The Album Review Club - End of Round #9 Break (page 1904)

Your second paragraph is probably somewhere along the lines of what I thought you meant. The rest, sorry, don't see that at all. There is a certain charm and quality to a raw and unpolished album, of course there is. It can also feel totally forced.

Generally I think many albums will have a point to them. And looking for what you (royal you) want to hear in them misses the point. This one is no exception, and it neither tries to be nor is gritty, in that sense. If we are associating 'angst' with grit, then yes this album has some elements of that for sure. Anyway what that album doesn't do for me, has nothing to do with it's level of production, which I wouldn't fault.
To be honest, I like to think that I'm a fan of "raw and unpolished" albums, but I'm not really.
If you were standing next to a bunch of musicians who just played something on the spot, it would no doubt sound fantastic. However, try to put that on a record and most of the times it fails.

I actually prefer a well produced album to a ramshackle/lo-fi affair. I like the instruments to sound natural and free from too much studio giimickry, but I think that it takes a certain level of production to capture that sound anyway.

Just a personal opinion, but the two previous albums sounded too smooth and produced for my own taste, whereas this one did not. I suppose it's a difficult balance and as listeners, we all have a different level of expectation from the music we listen to. But it's good that not everybody feels the same way.
 
I had a listen to the album on Friday and it didn't do too much for me I'm afraid. I'll come clean and admit it's not my favourite genre so it was always going to be a struggle for me to get through this one. However, as I've always said I would rather be challenged than listen to something I've heard before.

I did give it one listen and it just wasn't for me. I think I didn't really like this for two reasons: I wasn't a fan of the singers voice to be honest, it didn't vary too much and it kind of sounded like many other singers in this genre. I also found that the songs were a bit 'samey' for me.

It's not bad and I wouldn't complain if someone was playing it, but it's not one I'd go back to. However, I'm glad I've given it a go - you can't like them all :)

It's a 4/10 from me - sorry!
 
I had a listen to the album on Friday and it didn't do too much for me I'm afraid. I'll come clean and admit it's not my favourite genre so it was always going to be a struggle for me to get through this one. However, as I've always said I would rather be challenged than listen to something I've heard before.

I did give it one listen and it just wasn't for me. I think I didn't really like this for two reasons: I wasn't a fan of the singers voice to be honest, it didn't vary too much and it kind of sounded like many other singers in this genre. I also found that the songs were a bit 'samey' for me.

It's not bad and I wouldn't complain if someone was playing it, but it's not one I'd go back to. However, I'm glad I've given it a go - you can't like them all :)

It's a 4/10 from me - sorry!
Pretty much sums up my thoughts but I'd give it a 5.
 
I’ve unfortunately only got to listen to half of this. It’s been a really busy week and weekend and I don’t think I’ll get a chance tomorrow either.

I didn’t find what listened to terrible, although it wouldn’t be my usual taste.

Probably unfair for me to score it.
 
Well then.

This is, by a reasonable margin though certainly not a landslide, the best record this thread has produced. And I say that having given both The Drive-By Truckers and Michael Stearns 9s.

“Dogs At Bay” is the culmination of nearly 50 years of garage band rock and roll, winnowed down to the crunchiest walloping guitar hooks, and the strummiest tinktabulating, with a drummer who drives the songs at the ideal beats per minute (i.e. fast but not punk breakneck), and a tuneful bassist inserting himself at precisely the correct moments, and a singer who’s emerged unshowered and alternatively (1) raging from the primordial ooze like one of those orcs in Lord of the Rings, and (2) plaintively -- almost pathetically -- pleading for a lover to return. Take them all plus their music, then toss them into the dust and rocks and rust and beer and testosterone -- and the lower-income strata -- of Adelaide. It’s a place I’ve never been, but a place I feel like I know after listening to this record several times, and having watched all the videos I could find (which you should check out if you liked this by the way -– they have pitifully few YouTube views). What you get is a record and a band that feels unkempt and dirty, but extraordinarily tight; both brand new and fresh, but timeless as well. These are very rare combinations.

