club challenging for trophies, which the likes of Yaya, Silva and Aguero were when they joined City

I might have tied myself in knots a little bit then but its been a long day :)

 

[everythingchangesbutblue]

Re: so this agenda thing.

Most non agendarists seem to believe that the many bad calls we get are just referee error, yes, fine.
Most non agendarists believe that the continued hard draws we get are just channce, yes, fine.
Most non agendarist believe that ffp is the design of the g14 putting pressure on uefa to protect their cartel, i think we all agree on that.
SO WHAT WE ARE LEFT WITH is that non agendarists believe that uefa would'nt be corrupt as to have some pre determind choice to make things harder for the club they have been so open with trying to stop through financial means. Wake the fuck up. Any big buisness discussion in the cellar would have the very same non agendarists saying they are bent as fuck from starbucks to banks to the supermarkets, BUT NOT UEFA, NO ITS LOONEY TUNES TO THINK UEFA. Wake the fuck up people.

So why have UEFA put UEFAlona in a tie to face us in the Round of 16, the hardest possible draw UEFAlona could get? DO you think UEFAlona are happy to be facing us? Or do you think we're some shite piss easy team to beat?

Even though the question hasn't really got anything to do with the post of mine you quoted i'll answer it anyway. barca (who im glad we're playing btw, i spent decades dreamin of ties like this) will get the decisions to get them through. Obviously just my opinion but after both ties have been played i will come back to this post and if im wrong i'll hold my hands up, but i won't be. We will only get through that tie by scoring 30 yard screamers or just playing great, if its a tight match we don't have a chance in hell, ref will see to that., ofcourse you will just say thats just bad refereeing anyway. Now can i ask you to answer a yes or no question? do you think uefa could be corrupt?

 

[bernabias home shirt]

Re: so this agenda thing.

This remains my favourite thread on Bluemoon, i not a fan of its circular nature, but it still provides plenty of mirth.

You must be a fan of David Icke too if you like some of the stuff on here :)

 

[The perfect fumble]

Re: so this agenda thing.

This remains my favourite thread on Bluemoon, i not a fan of its circular nature, but it still provides plenty of mirth.

You must be a fan of David Icke too if you like some of the stuff on here :)

Illuminati Lizards.....

Sam Matterface commenting from the Etihad.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Re: so this agenda thing.

Explain further mate?

He was no longer required by a team that were head and shoulders above the team he joined and I imagine he took a pretty big pay cut. Given that he doesn't even need to move home in order to get to work, and is still relatively close to his brother would suggest it was a very good move for him

Apologies. Reading back I didn't make myself clear.

I was speaking in general terms, rather than about Kolo and I should have put the term mercenary in quotation marks as, quite frankly, it's a fucking ridiculous description, as it applies to 99% of footballers.

I meant 'mercenary', in that to those that routinely use that term to describe footballers who don't display the requisite loyalty, it is often those that leave on a Bosman who are the biggest sinners: Owen, Campbell, Ballack.

Personally I don't have a problem with any player that does this,including Jimmy if that's the way things end up. They've completed and complied with the terms of their contract and are free to earn a living where they best see fit. Clubs know the score on this and have plenty of time and opportunity to deal with it if they see fit.

All I meant was someone leaving on a free doesn't exclude them from the accusation of being a mercenary per se which is what your post was seeming to suggest.

Yeah just looked at my original post again and its a bit vague

I was trying to express the opinion that in Kolo's case there is a narrative that perhaps he was a 'mercenary' (i cant stand that word either) when he joined City as he was seen to be joining a club slightly below his current club in the pecking order, and the chances are he was doubling his salary.

But his move to Liverpool is different in the respect that he was no longer required by his current club, and he was offered a deal 40 miles down the road which meant he didn't have to move home or move away from close family, whilst taking a reduction in salary

But i do agree with what you're getting at about Bosman players leaving for the biggest pay-day they can possibly get, im talking the transfers of Campo, Hierro, Djorkaeff and Okocha to Bolton (some of those might have been small fees), but there the kind of deals that should be looked at as 'transfers of mercanaries' not when a good footballer goes to a club challenging for trophies, which the likes of Yaya, Silva and Aguero were when they joined City

I might have tied myself in knots a little bit then but its been a long day :)

You made yourself perfectly clear mate and what is apparent, and something I'm sure we can all agree on, is that a move from City to Liverpool is definitely a step DOWN ;-)

 

[Paul Lake's Left Knee]

Re: so this agenda thing.

This remains my favourite thread on Bluemoon, i not a fan of its circular nature, but it still provides plenty of mirth.

You must be a fan of David Icke too if you like some of the stuff on here :)

David Icke is nowhere near as funny as some on here, although there is a high likelihood of GDM appearing on telly in a turquoise shell suit and declaring himself the son of god, which i would be a fan of.

 

[Aguero_Element]

Re: so this agenda thing.

there is an agenda, well done bluemoon :D



MEDIA IS A THING :D

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Re: so this agenda thing.

This remains my favourite thread on Bluemoon, i not a fan of its circular nature, but it still provides plenty of mirth.

You must be a fan of David Icke too if you like some of the stuff on here :)

David Icke is nowhere near as funny as some on here, although there is a high likelihood of GDM appearing on telly in a turquoise shell suit and declaring himself the son of god, which i would be a fan of.

Turquoise makes me look fat.