The Bluemoon Song Cup 2023

Never really got the whole Stevie Nicks thing beyond the odd song or two tbh so pretty easy one for me this.

Ade Edmondson's folk band covered Down in the Tube Station a few years back and Edmondson changed the 'wine will be flat' to the 'wine will be warm'. Clearly the reference to dodgy late 70s fizzy wine was too much for his middle class sensibilities :-)
 
threespires said:
As bass players go Bruce Foxton was often as hooky as er... well ...Hooky.
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I'm not sure I'd go THAT far :) . . . but he was hookier than Paul Weller, which is one of my problems with some of The Jam's music. But their best stuff is still quite listenable. Also admittedly Yanks have a harder time "getting" them -- like some early Kinks, the Englishness of their topics/turns of phrase don't translate so well here IMO.
 
Big Joe Corrigan said:
The Butterfly Collector?
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Smithers-Jones. I always loved the lyrics. Sympathy for the regular old workaday sod who gets screwed over. And I always thought of it musically and lyrically as an Elanor Rigby counterpart (the string version on Setting Sons I mean -- someone here told me about the original version which sounds great too).
 
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stonerblue said:
Go on.......
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As above. I don't think Weller always has the knack for the hook, his melodies can be lacking, his riffs can be derivative, and his subjects a little too narrow. But -- again -- his band also did a number of songs with good hooks and melodies with novelty, a punch and interesting social commentary. I still love "In The City". So I just always viewed them more as a mixed bag rather than consistently great. I also think it was unfair for some music observer/critics to compare Weller to Townsend. I also never saw them live, and I bet they were great (and sounded better than on record).

The Yank not-quite-modern-day equivalent IMO would be Green Day (who's obviously less important and much more derivative).
 
I know he's not in this round but given the 'discussion' about him on this thread...

As I was wandering with my gelato I saw this and thought of both @Mad Eyed Screamer and @jimharri IMG_20230818_170851.jpg

Nice to know musical icons are given their due in Italy.

Jim, if you petition your local council I'm sure you can get something similar up in your neck of the woods ;-)
 
FogBlueInSanFran said:
I'm not sure I'd go THAT far :) . . . but he was hookier than Paul Weller, which is one of my problems with some of The Jam's music. But their best stuff is still quite listenable. Also admittedly Yanks have a harder time "getting" them -- like some early Kinks, the Englishness of their topics/turns of phrase don't translate so well here IMO.
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There's a decent amount of Jam songs where the hook is in the baseline rather than anything to do with Weller's melodies which were often focused on enabling the lyric. To your point I do think they embody a specific type of English sensibility that doesn't easily translate.
 
"I first felt a fist"...abit like I feel occasionally when I venture into the general football thread! ;-D

The Jam all day long. Never really bothered with Stevie Nicks as it was Debbie Harry for me.
 
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