The Boxing thread

JoeMercer'sWay said:
just watched webb/aaron for British LM tonight, Droylsden lad Aaron stopped Webb in the 12th, went to go up on his trainer's shoulders and his trainer dropped him head first lol. Then they went for it again and he nearly dropped him again, but he eventually managed to get up, funny stuff.

Seen a replay when I got up this morning wasnt a bad a fight but the trainer dropping him on his head done more damage than Webb done all night.

See Sky are showing the Ward v Abraham fight on Sunday morning at 11 am a replay tight fucking bastards wouldnt show the fight live. Then the following week they are doing the same with the Hopkins v Pascal fight better than nothing but with 4 live sport stations you would of thought they would of found room for the fights live.
 
conormcfc said:
I think Froch can beat Ward if he goes in with the right gameplan. Ward never impresses me and he's certainly not future P4P material for my money.

King Arthur hasnt impressed since his move up to Super Middleweight 3 looses and the last 2 he was outclassed. Ward v Froch in the final would be great. I think Froch takes it Carl can bang when he needs to and his boxing has been getting better and better as the years go on. Saying that I think Bute beats both Froch and Ward by KO against Ward and points against Froch.
Next weekend I think Groves will beat Degale and Cleverly to win the World title I expect Cleverly to dominate the light heavyweight division in the coming years thats how highly I rate Clev.
 
http://espn.go.com/sports/boxing/blog/_/name/rafael_dan/id/6569986/khan-antes-get-bradley-ring

They have so far been unable to close a deal for the July 23 HBO fight because Bradley has balked at Shaw's minimum guarantee of $1.3 million against 80 percent of their side's profits, so Schaefer has been talking to other opponents.

However, Khan apparently really, really, really wants the fight. Schaefer told me Khan authorized him to make it a straight 50-50 deal. Under the original proposal (which was fair), they would split everything 50-50, except Khan would keep his British pay-per-view money. This week, Schaefer said Khan told him to give Bradley's side 50 percent of the U.K. TV money, too -- even though we all know Bradley is no draw whatsoever and adds little to the pay-per-view in terms of real money.

That's how badly Khan wants the fight.

Bradley is now ducking Khan.
 
conormcfc said:
http://espn.go.com/sports/boxing/blog/_/name/rafael_dan/id/6569986/khan-antes-get-bradley-ring

They have so far been unable to close a deal for the July 23 HBO fight because Bradley has balked at Shaw's minimum guarantee of $1.3 million against 80 percent of their side's profits, so Schaefer has been talking to other opponents.

However, Khan apparently really, really, really wants the fight. Schaefer told me Khan authorized him to make it a straight 50-50 deal. Under the original proposal (which was fair), they would split everything 50-50, except Khan would keep his British pay-per-view money. This week, Schaefer said Khan told him to give Bradley's side 50 percent of the U.K. TV money, too -- even though we all know Bradley is no draw whatsoever and adds little to the pay-per-view in terms of real money.

That's how badly Khan wants the fight.

Bradley is now ducking Khan.
I don't think it's quite as straight forward as that mate.

HBO guaranteed Bradley $1.1m for his next fight regardless of who it was against. He was offered $1.3m for the Khan fight. It makes more sense for him to take the $1.1m in a more winnable fight, and then fight Khan for $1.3m, or maybe more.

I suppose, technically he is ducking him, but i can at least see the logic behind it. He's not a ticket seller so i guess he wants to max out his paydays.
 
ono said:
conormcfc said:
http://espn.go.com/sports/boxing/blog/_/name/rafael_dan/id/6569986/khan-antes-get-bradley-ring

They have so far been unable to close a deal for the July 23 HBO fight because Bradley has balked at Shaw's minimum guarantee of $1.3 million against 80 percent of their side's profits, so Schaefer has been talking to other opponents.

However, Khan apparently really, really, really wants the fight. Schaefer told me Khan authorized him to make it a straight 50-50 deal. Under the original proposal (which was fair), they would split everything 50-50, except Khan would keep his British pay-per-view money. This week, Schaefer said Khan told him to give Bradley's side 50 percent of the U.K. TV money, too -- even though we all know Bradley is no draw whatsoever and adds little to the pay-per-view in terms of real money.

That's how badly Khan wants the fight.

Bradley is now ducking Khan.
I don't think it's quite as straight forward as that mate.

HBO guaranteed Bradley $1.1m for his next fight regardless of who it was against. He was offered $1.3m for the Khan fight. It makes more sense for him to take the $1.1m in a more winnable fight, and then fight Khan for $1.3m, or maybe more.