Listening to this I hear a few dozen influences, but no over-arching one. They certainly sound a lot less like The Replacements than I expected. Others have brought many artists up (like Saints) and so have I (The Feelies, who were an 80s version of Velvet Underground in many ways, is another I heard here, along with a smidge of Tom Petty, a dash of The Cure and a speck of REM). But that’s what makes this special. I hear influence, but absolutely no tributes, no copying, no homages. It’s defiant. It’s as if the band invented this music on their own without any influences, and only accidentally and sporadically sound like other bands, in bits and pieces. The fact that we can’t pigeonhole influence is IMO a mark of great distinction.

I don’t know where to go in ranking the stand-out tracks, because I loved so many. But New Boys, Bogan Pride, Hiding To Nothing, Dumb Ideas and Naden all demand multiple plays instantly. If those five were on an EP, it would be one of my favo(u)rites (my top pick being REM’s “Chronic Town” for the last 40 years). Some of the tunes here are so full of energy, they make you want to throw chairs through windows, smash up speakers, pogo wildly while being sprayed with a firehose full of grain alcohol. But yet as the record moves on there’s melody here – not just power and noise. There are chord changes that would do The Byrds proud. And the lyrics belie anger yet pride yet acceptance of one’s fate yet longing, whether it be for a woman, or for the old neighbourhood. We’re stuck in our rut here in Adelaide, stuck with the people, and we love it and them as much as we are angry about how difficult it is to break free. I am charmed by turns of phrase like “In the bush / And beating around” among others. The "Get in / Get out" of Bogan Pride screams anthem. The irony here is that the “dogs” are not anything like at bay, or if they are, they are barking and yapping and yipping and sometimes snarling and leaping behind a cyclone fence, just waiting to unleash themselves in their saliva and fury.

The best compliment I can pay this band is this: after a couple of listens, completely enthralled, I went to their website and found out Bad//Dreems will be in San Francisco in less than two weeks, playing a small club I know! But I will be out of town and I can’t get out of the trip. I am -- honestly -- almost as disappointed as I was when Benzema knocked in that penalty. It’s true: that’s how bummed I am to be missing these guys live. That this band is still (apparently) largely unknown outside of Australia is astounding, though maybe they wouldn’t want it any other way.

Well, I know them now, and the good news is that, like @southamptonblue, I can go on a different trip, hunting through the other records they’ve released. And to be honest, like Manchester City FC when they tour the States vs. playing at the Etihad, it’s probably best if I saw them live in Adelaide to get the full effect of their quite remarkable music and where it comes from culturally.

This is a triumphant album. I've spent days with these tunes in my head. It’s a better than a 9 . . . maybe a 9.5.

But we don’t do decimals, bitches.

10/10.

PS. When I start a band some day, I'm naming it "Idiot Wind" which these guys reference. Guess Dylan was an influence too!
 
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Well then.

This is, by a reasonable margin though certainly not a landslide, the best record this thread has produced. And I say that having given both The Drive-By Truckers and Michael Stearns 9s.

“Dogs At Bay” is the culmination of nearly 50 years of garage band rock and roll, winnowed down to the crunchiest walloping guitar hooks, and the strummiest tinktabulating, with a drummer who drives the songs at the ideal beats per minute (i.e. fast but not punk breakneck), and a tuneful bassist inserting himself at precisely the correct moments, and a singer who’s emerged unshowered and alternatively (1) raging from the primordial ooze like one of those orcs in Lord of the Rings, and (2) plaintively -- almost pathetically -- pleading for a lover to return. Take them all plus their music, then toss them into the dust and rocks and rust and beer and testosterone -- and the lower-income strata -- of Adelaide. It’s a place I’ve never been, but a place I feel like I know after listening to this record several times, and having watched all the videos I could find (which you should check out if you liked this by the way -– they have pitifully few YouTube views). What you get is a record and a band that feels unkempt and dirty, but extraordinarily tight; both brand new and fresh, but timeless as well. These are very rare combinations.

Listening to this I hear a few dozen influences, but no over-arching one. They certainly sound a lot less like The Replacements than I expected. Others have brought many artists up (like Saints) and so have I (The Feelies, who were an 80s version of Velvet Underground in many ways, is another I heard here, along with a smidge of Tom Petty, a dash of The Cure and a speck of REM). But that’s what makes this special. I hear influence, but absolutely no tributes, no copying, no homages. It’s defiant. It’s as if the band invented this music on their own without any influences, and only accidentally and sporadically sound like other bands, in bits and pieces. The fact that we can’t pigeonhole influence is IMO a mark of great distinction.

