The Boxing thread

Agree . He is in my eyes he greatest ever .
He is phenomenal. A truly wonderful fighter.
Greatest ever heavyweight? That's a bold claim: Ali, Mike Tyson, Lennox, Joe Louis, Larry Holmes, Marciano, Jack Johnson, Sam Langford...the list of greats is plentiful. Would he beat a peak Tyson, Ali, Holmes, or Lewis?
 
He is phenomenal. A truly wonderful fighter.
Greatest ever heavyweight? That's a bold claim: Ali, Mike Tyson, Lennox, Joe Louis, Larry Holmes, Marciano, Jack Johnson, Sam Langford...the list of greats is plentiful. Would he beat a peak Tyson, Ali, Holmes, or Lewis?
It’s a tough one but I do belive he is that good . He would be a puzzle to everyone from technical fighters like Ali and Lewis to animals like Tyson and Dempsey . Hope he retires now unbeaten .
 
It’s a tough one but I do belive he is that good . He would be a puzzle to everyone from technical fighters like Ali and Lewis to animals like Tyson and Dempsey . Hope he retires now unbeaten .
These debates are always impossible but you are right, he deserves to be mentioned in the pantheon of the greats. I would rate him above Holyfield who was the last great cruiserweight to heavyweight. Could he beat a Lennox, Ali or the other greats, maybe or maybe not. Even if he didn't beat them he is a nightmare fight for any opponent.

The thing I find interesting was his tactics yesterday, he is normally content to outbox his opponents and outlast them. He went headhunting last night an actually took some heavy shots to land his, when he first moved up to cruiserweight I would never imagined him fighting like that. Especially against a heavy handed hitter like Dubois.
 
These debates are always impossible but you are right, he deserves to be mentioned in the pantheon of the greats. I would rate him above Holyfield who was the last great cruiserweight to heavyweight. Could he beat a Lennox, Ali or the other greats, maybe or maybe not. Even if he didn't beat them he is a nightmare fight for any opponent.

The thing I find interesting was his tactics yesterday, he is normally content to outbox his opponents and outlast them. He went headhunting last night an actually took some heavy shots to land his, when he first moved up to cruiserweight I would never imagined him fighting like that. Especially against a heavy handed hitter like Dubois.

Agree, Usyk normally bides his time in 'figuring' out his opponent & outboxing them over the duration of the fight. Although you could argue, he's already spent time doing this in the first fight & calculated Dubois's strengths & fighting style.

I also reckon perhaps his camp were thinking about stamina & wanted Usyk to wrap this up quickly, rather than giving the younger man a chance the longer the fight went on.

In saying all of this, Usyk was picking off Dubois at will & it was impressive to see. In a way, it was probably best the fight ended in the fifth, as the longer it went on, the worse it was getting for Dubois.
 
Agree, Usyk normally bides his time in 'figuring' out his opponent & outboxing them over the duration of the fight. Although you could argue, he's already spent time doing this in the first fight & calculated Dubois's strengths & fighting style.

I also reckon perhaps his camp were thinking about stamina & wanted Usyk to wrap this up quickly, rather than giving the younger man a chance the longer the fight went on.

In saying all of this, Usyk was picking off Dubois at will & it was impressive to see. In a way, it was probably best the fight ended in the fifth, as the longer it went on, the worse it was getting for Dubois.
This first paragraph sums it up. Usyk downloaded all the data he needed to in the first fight. And Dubois has had some good results of late without showing much of a different level to his game since then. In effect he was the same fighter that walked in first round against Usyk but with a bit more confidence because of recent form. All it took was a couple of really sharp jabs in the first minute to remind Dubois that he was in with a guy that's already schooled and stopped him once and he was reluctant to commit thereafter. Made it a lot easier for Usyk to pick him off at will.

Usyk was brilliant from the first bell. Dubois looked out of his depth.
 
These debates are always impossible but you are right, he deserves to be mentioned in the pantheon of the greats. I would rate him above Holyfield who was the last great cruiserweight to heavyweight. Could he beat a Lennox, Ali or the other greats, maybe or maybe not. Even if he didn't beat them he is a nightmare fight for any opponent.

The thing I find interesting was his tactics yesterday, he is normally content to outbox his opponents and outlast them. He went headhunting last night an actually took some heavy shots to land his, when he first moved up to cruiserweight I would never imagined him fighting like that. Especially against a heavy handed hitter like Dubois.
I think the idiot got under his skin about the low blow and he wanted to put him to sleep . Tbh your right I hate it’s impossible to say who’s the greatest but he’s up there and he’s my favourite.
 
This first paragraph sums it up. Usyk downloaded all the data he needed to in the first fight. And Dubois has had some good results of late without showing much of a different level to his game since then. In effect he was the same fighter that walked in first round against Usyk but with a bit more confidence because of recent form. All it took was a couple of really sharp jabs in the first minute to remind Dubois that he was in with a guy that's already schooled and stopped him once and he was reluctant to commit thereafter. Made it a lot easier for Usyk to pick him off at will.

Usyk was brilliant from the first bell. Dubois looked out of his depth.
Dubois thought he could box like he did against Joshua, but Usyk is harder to hit and he left himself open to the counter. I'm not sure there is much more to it. Dubois had Usyk in the corner and was trying to unleash a combo when he got knocked down the first time. That really ended it and he just had a few seconds of being a sitting duck swinging after that, and did zero to protect himself against the 2nd knock down.
 

Don't have an account? Register now and see fewer ads!

SIGN UP
Back
Top