The Boxing thread

leighton said:
I like Brook too have a lot of time for him. Saying that Errol Spence Jnr looks the real deal for me. I honestly think he can be 1 of the pound 4 pound best guys fighting out there. This is a huge fight for Brook. I dont know if he is finding it hard to make his weight or not but he will be tested big time and I just get the feeling were going to see something special during the fight and Kells big night ending in a bad bad way.
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i thought that when he fought in america.

I actually believed he lost on points until he was announced the NEWWWWW
 
Man_City_Loyal said:
He won the same way Lee Selby did against Simion which was a UD (Simion has lost twice in his career now), looking at both fighters after wards try telling me who came off worse Quigg or Simion??

Scott Quigg won the latter rounds in that Frampton fight, but was slow to start. Perhaps a different trainer would of instilled confidence in him on the get go. Fact he fought on with a fractured jaw.

I know Scott's family, and get tickets off his brother (who was the better boxer out of the 2) and trust me under Hatton he never got anywhere, and since the Frampton fight he has barely heard off Matchroom.

3 best managed fighters on Matchroom are Crolla, AJ and Kell Brook.
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IF you know the family so be it. I still think Quigg is all heart go forward type of fighter when he gets tagged he has no plan b or c. The Frampton fight showcased his heart as Carl broke his jaw. Regarding Matchroom Hearn has always been that way with fighters your flavour of the month then he forgets about them. Look at Frampton always a huge big ticket seller over in Belfast Hearn had him and wasnt looking after him. Moved with McGugian and Cyclone Promotions and Hearn at the time was all over Quigg he let Frampton go at the wrong time as Framptons went up and up and up. Fighting in the US boxing all over the place for 2 years making good money too. His link up with Al Haymon has paid off. No wonder Lee Selby has split with Hearn he should of been the face of Welsh boxing under Eddie Hearn if it was his dad running it still Selby and Frampton would be still Matchroom fighters earning him big money.
With Hearn at times you got to be the flavour of the month and putting on the big shows and getting fans on the seats. Sadly for Quigg he has failed to do that on his own as the headline act. Apart from maybe the Frampton fight which was bulit up for years he wouldnt be a huge ticket seller same as Selby over poor promotions by Hearn. Thats why Quigg is supporting AJ in his fights. Look around the UK and the fighters out there. All the Liverpool fighters Bellew sells as he is a loud mouth. The Smiths sell well too its a hot bed of boxing. The Yafais in Birmingham will do well both well sell out big shows there. Even up in Scotland you could see when you got Ricky Burns , Manchester you got Crolla , Sheffield you got Brook , London you got AJ. Now we got a few new faces who if promoted well will open up other locations. IF Ryan Burnett wins the world title you can add Belfast to that list. Also down in Dublin Katie Taylor will sell out the 3 arena whenever she fights over here. So he has places were he can get fighters in and some places where he has lost out.
 
leighton said:
IF you know the family so be it. I still think Quigg is all heart go forward type of fighter when he gets tagged he has no plan b or c. The Frampton fight showcased his heart as Carl broke his jaw. Regarding Matchroom Hearn has always been that way with fighters your flavour of the month then he forgets about them. Look at Frampton always a huge big ticket seller over in Belfast Hearn had him and wasnt looking after him. Moved with McGugian and Cyclone Promotions and Hearn at the time was all over Quigg he let Frampton go at the wrong time as Framptons went up and up and up. Fighting in the US boxing all over the place for 2 years making good money too. His link up with Al Haymon has paid off. No wonder Lee Selby has split with Hearn he should of been the face of Welsh boxing under Eddie Hearn if it was his dad running it still Selby and Frampton would be still Matchroom fighters earning him big money.
With Hearn at times you got to be the flavour of the month and putting on the big shows and getting fans on the seats. Sadly for Quigg he has failed to do that on his own as the headline act. Apart from maybe the Frampton fight which was bulit up for years he wouldnt be a huge ticket seller same as Selby over poor promotions by Hearn. Thats why Quigg is supporting AJ in his fights. Look around the UK and the fighters out there. All the Liverpool fighters Bellew sells as he is a loud mouth. The Smiths sell well too its a hot bed of boxing. The Yafais in Birmingham will do well both well sell out big shows there. Even up in Scotland you could see when you got Ricky Burns , Manchester you got Crolla , Sheffield you got Brook , London you got AJ. Now we got a few new faces who if promoted well will open up other locations. IF Ryan Burnett wins the world title you can add Belfast to that list. Also down in Dublin Katie Taylor will sell out the 3 arena whenever she fights over here. So he has places were he can get fighters in and some places where he has lost out.
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people seem to forget Scott for many a year had around 500 - 1000 crowds around the northwest. That's changed slightly, but with the amount of local boxers we have its hard to get the fan base Ricky Hatton of Frampton had/have.

Look at Terry Flanagan, struggles to sell tickets and would do under matchroom aswell.

Ant Crolla, only since his attack on him has he started getting the fans following him, again was always a salford hardcore following him.

Crolla/Quigg show in Manchester the other year, Crolla fought Murray, the arena was barely full and loads of trouble.

Tyson Fury is another poor ticket seller, although he'd do a lot more under Matchroom.

Bad thing for Scott was before that Frampton fight he had fights in America lined up IF he beat Frampton.

Still a 2nd match lined up for the pair of them, but if that happens it will be at a different weight and in Belfast.
 
Man_City_Loyal said:
people seem to forget Scott for many a year had around 500 - 1000 crowds around the northwest. That's changed slightly, but with the amount of local boxers we have its hard to get the fan base Ricky Hatton of Frampton had/have.

