The Boxing thread

[Damocles]

My brother in law runs a local boxing club and is one of those "fans of the sweet science" types and he had some interesting comments today.

Basically suggested that the problem is that most Big Fight Only watchers are getting really annoyed at Mayweather fights not because of him, but because of the actual rules of the sport. A defensive fighter who can clinch and throw some potshots will ALWAYS beat an aggressive fighter of the same talent level because the referees allow them to stifle the fight. This stifling is well inside the rules and many in boxing, both as a profession and the hardcore set, see it as the perfect application of the sport where you take a defined ruleset and use them to the best of your advantage.

Essentially Mayweather/Pac was a boxing match and people wanted to see a fight which aren't the same things.

 

[TangerineSteve17]

My brother in law runs a local boxing club and is one of those "fans of the sweet science" types and he had some interesting comments today.

Basically suggested that the problem is that most Big Fight Only watchers are getting really annoyed at Mayweather fights not because of him, but because of the actual rules of the sport. A defensive fighter who can clinch and throw some potshots will ALWAYS beat an aggressive fighter of the same talent level because the referees allow them to stifle the fight. This stifling is well inside the rules and many in boxing, both as a profession and the hardcore set, see it as the perfect application of the sport where you take a defined ruleset and use them to the best of your advantage.

Essentially Mayweather/Pac was a boxing match and people wanted to see a fight which aren't the same things.

Yeah, that is true. Lennox used to say he was a pugilist specialist. Boxing is the art of hitting without getting hit apparently. But I would say the best boxing match has a mixture of both boxing and fighting. Generally a fighter comes forward throwing shots, and a boxer tends to counter punch.

Take Ward vs Gatti or Morales vs Barrera or Ayers vs Rigby type - those were fights. Slugfest I think they call it. Compulsive viewing for the sheer heart, but not a lot of 'boxing'

My favourite matches though are when there is a counter puncher, who tries not to get hit, who is up against a fighter who will slip or eat the jab all night to land his own shots and brings the 'boxer' down to his level. Like Benn and Eubank, Magee/Hatton, even Gomez/Khan to an extent. Thrilling bouts.

There is merit in both styles, but I think the boxer tends to beat the fighter.

 

[The Batman]

Mayweather vs Pac has done wonders for the UFC imo.
The fans wanted to see combat , instead we got jab and run tactics For 12 rounds. As mentioned before mayweather won because he exploited the rules to his advantage to win on 'points'. Mayweather landed very few solid shots but ate a few , if the fight went on until someone won it would have been pac in round 30.

 

[crooky]

Jamie foxxs rendition of the star spangled banner set the tone for what was to follow embarrassing and instantly forgettable.

Don't forget the full length Mexican national anthem which went on and on.

Reminded of this classic Borat troll.

[video]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLa65o1nok8[/video]

 

[Deleted member 41424]

can't see Floyd retiring at 49-0. At least 2 more fights left for me.

Floyd vs. Thurman? Marquez? Brook? Khan?
Pacquiao vs. Maidana? Bradley?

 

[TangerineSteve17]

49-0 equals Marciano. I know there is dubiousness surrounding his record though. I reckon 50 is a nice round number. Mayweather can eat 50 eggs.

 

[Malty]

One of the most anti-climatic and overhyped fights of all time.

Boxing doesn't have that "big fight" feel anymore in the Tyson, Lewis days. Even The Prince Naseem Hamed days I miss.

 

[Malty]

can't see Floyd retiring at 49-0. At least 2 more fights left for me.

Floyd vs. Thurman? Marquez? Brook? Khan?
Pacquiao vs. Maidana? Bradley?

Does Pacquiao want to be put on his arse again? he's a joke. It was like Fraudley came back for one night..

 

[Malty]

Lets not forget Jamie Foxx's singing though, best bit of the night. He will wake up in the morning cringing to fuck.

Most definitely this. Don't forget the accompanying hammond organ. Sounded like some pissed up,tone deaf coffin dodger playing. Hilarious.

When he came on the whole pub was like WTF is he doing? cringey as feck.

 

[ianw16]

One of the most anti-climatic and overhyped fights of all time.

Boxing doesn't have that "big fight" feel anymore in the Tyson, Lewis days. Even The Prince Naseem Hamed days I miss.

Tyson? Yes, I'll give you that, although he didn't last that long. The rest you mention are nobodies.