Paul Lake's Left Knee
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pips said:
Really good that - cant wait for this fight, Haye does seem quieter than usual but he is under Vlad's skin thats for sure
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Really good that - cant wait for this fight, Haye does seem quieter than usual but he is under Vlad's skin thats for sure
Dirty Harry
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I had Haye down to win inside 6 (if he gets his lateral movement right), I still think that, but looking at that vid I'd say Klit has the edge in the mind games (I'm not an expert although I've done body language, interview skills/techniques etc it was a long time ago but I like to think I'm pretty good at reading people amd looking at that Haye looks a bit worried) we shall see.
leighton
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Dirty Harry said:I had Haye down to win inside 6 (if he gets his lateral movement right), I still think that, but looking at that vid I'd say Klit has the edge in the mind games (I'm not an expert although I've done body language, interview skills/techniques etc it was a long time ago but I like to think I'm pretty good at reading people amd looking at that Haye looks a bit worried) we shall see.
Mind games Wlad is still going on about the t-shirt Haye used of the 2 brothers so I think Haye has the upper hand on this. He keeps going on about shake the champs hand and all that bollocks. This is a fully focused David Haye with maybe 1 of the best tatical trainers in his corner in Adam Booth he will set a game plan and work at it and will get the win. I think if Haye lands a bomb on Wlads chin it could be a early night. Haye needs the KO to get the win in Germany and for heavyweight boxing its what Boxing needs is a Haye win.
Paul Lake's Left Knee
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pips said:I would normally go for the brit to win but in this one im not bothered
cos ive never really took to david haye theres something about him
thats not likeable maybe hes just a bit to arrogant for me ?
He is a Millwall fan - could that be it???<br /><br />-- Wed Jun 22, 2011 11:27 am --<br /><br />
leighton said:Dirty Harry said:I had Haye down to win inside 6 (if he gets his lateral movement right), I still think that, but looking at that vid I'd say Klit has the edge in the mind games (I'm not an expert although I've done body language, interview skills/techniques etc it was a long time ago but I like to think I'm pretty good at reading people amd looking at that Haye looks a bit worried) we shall see.
Mind games Wlad is still going on about the t-shirt Haye used of the 2 brothers so I think Haye has the upper hand on this. He keeps going on about shake the champs hand and all that bollocks. This is a fully focused David Haye with maybe 1 of the best tatical trainers in his corner in Adam Booth he will set a game plan and work at it and will get the win. I think if Haye lands a bomb on Wlads chin it could be a early night. Haye needs the KO to get the win in Germany and for heavyweight boxing its what Boxing needs is a Haye win.
I agree fully, boxing, certainly the heavyweights, needs Haye, although his claims he will walk away in October arent what it needs, if Haye were to unify the titles, why walk away, when he can fight in Vegas on the strip a couple of times and get the yanks talking about heavyweights again - and pocket a couple of nice paydays...
Dirty Harry
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leighton said:Dirty Harry said:I had Haye down to win inside 6 (if he gets his lateral movement right), I still think that, but looking at that vid I'd say Klit has the edge in the mind games (I'm not an expert although I've done body language, interview skills/techniques etc it was a long time ago but I like to think I'm pretty good at reading people amd looking at that Haye looks a bit worried) we shall see.
Mind games Wlad is still going on about the t-shirt Haye used of the 2 brothers so I think Haye has the upper hand on this. He keeps going on about shake the champs hand and all that bollocks. This is a fully focused David Haye with maybe 1 of the best tatical trainers in his corner in Adam Booth he will set a game plan and work at it and will get the win. I think if Haye lands a bomb on Wlads chin it could be a early night. Haye needs the KO to get the win in Germany and for heavyweight boxing its what Boxing needs is a Haye win.
Yes mate, what I have said is in relation to the 'non verbal communication' aspect rather than just 'mind games' , should have been more clear.
leighton
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pips said:If haye wins then it will be the other brother & if he wins that it will be
america for really big bucks his ego & age says he wont be retiring any
time soon .
I dont think he will fight on to be fair. He has made enough money so far and he is more than happy to call it a day. I respect him for bowing out if he does go ahead with it. He has his promotions company to keep him going and the money he is making will keep him going for the rest of his life. Also he will get x amount of money from the American tv as well. The thing is there isnt any real good heavyweights coming up. If there was an up and coming American heavyweight he would stick around but sadly there isnt.