Look at Terry Flanagan, struggles to sell tickets and would do under matchroom aswell.

Ant Crolla, only since his attack on him has he started getting the fans following him, again was always a salford hardcore following him.

Crolla/Quigg show in Manchester the other year, Crolla fought Murray, the arena was barely full and loads of trouble.

Tyson Fury is another poor ticket seller, although he'd do a lot more under Matchroom.

Bad thing for Scott was before that Frampton fight he had fights in America lined up IF he beat Frampton.

Still a 2nd match lined up for the pair of them, but if that happens it will be at a different weight and in Belfast.
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Yeah the rematch with Quigg and Frampton might not happen. Carl won in Manchester and he is more so chasing the LSC fight again. Also he wants to fight Lee Selby that was his next fight before the rematch with LSC. Thats boxing for you. It can all change after 1 bad night. Honestly feel Quigg with Freddie Roach might be the wrong gym. Roach has a lot of fighters out there all trying to impress he could get lost out there. In a daft way always felt if he was to move out of Gallachers gym he would of ended up with a more technical trainer locally so a Adam Booth type or Rob McCracken may of been better suited and given him more time.
 
leighton said:
Yeah the rematch with Quigg and Frampton might not happen. Carl won in Manchester and he is more so chasing the LSC fight again. Also he wants to fight Lee Selby that was his next fight before the rematch with LSC. Thats boxing for you. It can all change after 1 bad night. Honestly feel Quigg with Freddie Roach might be the wrong gym. Roach has a lot of fighters out there all trying to impress he could get lost out there. In a daft way always felt if he was to move out of Gallachers gym he would of ended up with a more technical trainer locally so a Adam Booth type or Rob McCracken may of been better suited and given him more time.
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dont see him with freddie for long. i agree needs a uk based trainer
 
Gervonta Davis looks good i be a bit surprised if he stays in that weight division for long think he will move up within the next 3 to 4 fights. Him against Lomachenko would be a great fight to see but i think he needs maybe 3 more fights to be ready for Lomachenko IF Lomachenko stays in the division. Can see him and Davis going up to Lightweight and both winning a World title.
 
leighton said:
Gervonta Davis looks good i be a bit surprised if he stays in that weight division for long think he will move up within the next 3 to 4 fights. Him against Lomachenko would be a great fight to see but i think he needs maybe 3 more fights to be ready for Lomachenko IF Lomachenko stays in the division. Can see him and Davis going up to Lightweight and both winning a World title.
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Yeah he's only 22 isn't he? Pretty sure he will outgrow that division soon
 
The uncle Dirrel should be banned for life after that shit. It is a shocking thing to see from a corner team member to do. No matter how shit your fighter has done either way respect the other fighter and his team. The lad wasnt even expecting it a few free shots its a terrible thing for boxing.
Boxing is trying to win back some of there supporters from the UFC and have been doing well in that regard with some brilliant fights over the last year or so let people talk about the fighters and not the bullshit from the corner.
 
I see dillian whyte has pulled out of his fight with mariusz walsh on june 3rd at 02 arena. Ten minutes later Chisora pulls out of his rematch in Helsinki with robert helenius on may 27th. This was announced before last night's tragic events.. Maybe a rematch on the cards .?

Teddy atlas was asked who he'd want next to him in a bar room fight, strange question but he said GGG.. on reflection, id go with zabba.
 
Adidas Sharston said:
I see dillian whyte has pulled out of his fight with mariusz walsh on june 3rd at 02 arena. Ten minutes later Chisora pulls out of his rematch in Helsinki with robert helenius on may 27th. This was announced before last night's tragic events.. Maybe a rematch on the cards .?

Teddy atlas was asked who he'd want next to him in a bar room fight, strange question but he said GGG.. on reflection, id go with zabba.
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Went Helsinki to watch Froch v Abraham, as we were turning up at the venue 100s were coming out, we thought we'd got our times wrong and missed the fight
We asked someone coming out " is it over " and someone said " yes Helenius won "
They weren't even staying for the main event :)
 
bluemc1 said:
Went Helsinki to watch Froch v Abraham, as we were turning up at the venue 100s were coming out, we thought we'd got our times wrong and missed the fight
We asked someone coming out " is it over " and someone said " yes Helenius won "
They weren't even staying for the main event :)
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I don't get punters standing at the bar all night only to watch one fight, especially when you can usually take your beer in. Saw frampton in brooklyn last july, nearly all the LSC fans in their seats from the off. That said it was $15 a scoop, i've had cheaper brass ; )
 
Adidas Sharston said:
I don't get punters standing at the bar all night only to watch one fight, especially when you can usually take your beer in. Saw frampton in brooklyn last july, nearly all the LSC fans in their seats from the off. That said it was $15 a scoop, i've had cheaper brass ; )
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I think it depends on the venue and the card. IF it doesnt have a good card with say a couple of local based fighters on the card then the locals will stay out in the bars which is sad. I think with everything the last show i was at in Dublin a Matchroom show with Mathew Macklin fighting. But Hearn done a smart thing and had a host of local fighters on the bill fighting. He is doing it again up in Belfast for the Ryan Burnett world title fight. Now dont get me wrong its a cheap card for Hearn to put on but for those there those local grudge fights can be brilliant to see too. So on the undercard I think big Tommy McCarthy is fighting Mike Perez the Cork based Cuban is the big local undercard fight which will be a great match up while it lasts. Also it be jammed packed with a lot of talented Irish boxers all over the bill too. Paul Hyland Jnr looks a good prospect might win a European title but just lacks the power to be a World champion for me is also on the card and Tyrone McCullagh too who I want to see going up in class think he will go far can bang a bit.
 
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