The Boxing thread

He's not a good fighter, Zero head movement, Constantly flat footed is probably his biggest concern. He has three defeats now Billy Joe Saunders, Liam Smith and the one people tend to forget is George Groves who had a dislocated shoulder and beat him with one arm that night not only beat him but dismantled him. The fight would have went the same way last night as Smith gets better as thee rounds go on. Smith will spank him again in the rematch.
Problem is most casual boxing fans think having a stiff neck with zero head movement makes you a good boxer. I blame the Rocky movies for this misconception. I've seen boxing "fans" call Mayweather a coward for his style of ducking and moving from a punch, according to them, a real boxer should take the punches and bounce back...I mean that's how Rocky did it, right?
 
We all know Eubank isn’t getting within a million miles of headlining a PPV event and selling out the Arena without his name. But that’s hardly on him. If punters are prepared to pay, what’s he gonna do, insist the fight goes on at The York Hall on a Wednesday night?
Who in their right mind schedules such a low key fight to start at 11pm? Barking mad.
 
Problem is most casual boxing fans think having a stiff neck with zero head movement makes you a good boxer. I blame the Rocky movies for this misconception. I've seen boxing "fans" call Mayweather a coward for his style of ducking and moving from a punch, according to them, a real boxer should take the punches and bounce back...I mean that's how Rocky did it, right?

Another funny thing is people used to say Mayweather would run. When, in fact, he actually stood in the pocket more than many fighters. It’s not his fault he could fight in the pocket if needed and still hardly get it. He did have excellent movement and great feet, so he could mix it up and was extremely quick at getting out of range if needed and sensed danger. But most of the time he was well within range to land his pull counters, check hooks and things like that, and the whole purpose of those counter punches is being in range to bait your opponent but having the timing to make them pay. I would ask anybody to point me to one fight from around the De La Hoya fight to the end of his career where he actually ran or moved excessively. They won’t be able to.


Anyway in terms of the fight last night, I really didn’t expect Smith to stop Eubank, I don’t think anyone really did but that’s boxing. Smith is a very clever operator and excellent with his front foot pressure. if you watch just before the first time he dropped him, you can see that he realises Eubank exaggerates all his movements when you are feinting. So he just keeps feinting and using his front foot pressure and Eubank keeps exaggerating his movements backwards until he’s trapped in the corner. and it doesn’t really matter how good your chin is because when you’re in the corner and flustered you can’t really ride shots that well, you don’t really see them coming and one big punch in that situation when you’re completely vulnerable can hurt the best chins.

Eubank is a good athlete, but at 33 you’re athleticism is usually on the decline and you have to rely on your ring IQ and skills and he’s never been great in those departments. I don’t think 2 weight cuts in about four months has helped him either with his punch resistance. If you look throughout the history of boxing and take fighters that heavily relied on natural athleticism, instead of boxing craft, they were usually pretty much finished by their early 30’s.
 
Another funny thing is people used to say Mayweather would run. When, in fact, he actually stood in the pocket more than many fighters. It’s not his fault he could fight in the pocket if needed and still hardly get it. He did have excellent movement and great feet, so he could mix it up and was extremely quick at getting out of range if needed and sensed danger. But most of the time he was well within range to land his pull counters, check hooks and things like that, and the whole purpose of those counter punches is being in range to bait your opponent but having the timing to make them pay. I would ask anybody to point me to one fight from around the De La Hoya fight to the end of his career where he actually ran or moved excessively. They won’t be able to.


Anyway in terms of the fight last night, I really didn’t expect Smith to stop Eubank, I don’t think anyone really did but that’s boxing. Smith is a very clever operator and excellent with his front foot pressure. if you watch just before the first time he dropped him, you can see that he realises Eubank exaggerates all his movements when you are feinting. So he just keeps feinting and using his front foot pressure and Eubank keeps exaggerating his movements backwards until he’s trapped in the corner. and it doesn’t really matter how good your chin is because when you’re in the corner and flustered you can’t really ride shots that well, you don’t really see them coming and one big punch in that situation when you’re completely vulnerable can hurt the best chins.

Eubank is a good athlete, but at 33 you’re athleticism is usually on the decline and you have to rely on your ring IQ and skills and he’s never been great in those departments. I don’t think 2 weight cuts in about four months has helped him either with his punch resistance. If you look throughout the history of boxing and take fighters that heavily relied on natural athleticism, instead of boxing craft, they were usually pretty much finished by their early 30’s.
That's a fair an excellent summary
 
Problem is most casual boxing fans think having a stiff neck with zero head movement makes you a good boxer. I blame the Rocky movies for this misconception. I've seen boxing "fans" call Mayweather a coward for his style of ducking and moving from a punch, according to them, a real boxer should take the punches and bounce back...I mean that's how Rocky did it, right?
I've see people call Mayweather the exact same that's when I'd just walk away from those people. The name of the game is hit your opponent and avoid getting hit and Mayweather is the master at it!

I've seen people saying Eubank Jr is unbelievable ect...I know it's all about opinions, I think he's far from unbelievable he's a million miles away from it. Calling out GGG even before fighting Smith is an absolute joke. Why didn't he call out GGG when GGG was in his prime? Even now GGG would stop Eubank and that's him being in his 40's.

Smith got nowhere near enough credit to the build up to this fight, His boxing brain is above and beyond Eubank. He has a skill of closing off the ring and staying close to men with a longer reach. I thought he was magnificent last night especially the first two rounds.
 
I've see people call Mayweather the exact same that's when I'd just walk away from those people. The name of the game is hit your opponent and avoid getting hit and Mayweather is the master at it!

I've seen people saying Eubank Jr is unbelievable ect...I know it's all about opinions, I think he's far from unbelievable he's a million miles away from it. Calling out GGG even before fighting Smith is an absolute joke. Why didn't he call out GGG when GGG was in his prime? Even now GGG would stop Eubank and that's him being in his 40's.

Smith got nowhere near enough credit to the build up to this fight, His boxing brain is above and beyond Eubank. He has a skill of closing off the ring and staying close to men with a longer reach. I thought he was magnificent last night especially the first two rounds.
Lennox lewis used these exact same words to describe mayweather's fighting style. I saw the interview a while back and Lennox had a lot of fun trolling angry fat Americans who were upset that Mayweather defeated McGregor. For some strange reasons most Americans thought McGregor had a chance. I guess that explains why Rocky is such a hit in America. The comedian Bill Burr perfectly addressed this issue when he destroyed some dumb hecklers in Philadelphia.
 
Lennox lewis used these exact same words to describe mayweather's fighting style. I saw the interview a while back and Lennox had a lot of fun trolling angry fat Americans who were upset that Mayweather defeated McGregor. For some strange reasons most Americans thought McGregor had a chance. I guess that explains why Rocky is such a hit in America. The comedian Bill Burr perfectly addressed this issue when he destroyed some dumb hecklers in Philadelphia.
I made a very nice sum of money that night with Mayweather. I thought it was hilarious people thinking McGregor could win that fight.
Plus UFC fighters can't hit as hard as a boxer and I will always stand by that.
 

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