BimboBob
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My faith is restored. Seems foggys dislike was caused by 3 months in solitary. That can do strange things to a man.
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The Album Review Club - End of Round #9 Break (page 1904)
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Yeah, 1984!? They weren't bad; I'd bought their first 2 singles, Runaway and She Don't Know Me, but they were not in the Slippery When Wet class!I saw Bon Jovi support KISS; they didn't do a Van Halen ;-)
RobMCFC
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I don’t like his love songs, they are a little by-the-numbers for me.Allentown is the one song of his I like, but his incessant complaining about how fucked baby-boomers got in so many songs is absolutely unbearable. Thematically he is literally one of the worst popular songwriters America has produced.
Then we move onto his “love” songs. Imagine a multi-millionaire writing Uptown Girl unironically about Elle McPherson right as he’s about to dump her to fuck Christie Brinkley, THEN getting his new disposable supermodel to star in the video THEN have a gall to play a mechanic in it like he’s the working class hero of the song!
Never has a musician demonstrated as little self-knowledge. God he’s fucking odious.
At least Kiss have generated some heated debate - I certainly get why a lot of you aren't keen!
What I find interesting is that some people become very judgemental about what others should, or shouldn't, like - I hope I'd never be so presumptuous (or pompous) to do such a thing! :)
What I find interesting is that some people become very judgemental about what others should, or shouldn't, like - I hope I'd never be so presumptuous (or pompous) to do such a thing! :)
Mancitydoogle
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Heavy/Metal rock is not really my bag, as I mentioned previously the only Kiss album I’ve ever heard was ‘Kiss Alive’ which I didn’t like.However, I quite like this album particularly when driving.The record has Bob Ezrin all over it, making the production excellent.A lot of the songs are quite catchy,the playing good, the vocals are ok but the lyrics are really poor.A lot of it reminds me of Alice Cooper but that could down to BE.
I also heard some
Mott the Hoople in a couple of songs ‘great expectations and do you love me,’ although they certainly don’t have the songwriting skills of Ian Hunter, a big fave of mine.
I don’t like power ballads and I think ‘Beth’ is one of the poorer ones.
All in all a bit of a suprise as I thought I’d hate it ,so it’s a 6
I also heard some
Mott the Hoople in a couple of songs ‘great expectations and do you love me,’ although they certainly don’t have the songwriting skills of Ian Hunter, a big fave of mine.
I don’t like power ballads and I think ‘Beth’ is one of the poorer ones.
All in all a bit of a suprise as I thought I’d hate it ,so it’s a 6
FogBlueInSanFran
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I tend to be judgmental about comments by those who don’t put their own favo(u)rite records up to the test but criticiz(s)e others’.At least Kiss have generated some heated debate - I certainly get why a lot of you aren't keen!
What I find interesting is that some people become very judgemental about what others should, or shouldn't, like - I hope I'd never be so presumptuous (or pompous) to do such a thing! :)
MCFCTrick
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I also heard some
Mott the Hoople in a couple of songs ‘great expectations and do you love me,’ although they certainly don’t have the songwriting skills of Ian Hunter, a big fave of mine
Girl, who got such a lot of stick for their early Japan image from the denim n dandruff brigade, (a lot who hypocritically jumped on a similar image a few years later) covered Do You Love Me? .... and personally bettered it for me. I get the Hunter/Mott feel.
OB1
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Heavy/Metal rock is not really my bag, as I mentioned previously the only Kiss album I’ve ever heard was ‘Kiss Alive’ which I didn’t like.However, I quite like this album particularly when driving.The record has Bob Ezrin all over it, making the production excellent.A lot of the songs are quite catchy,the playing good, the vocals are ok but the lyrics are really poor.A lot of it reminds me of Alice Cooper but that could down to BE.
I also heard some
Mott the Hoople in a couple of songs ‘great expectations and do you love me,’ although they certainly don’t have the songwriting skills of Ian Hunter, a big fave of mine.
I don’t like power ballads and I think ‘Beth’ is one of the poorer ones.
All in all a bit of a suprise as I thought I’d hate it ,so it’s a 6
Not hard to hear Mott Do You Love Me, given that the review pointed that ;-). It was intentional on the part of the band.
Quite a lot of people have commented on the songwriting in derogatory terms and the songs are simple but that is entirely deliberate.
I was quite amused by the reference about them not being Bob Dylan, because Gene Simmons has in fact written songs with Dylan.
OB1
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Girl, who got such a lot of stick for their early Japan image from the denim n dandruff brigade, (a lot who hypocritically jumped on a similar image a few years later) covered Do You Love Me? .... and personally bettered it for me. I get the Hunter/Mott feel.
Can't agree that Girl bettered it but it was a good cover. I was a big fan of Girl.
I also - and I've told this one before - seen and heard in person Gene Simmons absolutely slate Girl for their lack of professionalism because they pulled out of their support slot at on the second night at Wembley in 1980.
Phil Lewis had a cold, in fact the evening before he was telling us backstage that he couldn't stay awake because of all the cough syrup he'd drunk.
Simmons was very much the show must go on and you do not let your fans down.
If all of my best friends' band had been there, they could have got the support gig but the lead guitarist was at home in Kendall. :(