The Agenda (Merged)

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Simon Mullock's sub-editor is a disrespectful motherfucker.

 

[waspish]

Ffp hey the big stick that they keep hitting us with! FFP is a a virus that infects the weak minded media who lap it up and keep writing shite and Making City look like we cheating!

It's a great way of diminishing our achievements by constantly calling us cheats

Surely all it says it that MCFC have found a way to comply with FFP and still buy players ?
Cheating is not in my opinion implied merely that the FFP rules were not harsh enough to stop a business plan that could overcome its objective.

In other words it criticises UEFA not City.

Agree but it's the headline that people will read and it's only city that gets "oh look ffp how can they buy him" this article does explain the deal and how it will be done, like I said people mostly Only read the headlines and it has set the tone of our club are finding ways to cheat..

 

[jrb]

Perhaps I missed it, but he forgot to mention the Negredo transfer fee that will cover the Bony transfer fee. Not to mention any money from the sale of Nastasic. Selective journalism, a bad memory, or an agenda? I'll let you decide.

 

[Henkeman]

Simon Mullock's sub-editor is a disrespectful motherfucker.

Any chance you could keep a list of all the disrespectful motherfuckers?

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Simon Mullock's sub-editor is a disrespectful motherfucker.

Any chance you could keep a list of all the disrespectful motherfuckers?

It's an ever-evolving, moveable feast.

 

[Hoghead]

So a bit like a Chinese buffet then?

 

[Didsbury Dave]

Ffp hey the big stick that they keep hitting us with! FFP is a a virus that infects the weak minded media who lap it up and keep writing shite and Making City look like we cheating!

It's a great way of diminishing our achievements by constantly calling us cheats

Surely all it says it that MCFC have found a way to comply with FFP and still buy players ?
Cheating is not in my opinion implied merely that the FFP rules were not harsh enough to stop a business plan that could overcome its objective.

In other words it criticises UEFA not City.

Correct mate. When you read the article it is actually very pro-city if you want to talk in those simple terms. The FPP 'sanctions' were essentially bluster and show and City fought their corner well and effectively carry on as normal. An opinion I've had for some time actually. I think City hinted at this in their statement.

 

[FantasyIreland]

Lazy wankers......
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When you look at the business City have done since breaching UEFA's guidelines, something just doesn't quite add up - writes Simon Mullock


Manchester City's £30million pursuit of Wilfried Bony illustrates how UEFA's transfer restrictions on the champions for breaking FFP Regulations were little more than a slap on the wrist.

At first glance, the numbers don't quite add up when you look at the business the Blues have done for new players since European football's governing body told them they could spend no more than £49million on new recruits.

Eliaquim Mangala, Fernando, Willy Caballero and Bruno Zuculini were all bought for a combined total of £53million, while £23million was recouped by selling Javi Garcia and Jack Rodwell.

No doubt, FFP convert Jose Mourinho and Arsene Wenger will take time this week asking how City have managed to purchase a £30million striker when they are apparently £11million short.

But as an Etihad source put it to me this morning: "We wouldn't buy Bony if it meant we couldn't meet UEFA's wishes."

The reality is, that for all Sheikh Mansour's wealth and a annual turnover that has exploded towards £350million, even City are no longer averse to the widespread practice in football of buying now, paying later.

One of the attractions for clubs dealing with City following the Abu Dhabi takeover was their ability to pay transfer fees in full.

Owners, chairman and chief executives are a lot more willing to talk business when an offer comes in that gives their clubs a massive injection of cash.

Once UEFA told City that their transfer budget for the year was going to be restricted, there was never any doubt that it was going to be the selling clubs that were going to pay.

The City source added: "There was a significant amount of money left over from our transfer dealings in the summer because of how the payments for those transfers were structured.

"If the deal for Wilfried Bony goes through then it will be along similar lines."

City have a guaranteed payment of £24million due in the summer from Valencia for Alvaro Negredo.

They allowed the striker to return to Spain in the summer on a one-season loan deal as Peter Lim's takeover of the club was yet to be completed.

But the eventual transfer fee for Negredo is set in stone.

City are also looking to raise another £12million this month by selling Matija Nastasic, with both Schalke and AC Milan interested in the Serbian defender.

Manuel Pellegrini saw his team draw level with Chelsea over the course of the Christmas period, a feat made even more impressive by the fact that City have closed a nine-point gap despite playing without a recognised striker.

James Milner was forced to play up front as Sergio Aguero, Edin Dzeko and Stevan Jovetic recovered from injury.

And while Jovetic is back and Aguero and Dzeko are close to a return, the swoop for Bony is a necessary piece of business even though the Ivory Coast striker might not be available until next month because of the African Cup of Nations.

City know they cannot go into the business end of the season relying on three forwards who have been plagued by fitness problems.

It's a statement of intent that they expect to go much further in both the Champions League and FA Cup and still have designs on retaining the title.

Bony's arrival, once confirmed, will give Pellegrini a decision to make over his Champions League squad.

The City boss has room in his Premier League squad to accommodate the most prolific striker in the division over the course of 2014.

But Pellegrini has been ordered to operate with just 21 players in Europe as part of UEFA's FFP sanction

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

The suggestion that we'll structure payments to get around FFP is a bit much, Whether we pay upfront or in installments its still recorded the same on the books I think.

But as I said earlier, it may well depend on how we structure the actual deal, rather than the payments (which don't matter as you rightly say).

If we do a deal for a straight £30m then that's what goes in the books, whether we pay that in one lump sum or three instalments. But if we do a deal for £20m with another £10m contingent on hitting certain milestones (goals scored, games played, trophies won, etc) then I'm less sure about how we account for it. From what Mullock is saying I get the impression we only need to account for the add-on payments once the milestone is achieved.

 

[squirtyflower]

The suggestion that we'll structure payments to get around FFP is a bit much, Whether we pay upfront or in installments its still recorded the same on the books I think.

But as I said earlier, it may well depend on how we structure the actual deal, rather than the payments (which don't matter as you rightly say).

If we do a deal for a straight £30m then that's what goes in the books, whether we pay that in one lump sum or three instalments. But if we do a deal for £20m with another £10m contingent on hitting certain milestones (goals scored, games played, trophies won, etc) then I'm less sure about how we account for it. From what Mullock is saying I get the impression we only need to account for the add-on payments once the milestone is achieved.

Well why didn't we do that before instead of falling foul of FFP by such a small amount

Cheers for the cutnpaste FI