I suppose, technically he is ducking him, but i can at least see the logic behind it. He's not a ticket seller so i guess he wants to max out his paydays.
I know about that mate, but Khan has offered him even better terms now with $1.4m guaranteed and 50% of the UK PPV sales. So he'd be getting a helluva lot more than 1.3mill for fighting Khan now.
 
UK PPV sales for Khan V Bradley will be shit who in there right mind would spend £15 to watch a Khan fight if there was no takers on Khan v McCloskey which was on in the UK at 10 pm local time. Khan will more than likely end up fighting at 5 am these fights are never good PPV buys in the UK and Ireland on that basis. Thats why Sky dont charge for Pacman or Money fights in the last few years.

Hope that there will be a stream on tonights fight. No way am I buying a British title fight on a PPV. Fancy Groves tonight to shut up Degale who hasnt even got tagged in a fight yet. Groves has a lot of heart and I think he could well cause the so called upset and get a late stoppage tonight.

Also Clev fighting another bum for the WBO title its not a good card from Warren and I am surprised that Sky have still got this on Box Office the Khan card was better than this 1. Frankie Gavin fight should be a decent fight as well Warren should be pushing him on a bit he is in my opinion Warrens best fighter but Warren is too busy pushing Degale.
 
leighton said:
UK PPV sales for Khan V Bradley will be shit who in there right mind would spend £15 to watch a Khan fight if there was no takers on Khan v McCloskey which was on in the UK at 10 pm local time. Khan will more than likely end up fighting at 5 am these fights are never good PPV buys in the UK and Ireland on that basis. Thats why Sky dont charge for Pacman or Money fights in the last few years.

Hope that there will be a stream on tonights fight. No way am I buying a British title fight on a PPV. Fancy Groves tonight to shut up Degale who hasnt even got tagged in a fight yet. Groves has a lot of heart and I think he could well cause the so called upset and get a late stoppage tonight.

Also Clev fighting another bum for the WBO title its not a good card from Warren and I am surprised that Sky have still got this on Box Office the Khan card was better than this 1. Frankie Gavin fight should be a decent fight as well Warren should be pushing him on a bit he is in my opinion Warrens best fighter but Warren is too busy pushing Degale.
The reason degale hasnt been tagged yet is down to his quick reflexes & good defence after all thats the name of the game TO HIT & NOT BE HIT anyone who knows about boxing will tell you that .
 
pips said:
leighton said:
UK PPV sales for Khan V Bradley will be shit who in there right mind would spend £15 to watch a Khan fight if there was no takers on Khan v McCloskey which was on in the UK at 10 pm local time. Khan will more than likely end up fighting at 5 am these fights are never good PPV buys in the UK and Ireland on that basis. Thats why Sky dont charge for Pacman or Money fights in the last few years.

Hope that there will be a stream on tonights fight. No way am I buying a British title fight on a PPV. Fancy Groves tonight to shut up Degale who hasnt even got tagged in a fight yet. Groves has a lot of heart and I think he could well cause the so called upset and get a late stoppage tonight.

Also Clev fighting another bum for the WBO title its not a good card from Warren and I am surprised that Sky have still got this on Box Office the Khan card was better than this 1. Frankie Gavin fight should be a decent fight as well Warren should be pushing him on a bit he is in my opinion Warrens best fighter but Warren is too busy pushing Degale.
The reason degale hasnt been tagged yet is down to his quick reflexes & good defence after all thats the name of the game TO HIT & NOT BE HIT anyone who knows about boxing will tell you that .

I know about boxing. Just this fight will be DeGales first real test. As they say someones 0 has to go. Warren in Degales first couple of fights played it safe until his last fight and this and its nice to see him step it up. Saying that he is far to cocky for a fighter who hasnt proved anything. He even thinks he is up to world level already. The super middleweight division is full of top class fighters. If I was Warren if he beats Groves put him in with Brian Magee next and then move him in for a European title fight. To move him up against Bute or any of the fighters in the Super 6 is crazy.
 
leighton said:
pips said:
leighton said:
UK PPV sales for Khan V Bradley will be shit who in there right mind would spend £15 to watch a Khan fight if there was no takers on Khan v McCloskey which was on in the UK at 10 pm local time. Khan will more than likely end up fighting at 5 am these fights are never good PPV buys in the UK and Ireland on that basis. Thats why Sky dont charge for Pacman or Money fights in the last few years.

Hope that there will be a stream on tonights fight. No way am I buying a British title fight on a PPV. Fancy Groves tonight to shut up Degale who hasnt even got tagged in a fight yet. Groves has a lot of heart and I think he could well cause the so called upset and get a late stoppage tonight.

