The Boxing thread

[Adidas Sharston]

Just heard about Groves v Murray on the undercard, looking forward to that.

 

[leighton]

Just heard about Groves v Murray on the undercard, looking forward to that.

Got to say both guys will fight anyone think George will have too much and might win on points if he gets a late stopage it will be some statement whoever win gets a title shot.

James DeGale next weekend should be a decent fight too think DeGale wins but would like to see him trying to get a unification fight sometime sooner rather than later.

 

[MarkumCity]

Groves Murray should be a cracker. Murray's a tough tough man but GGG punched some of that out of him and facing a naturally bigger man and probably a better boxer is a tough ask at his age.

You can't blame Fast Eddie for tricking the gullible casual boxing fan by making all AJ's fights PPV but it sticks in my craw to see the totally unproven AJ trousering small fortunes for knocking over bums

DeGale's lined up to face the winner of Jack/Bute before the inevitable rematch with Groves if he keeps winning

 

[Adidas Sharston]

Got to say both guys will fight anyone think George will have too much and might win on points if he gets a late stopage it will be some statement whoever win gets a title shot.

James DeGale next weekend should be a decent fight too think DeGale wins but would like to see him trying to get a unification fight sometime sooner rather than later.

Yeah i'd go with Groves on points, think his jab will be the difference. Fair play to both for taking the fight.

 

[bluemc1]

AJ has just caught on with the public, Olympic gold, built like an Adonis, KO artist, says the right things
He's our De-La-Hoya. All my mates who are just casual fans now ( well his last 2 fights ) we organise a poker night, get in someone's man cave and book the fight
Hearn is just making what he can out of it

 

[Armaan]

AJ has just caught on with the public, Olympic gold, built like an Adonis, KO artist, says the right things
He's our De-La-Hoya. All my mates who are just casual fans now ( well his last 2 fights ) we organise a poker night, get in someone's man cave and book the fight
Hearn is just making what he can out of it

So far he's been nothing but media driven hype, and to be fair to them it's worked. I doubt even they themselves expected it to work this well but AJ already has a huge casual fan base. What's sad is how a lot of the same people never supported Amir Khan when he was given the same treatment, I remember going to the Barrera fight and there was loads of English lads with Mexican flags and hats supporting Barrera. Found that quite sad.

 

[Adidas Sharston]

Apparently contracts have been signed between Kovalev v Ward for a fight in the fall.

Really hope this is true.

 

[MarkumCity]

Apparently contracts have been signed between Kovalev v Ward for a fight in the fall.

Really hope this is true.

Fascinating matchup if it's true. Ward's so good he can smother the life out of fights so it might not be pure entertainment but I'd expect Krusher's sheer weight of shot to open him up.

Looks like Kovalev v Stevenson isn't gonna happen now. Big shame, that's the fight I've most wanted to see in the last few years

 

[Metalartin]

Groves Murray should be a cracker. Murray's a tough tough man but GGG punched some of that out of him and facing a naturally bigger man and probably a better boxer is a tough ask at his age.

You can't blame Fast Eddie for tricking the gullible casual boxing fan by making all AJ's fights PPV but it sticks in my craw to see the totally unproven AJ trousering small fortunes for knocking over bums

DeGale's lined up to face the winner of Jack/Bute before the inevitable rematch with Groves if he keeps winning

The thing is though the heavyweight division is littered with bums compared to AJ, he's bringing the excitement which has been lacking, he's not been at pro level all that long and tries to give fans realistic expectations when he does speak to the press. As for Hearn he is just doing his job, AJ isn't ready for Fury, Klitschko or Haye yet and they've been honest about that... but IMO he will be in time if he continues on the path of progression he's on. He need's to climb levels rather than jump right in, maybe some more lesser known but dangerous undefeated fighters then onto Wilder or Parker then go for the mega fights until he is the mega fight. Wilder is someone I think AJ has already surpassed(skills, power, quality of opponent about the same, got there sooner too), he's been knocking out bums and enjoying the hype train for way longer. I'd like to see that fight made, maybe put him in with a couple more dangerous opponents first but get there before Fury does.

 

[MarkumCity]

The thing is though the heavyweight division is littered with bums compared to AJ, he's bringing the excitement which has been lacking, he's not been at pro level all that long and tries to give fans realistic expectations when he does speak to the press. As for Hearn he is just doing his job, AJ isn't ready for Fury, Klitschko or Haye yet and they've been honest about that... but IMO he will be in time if he continues on the path of progression he's on. He need's to climb levels rather than jump right in, maybe some more lesser known but dangerous undefeated fighters then onto Wilder or Parker then go for the mega fights until he is the mega fight. Wilder is someone I think AJ has already surpassed(skills, power, quality of opponent about the same, got there sooner too), he's been knocking out bums and enjoying the hype train for way longer. I'd like to see that fight made, maybe put him in with a couple more dangerous opponents first but get there before Fury does.

I agree with pretty much everything you say. I don't resent AJ earning big bucks per se, it's one tough way to make a living, but I suppose I don't feel he's earned his stripes in that regard yet compared to other boxers but as you say that's down to Eddie's salesmanship. It's the hype that annoys me and the way the general public probably have AJ and Fury as equals even though Fury's the lineal champ.

One point I disagree with you on is Wilder. Yep he's fought his share of no hopers but for me what he showed against Stiverne is a level or two above anything AJ's shown yet although he has had twice as many fights.