I don’t know where to go in ranking the stand-out tracks, because I loved so many. But New Boys, Bogan Pride, Hiding To Nothing, Dumb Ideas and Naden all demand multiple plays instantly. If those five were on an EP, it would be one of my favo(u)rites (my top pick being REM’s “Chronic Town” for the last 40 years). Some of the tunes here are so full of energy, they make you want to throw chairs through windows, smash up speakers, pogo wildly while being sprayed with a firehose full of grain alcohol. But yet as the record moves on there’s melody here – not just power and noise. There are chord changes that would do The Byrds proud. And the lyrics belie anger yet pride yet acceptance of one’s fate yet longing, whether it be for a woman, or for the old neighbourhood. We’re stuck in our rut here in Adelaide, stuck with the people, and we love it and them as much as we are angry about how difficult it is to break free. I am charmed by turns of phrase like “In the bush / And beating around” among others. The "Get in / Get out" of Bogan Pride screams anthem. The irony here is that the “dogs” are not anything like at bay, or if they are, they are barking and yapping and yipping and sometimes snarling and leaping behind a cyclone fence, just waiting to unleash themselves in their saliva and fury.

The best compliment I can pay this band is this: after a couple of listens, completely enthralled, I went to their website and found out Bad//Dreems will be in San Francisco in less than two weeks, playing a small club I know! But I will be out of town and I can’t get out of the trip. I am -- honestly -- almost as disappointed as I was when Benzema knocked in that penalty. It’s true: that’s how bummed I am to be missing these guys live. That this band is still (apparently) largely unknown outside of Australia is astounding, though maybe they wouldn’t want it any other way.

Well, I know them now, and the good news is that, like @southamptonblue, I can go on a different trip, hunting through the other records they’ve released. And to be honest, like Manchester City FC when they tour the States vs. playing at the Etihad, it’s probably best if I saw them live in Adelaide to get the full effect of their quite remarkable music and where it comes from culturally.

This is a triumphant album. I've spent days with these tunes in my head. It’s a better than a 9 . . . maybe a 9.5.

But we don’t do decimals, bitches.

10/10.

PS. When I start a band some day, I'm naming it "Idiot Wind" which these guys reference. Guess Dylan was an influence too!
Nice review. This was one of the few artists nominated here that I've never heard of and, like you, I'm surprised they're not know more widely.
 
Well then.

This is, by a reasonable margin though certainly not a landslide, the best record this thread has produced. And I say that having given both The Drive-By Truckers and Michael Stearns 9s.

“Dogs At Bay” is the culmination of nearly 50 years of garage band rock and roll, winnowed down to the crunchiest walloping guitar hooks, and the strummiest tinktabulating, with a drummer who drives the songs at the ideal beats per minute (i.e. fast but not punk breakneck), and a tuneful bassist inserting himself at precisely the correct moments, and a singer who’s emerged unshowered and alternatively (1) raging from the primordial ooze like one of those orcs in Lord of the Rings, and (2) plaintively -- almost pathetically -- pleading for a lover to return. Take them all plus their music, then toss them into the dust and rocks and rust and beer and testosterone -- and the lower-income strata -- of Adelaide. It’s a place I’ve never been, but a place I feel like I know after listening to this record several times, and having watched all the videos I could find (which you should check out if you liked this by the way -– they have pitifully few YouTube views). What you get is a record and a band that feels unkempt and dirty, but extraordinarily tight; both brand new and fresh, but timeless as well. These are very rare combinations.

Listening to this I hear a few dozen influences, but no over-arching one. They certainly sound a lot less like The Replacements than I expected. Others have brought many artists up (like Saints) and so have I (The Feelies, who were an 80s version of Velvet Underground in many ways, is another I heard here, along with a smidge of Tom Petty, a dash of The Cure and a speck of REM). But that’s what makes this special. I hear influence, but absolutely no tributes, no copying, no homages. It’s defiant. It’s as if the band invented this music on their own without any influences, and only accidentally and sporadically sound like other bands, in bits and pieces. The fact that we can’t pigeonhole influence is IMO a mark of great distinction.

