The Boxing thread

Manchester_lalala said:
Started to lose interest in boxing when Mayweather and Pac avoided each other in their primes. Joshua will never fight Fury or Wilder now even though we should have seen both fights years ago when the hype was sky high. Something needs to change to stop this from happening.
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Seeded championship fights should be mandatory. There should be no choice between the promoters and fighters. It’s like Liverpool not fancying playing us next weekend so Klopp declining to play us.

Fans should never be robbed of Mayweather v Pacquiao, and to a lesser extent Fury v Joshua.

Saying that, I think if the best all fought each other regularly, Joshua wouldn’t be seeded near the top, I think he’s very average.
 
Psychedelic Casual said:
Seeded championship fights should be mandatory. There should be no choice between the promoters and fighters. It’s like Liverpool not fancying playing us next weekend so Klopp declining to play us.

Fans should never be robbed of Mayweather v Pacquiao, and to a lesser extent Fury v Joshua.

Saying that, I think if the best all fought each other regularly, Joshua wouldn’t be seeded near the top, I think he’s very average.
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Wilder would spark him and Fury is the giant version of Usyk. He won't see them belts again.
 
RandomJ said:
Yeah I used to like watching him fight for his power and knowing he could knock anyone out if he caught them cleanly but somewhere down the line he tried to become a proper boxer and his career has nosedived since.
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He had to box eventually against better opponents. Look what happened when he went swinging against the little fat fella
 
Metalartin said:
Well if your measuring stick for top class is that, then nobody at HW bar AJ has fought a world class boxer in their prime.

Ruiz Jr is nothing like Usyk either and he got his head boxed off in the the rematch. He would have done coming in at the same weight he was in the first fight. He's never had good footwork, that's how AJ beats him 9-10. I also love how people dismiss the problems AJ had before the first fight and then make excuses for Ruiz Jr who didn't win a single round. Someone from Ruiz Jrs camp(Micheal Hunter) let slip that Ruiz Jr had a great camp missed one day for a cold and that's it. Yet Ruiz Jr and his team made excuses before they even left the ring about that camp.

AJ still beats anyone else in the top 10, the only question mark is Fury. Usyk beats Fury too and I don't see Fury ever taking that fight. Usyk is miles above Fury as a boxer and there's no way Fury stops Usyk... So how does he win that fight?
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Im not dismissing AJ's whole ability. He has amazing power and an ability to adjust in the match. I just think a top class boxer in their prime beats him which happened tonight. AJ is far too shot shy and his footwork not exceptional.

I'm not sure about Usyk against Fury but as you say that fight won't happen.
 
01cravend said:
Problem with AJ is he stopped using his power to overwhelm opponents and instead has tried to become a Klitschko and just use power in a jab to keep distance for 12 rounds and win on points or vs rubbish opponents tire them and finish in the late rounds. He's not got the ring smarts or technical arsenal those 2 brothers had though so has and will continue to come undone vs capable fighters.
I'm not even sure AJ could beat Wilder and he can barely box.
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Totally agree. Not sure what the thinking was regarding the leaning out for this, presumably his camp thought he would be faster on his feet, more agile...but tactically he didn’t box that way...very puzzling.
 
And suddenly all the z-list celebs and clout chasers don't support AJ anymore. Like Manchester United syndrome, sycophantic cunts.

Beaten by a man with a far superior boxing IQ. Usyk was always the massive favourite, as long as he managed to stay on his feet. AJ came in light and tried to outbox one of the best in the world, odd tactics. Still a British boxing legend and should be given massive credit and respect.

If Fury gets through Wilder, what a match up that Usyk fight will be now for the undisputed.
 
argyle said:
I don't think Wilder would beat AJ. However we'll never know as heavyweight boxers love to duck each other.
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About 5 of the top 10 would probably beat Wilder. His chin is worse than AJ's. He was rocked by Molina and Breazeale who AJ toyed with, floored by Sconiers and rescued by a long count earlier in his career(if that was AJ...). Rescued by a dodgy doctor check against Ortiz, who wasn't even a legit top 10 opponent(beat nobody) at the time but would have handed him his first defeat if he had the stamina. Fury's been selling that BS about Wilder because outside of the Wlad fight that's all he has on his resume.
 
Credit to Usyk but some people don't know how to score boxing rounds IMO. AJ even while not at his best overall, won at least 5 rounds and there were swing rounds you could argue about(so much for the judges being dodgy). The biggest mistake he made was letting Usyk bank those early rounds because the last two rounds you'd have expect Usyk to be fresher and that's how it went.
 
Metalartin said:
Credit to Usyk but some people don't know how to score boxing rounds IMO. AJ even while not at his best, won at least 5 rounds and there were swing rounds you could argue about(so much for the judges being dodgy). The biggest mistake he made was letting Usyk bank those early rounds because the last two rounds you'd have expect Usyk to be fresher and that's how it went.
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Haha, “AJ won at least 5 rounds” - I’ll have some of what you’re smoking, it sounds awesome.
 
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