Pretty sure aj has a better resume than fury and definitely better than wilder. Was holyfield a blown up cruiserweight or legit heavyweight champ?a blown up cruiser with average KO record would scare Fury but he’s fighting the biggest hitting heavyweight for a 3rd time in a couple of weeks ?
you sure about that ?
Pretty sure aj has a better resume than fury and definitely better than wilder. Was holyfield a blown up cruiserweight or legit heavyweight champ?
I reckon usyk is well on his way to being recognised as an all time great, cruiserweight unified champ + heavy weight multi champ.
Don't get me wrong, I think fury beats aj, especially after tonight, and is too much bigger and skilled for usyk but don't kid yourself that wilder is anything special, to quote fury, he is a, a dosser
Go on then who has he beaten? He beat a finished Klitschko, Joseph Parker on points who is average at best. He lost to Andy Ruiz Jr & then couldn't knock him out in the rematch even though he'd been on a binge in Vegas. Tell me what it is that makes Joshua such a great fighter. He'd lose to Dillian Whyte & struggle against Chisora as he has more heart than Joshua. He is an average fighter accept it!
Pretty sure aj has a better resume than fury and definitely better than wilder. Was holyfield a blown up cruiserweight or legit heavyweight champ?
I reckon usyk is well on his way to being recognised as an all time great, cruiserweight unified champ + heavy weight multi champ.
Don't get me wrong, I think fury beats aj, especially after tonight, and is too much bigger and skilled for usyk but don't kid yourself that wilder is anything special, to quote fury, he is a, a dosser
If you're just going to say everyone he's beaten is crap or finished or old then Fury has beaten nobody at all and Wilder isn't even a boxer.Go on then who has he beaten? He beat a finished Klitschko, Joseph Parker on points who is average at best. He lost to Andy Ruiz Jr & then couldn't knock him out in the rematch even though he'd been on a binge in Vegas. Tell me what it is that makes Joshua such a great fighter. He'd lose to Dillian Whyte & struggle against Chisora as he has more heart than Joshua. He is an average fighter accept it!
Who has Wilder ever beat in the top 10? Ortiz? Why was he ever in the top 10? He's beat nobody. Wilder is your average fighter and protected hypejob. He'd get smashed by a lot of the top 10, he's not a good boxer and his chin is vastly overrated. Fury said it himself. Fury was a cherry pick gone wrong. He though he was washed up and just wanted the name on his shite resume.has AJ ever beaten anyone who was ranked as high a Wilder when they fought ?
Fair enough on Fury due to his significant size and skill set, but I can't think of many others who would risk a belt or chance of a belt fight against anyone who might beat them.i was only commenting on you saying AJs peers wouldn’t date have fought Usyk
I don’t agree
We can both play your game. Who at HW has a better resume than AJ?
He’s beat both Klitscho and Wilder when both were favoured to beat himWho has Wilder ever beat in the top 10? Ortiz? Why was he ever in the top 10? He's beat nobody. Wilder is your average fighter and protected hypejob. He'd get smashed by a lot of the top 10, he's not a good boxer and his chin is vastly overrated. Fury said it himself. Fury was a cherry pick gone wrong. He though he was washed up and just wanted the name on his shite resume.
Wilder was only picked to beat Fury because Fury was out of shape. The whole reason that fight happened. Wlad was picked to beat AJ too and there's not a name on Fury's resume that AJ wouldn't beat either. You don't get to where AJ got to without having something special at the speed he did it(faster than Fury and he boxed since 10 years old).He’s beat both Klitscho and Wilder when both were favoured to beat him
I don’t think there’s a single name on AJs record fury wouldn’t also beat
If you're just going to say everyone he's beaten is crap or finished or old then Fury has beaten nobody at all and Wilder isn't even a boxer.
How was Wlad hyped up for Fury and then deemed finished 18 months later after Fury, despite being in better condition than he was for Fury? He had 3 training camps in that time because Fury didn't fancy it, the same gameplan wasn't working twice.
Parker wasn't considered average until AJ beat him. Fury said he'd put money on him schooling AJ. In fact most the obsessed AJ haters back peddled like crazy after that fight. Just like they did after the Whyte fight and the Charles Martin fight. Fury has bet against him so many times and exposed for the bullshitter he is but someone people have selective amnesia with the things he says.