Also Clev fighting another bum for the WBO title its not a good card from Warren and I am surprised that Sky have still got this on Box Office the Khan card was better than this 1. Frankie Gavin fight should be a decent fight as well Warren should be pushing him on a bit he is in my opinion Warrens best fighter but Warren is too busy pushing Degale.
The reason degale hasnt been tagged yet is down to his quick reflexes & good defence after all thats the name of the game TO HIT & NOT BE HIT anyone who knows about boxing will tell you that .

I know about boxing. Just this fight will be DeGales first real test. As they say someones 0 has to go. Warren in Degales first couple of fights played it safe until his last fight and this and its nice to see him step it up. Saying that he is far to cocky for a fighter who hasnt proved anything. He even thinks he is up to world level already. The super middleweight division is full of top class fighters. If I was Warren if he beats Groves put him in with Brian Magee next and then move him in for a European title fight. To move him up against Bute or any of the fighters in the Super 6 is crazy.
I'd say Paul Smith was a real test.
 
ono said:
leighton said:
pips said:
The reason degale hasnt been tagged yet is down to his quick reflexes & good defence after all thats the name of the game TO HIT & NOT BE HIT anyone who knows about boxing will tell you that .

I know about boxing. Just this fight will be DeGales first real test. As they say someones 0 has to go. Warren in Degales first couple of fights played it safe until his last fight and this and its nice to see him step it up. Saying that he is far to cocky for a fighter who hasnt proved anything. He even thinks he is up to world level already. The super middleweight division is full of top class fighters. If I was Warren if he beats Groves put him in with Brian Magee next and then move him in for a European title fight. To move him up against Bute or any of the fighters in the Super 6 is crazy.
I'd say Paul Smith was a real test.
Yes i agree with you before the fight a lot of people were saying smiyh would be to experienced for degale & would outclass him but it turned out to be the opposite also degale is to fast for magee & if he wins tonight would be looking at better fighters to get it on with .
 
leighton said:
UK PPV sales for Khan V Bradley will be shit who in there right mind would spend £15 to watch a Khan fight if there was no takers on Khan v McCloskey which was on in the UK at 10 pm local time. Khan will more than likely end up fighting at 5 am these fights are never good PPV buys in the UK and Ireland on that basis. Thats why Sky dont charge for Pacman or Money fights in the last few years.
Bradley would still be getting a wedge for taking the fight. 1.4mill guaranteed, PLUS 50% of the UK PPV sales. It's madness on his part not to take it.
 
conormcfc said:
leighton said:
UK PPV sales for Khan V Bradley will be shit who in there right mind would spend £15 to watch a Khan fight if there was no takers on Khan v McCloskey which was on in the UK at 10 pm local time. Khan will more than likely end up fighting at 5 am these fights are never good PPV buys in the UK and Ireland on that basis. Thats why Sky dont charge for Pacman or Money fights in the last few years.
Bradley would still be getting a wedge for taking the fight. 1.4mill guaranteed, PLUS 50% of the UK PPV sales. It's madness on his part not to take it.
Bradley is already on a guarenteed 1.3 mill regardless of who he fights, thats been his argument
 
softlad said:
On that note, has anyone noticed any streams for tonight?!

Looking forward to this evenings fights but seriously begrudge paying £15 for it.
Sky really do take the piss sometimes, hopefully some streams will appear as per usual, my money is on De Gale but ideally I want Groves to win as he comes across as a nice kid while De Gale is a tosser(a very talented one at that)

Think Cleverley might struggle tonight to a points victory, shame Bellow couldn't make the weight as that would have been a good fight. Frankie Gavin and Young Mutley should be a good scrap with Gavin winning inside 8 rounds and last but not least Billy Joe Saunders always impresses me so its a pretty good bill.
 
SuperKevinHorlock said:
softlad said:
On that note, has anyone noticed any streams for tonight?!

Looking forward to this evenings fights but seriously begrudge paying £15 for it.
Sky really do take the piss sometimes, hopefully some streams will appear as per usual, my money is on De Gale but ideally I want Groves to win as he comes across as a nice kid while De Gale is a tosser(a very talented one at that)

Think Cleverley might struggle tonight to a points victory, shame Bellow couldn't make the weight as that would have been a good fight. Frankie Gavin and Young Mutley should be a good scrap with Gavin winning inside 8 rounds and last but not least Billy Joe Saunders always impresses me so its a pretty good bill.


Agreed mate, especially on the bold points, cracking little line-up this.
 
Im not sure about cleverly theres a lot of people comparing him to calzaghi but the only thing they have in common is they both come from wales thats about it really joe was a great boxer i dont think cleverly will reach the same heights .
 

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