I don’t know where to go in ranking the stand-out tracks, because I loved so many. But New Boys, Bogan Pride, Hiding To Nothing, Dumb Ideas and Naden all demand multiple plays instantly. If those five were on an EP, it would be one of my favo(u)rites (my top pick being REM’s “Chronic Town” for the last 40 years). Some of the tunes here are so full of energy, they make you want to throw chairs through windows, smash up speakers, pogo wildly while being sprayed with a firehose full of grain alcohol. But yet as the record moves on there’s melody here – not just power and noise. There are chord changes that would do The Byrds proud. And the lyrics belie anger yet pride yet acceptance of one’s fate yet longing, whether it be for a woman, or for the old neighbourhood. We’re stuck in our rut here in Adelaide, stuck with the people, and we love it and them as much as we are angry about how difficult it is to break free. I am charmed by turns of phrase like “In the bush / And beating around” among others. The "Get in / Get out" of Bogan Pride screams anthem. The irony here is that the “dogs” are not anything like at bay, or if they are, they are barking and yapping and yipping and sometimes snarling and leaping behind a cyclone fence, just waiting to unleash themselves in their saliva and fury.

The best compliment I can pay this band is this: after a couple of listens, completely enthralled, I went to their website and found out Bad//Dreems will be in San Francisco in less than two weeks, playing a small club I know! But I will be out of town and I can’t get out of the trip. I am -- honestly -- almost as disappointed as I was when Benzema knocked in that penalty. It’s true: that’s how bummed I am to be missing these guys live. That this band is still (apparently) largely unknown outside of Australia is astounding, though maybe they wouldn’t want it any other way.

Well, I know them now, and the good news is that, like @southamptonblue, I can go on a different trip, hunting through the other records they’ve released. And to be honest, like Manchester City FC when they tour the States vs. playing at the Etihad, it’s probably best if I saw them live in Adelaide to get the full effect of their quite remarkable music and where it comes from culturally.

This is a triumphant album. I've spent days with these tunes in my head. It’s a better than a 9 . . . maybe a 9.5.

But we don’t do decimals, bitches.

10/10.

PS. When I start a band some day, I'm naming it "Idiot Wind" which these guys reference. Guess Dylan was an influence too!
As soon as I heard this and it has been critically acclaimed I immediately thought of The Saints and The Replacements two of my favourite bands of all time.

I am not the least bit surprised they claim these two bands as amongst their major influences.

A perfect synergy of punk and alternative rock but as you say without blatant even subtle plagiarism.

I am a huge............. fan of the Replacements and always will be ( few songwriters better than Peter Westerberg IMO ) and while I could never rate this as highly as the likes of Let it Be ( not as thought provoking IMO which is what attracts me to artists and why I never grow tired of playing these daring albums ) I am not surprised you rate it highly Fog.

Opitz would not have taken them on unless they had melody , an in your face appeal and had no qualms about the subject matter , e.g. serial killers , bikie gangs and the like something that many don't gravitate to but they do it brilliantly.

I agree that they probably would have no qualms if they continued to play venues in SA on mass but they are more than talented enough and attract lovers of this raw sound to play in venues in San Fran and the UK and in Europe that latter of which they have.

Hope you get the chance to seem live sometime.
 
First impressions on first couple of minutes I enjoyed this, despite baseless reservations based on the look of the guys (I know!). Nothing startlingly original about it but it had a freshness all the same. It reminded, but not too much, of a pretty obscure punk band called Menace who when I googled them I read were the early forerunners of the likes of Sham 69 and the Angelic Upstarts, who this didn't really remind me of. Still, I don't mind a bit of distraction and the odd blind alley...

On repeated listens the allure faded a bit but not totally. In truth this is the sort of music and attitude that would have resonated more with me 20, 30 possibly 40 years ago and less so now. I did find some of it pretty tuneful and energetic, lyrically although aggressive at times also went beyond posturing and slogans.

It's unlikely that this makes it onto a permanent place on any playlist but if it came on randomly I wouldn't be looking to skip it. My initial thoughts on first couple of listens was that this was heading for a 7 but it failed to hold my attention as much as I'd hoped so drops one to 6.
 
Still a few hours to get your votes in.

This is the end of round #2, and I'll be putting the schedule for round #3 up later today.
If you've nominated an album in this round, you're automatically in for the next round.
Anybody who wants in, or out, just let me know.
 

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