We can both play your game. Who at HW has a better resume than
Klitschko didn't lay a glove on Fury. Fury schooled him as he would have done in a rematch. I'm not a big boxing expert but my eyes tell me Fury is a far better fighter.If you're just going to say everyone he's beaten is crap or finished or old then Fury has beaten nobody at all and Wilder isn't even a boxer.
How was Wlad hyped up for Fury and then deemed finished 18 months later after Fury, despite being in better condition than he was for Fury? He had 3 training camps in that time because Fury didn't fancy it, the same game plan wasn't working twice. Wlad was not some undefeated fighter who didn't know how to come back from loss. He knocks Fury out in the rematch IMO(53KOs for a reason) and that's why Fury became unhinged(faked an ankle injury the first time he pulled out), then the steroids case came to head and he tried to cover it up with a cocoaine use and mental health story and left boxing.
Parker wasn't considered average until AJ beat him. Fury said he'd put money on him schooling AJ. In fact most the obsessed AJ haters back peddled like crazy after that fight. Just like they did after the Whyte fight and the Charles Martin fight. Fury has bet against him so many times and exposed for the bullshitter he is but someone people have selective amnesia with the things he says.
We can both play your game. Who at HW has a better resume than AJ?
Wilder was only picked to beat Fury because Fury was out of shape. The whole reason that fight happened. Wlad was picked to beat AJ too and there's not a name on Fury's resume that AJ wouldn't beat either. You're bias against AJ is so evident in your double standards and frankly bullshit about him being "average". You don't get to where AJ got to without having something special at the fast rate he did it(faster than Fury and he boxed since 10 years old).
Scores of people(Fury included) had Wlad winning that fight easy before the fight. Many neutrals were picking Wlad with the justification of "Too soon for him" and you couldn't argue with it too much beforehand, it was a risk.AJ was bookies favourite v Wlad, AJ looks rocky after getting clipped on many occasions so not so sure you can say with much authority he beats wilder
I think it’s just AJ isn’t a fighter at his core, I’m pretty sure you’re a big AJ fan but he basically gave up tonight rather than take his lumps trying to get the win however he could leaving it all on the line
did he give absolutely everything to try and win that tonight ? I don’t think so and that’s because he’s not got a fighters heart
A beautiful night for boxing. I could watch that fight a million times and never be bored by it. His judgement of distance is uncanny like he has a radar in his head, his footwork, his upper body movement, the way he switches his straight left to a left hook almost mid shot, his variety, just his ring generalship overall are things of beauty to a purist. Man I could eulogise about him all night. The only tiny tiny criticism would be that he never timed his right hook properly as the final shot of a combo but maybe that was due to AJ sitting on the back foot and not committing to his shots.
Fairplay to AJ though he was in a deep fog of confusion as early as the 3rd or 4th but he kept on looking for him. But not only did Usyk outclass him - he took his soul in the 12th - I was screaming at the telly for Usyk to dance for the last round just to stay out of trouble but he went for him. I don’t think Josh will ever be the same after that.
Yep, wilder is a joke, one of the worst champs in history, avoiding the #1 ranked contender for over 1k days, embarrassing, that being whyte, who is a very limited but tough MF whom is also respected because he is willing to take on anybody.Wilder was only picked to beat Fury because Fury was out of shape. The whole reason that fight happened. Wlad was picked to beat AJ too and there's not a name on Fury's resume that AJ wouldn't beat either. You're bias against AJ is so evident in your double standards and frankly bullshit about him being "average". You don't get to where AJ got to without having something special at the fast rate he did it(faster than Fury and he boxed since 10 years old).
Johnson is responsible for a lot of things, but he didn’t get beaten tonight.Johnson got all that he deserved tonight.
Usyk enters the ring, totally focussed, not fazed by the crowd, concentrating on the job in hand.
Johnson.... waves to everyone, looks up and smiles at the crowd, shakes hands with the crowd... absolutely shocking. I just could not believe what I was watching he should have been totally zoned out from the crowd, there's enough time after you've won to get with the crowd, I dont think I've ever witnessed anything like that in such circumstances ever.
I'm pretty sure you're just an AJ hater with a casual interest in the sport.
Johnson is responsible for a lot of things, but he didn’t get beaten tonight.