Im thinking that if he sorts the 2 brothers out then why not carry on
& make sheds more cash against opponents that are nowhere near as
talented. I agree that america doesnt have any decent heavyweights
anymore so why not take the easy money taking into account that
one punch from a big fella can change everything so would haye be
willing to take that risk & ruin his reputation ( only time will tell )
bring it on i cant wait .
& make sheds more cash against opponents that are nowhere near as
talented. I agree that america doesnt have any decent heavyweights
anymore so why not take the easy money taking into account that
one punch from a big fella can change everything so would haye be
willing to take that risk & ruin his reputation ( only time will tell )
bring it on i cant wait .
Dirty Harry
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Personally I can see him staying on to fight Vitali if he beats Wlad, I think whilst that question mark is still there his ego wouldn't let it go, which isn't a criticism, just more that Haye wouldn't want to leave any doubt.
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leighton said:pips said:If haye wins then it will be the other brother & if he wins that it will be
america for really big bucks his ego & age says he wont be retiring any
time soon .
I dont think he will fight on to be fair. He has made enough money so far and he is more than happy to call it a day. I respect him for bowing out if he does go ahead with it. He has his promotions company to keep him going and the money he is making will keep him going for the rest of his life. Also he will get x amount of money from the American tv as well. The thing is there isnt any real good heavyweights coming up. If there was an up and coming American heavyweight he would stick around but sadly there isnt.
Am much as you might think that his promotions company will keep him going, think again, it will take a hell of a lot of money and a decent stable to start making his promotional company anywhere near profitable to a decent standard.
It's been said that Hatton's Promtotional company loses money at present (and it's been going for a few years now), this being said by rival promoters but ones that respect him, not the likes of Frank Warren. This rival promoter actually said that Hatton probably pays his fighters to much but that he is also great at looking after his stable too.
LongsightM13
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Anyone from on here going to John Murray v Kevin Mitchell in London next month? A few of us going down, should be a decent bout
leighton
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Promotions companies like Hayes and Hattons are linked with Golden Boy and I can see both Hatton and Haye teaming together to do a UK combination of Golden Boy promotions. Haye can sell anything he puts his mind to.
Dirty Harry
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LongsightM13 said:Anyone from on here going to John Murray v Kevin Mitchell in London next month? A few of us going down, should be a decent bout
Unfortunately not me mate but really looking forward to it, should be a cracking fight and John will have his mind focussed I'm sure.
conormcfc
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Wlad will dominate Haye, said it from day 1. This is like the Hatton/Mayweather build up all over again.
The guy is all hype and a punchers chance is all he has. 99 times out of 100 Wlad wins this fight.
The guy is all hype and a punchers chance is all he has. 99 times out of 100 Wlad wins this fight.
leighton
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conormcfc said:Wlad will dominate Haye, said it from day 1. This is like the Hatton/Mayweather build up all over again.
The guy is all hype and a punchers chance is all he has. 99 times out of 100 Wlad wins this fight.
It wont be a great fight if I am honest. Wlad is too defensive because of his chin. People say that Haye is chinny well so is Wlad. Wlad knows all about Hayes power and this is what will make him stick to his put his jab there in Hayes face as much as he can. Hayes movement will be key. Wlad is used to fighting bigger men whos movement isnt great. Haye will be like him fighting a light heavyweight movement and speed could well be Wlads downfall.
conormcfc
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If Haye leaves his left hand low as usual then Wlad will tee off on him at will any time he gets close. Wlad has a better chance of taking Haye's best shots than the other way round imo. I have Wlad winning by KO in the mid rounds.leighton said:conormcfc said:Wlad will dominate Haye, said it from day 1. This is like the Hatton/Mayweather build up all over again.
The guy is all hype and a punchers chance is all he has. 99 times out of 100 Wlad wins this fight.
It wont be a great fight if I am honest. Wlad is too defensive because of his chin. People say that Haye is chinny well so is Wlad. Wlad knows all about Hayes power and this is what will make him stick to his put his jab there in Hayes face as much as he can. Hayes movement will be key. Wlad is used to fighting bigger men whos movement isnt great. Haye will be like him fighting a light heavyweight movement and speed could well be Wlads downfall.
ono
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Wlad should win.
Haye leaves himself open to the jab far too often. Klitschko has a great jab and as soon as he starts following it up with a right cross, Haye will be in bother.
If Haye can get him before Wlad gets into his stride, he could catch him. But in all probability, Haye will be as gun-shy as he was against Valuev, and that will play into Wlad's hands. I'm going to say Wlad, but possibly by UD.
Haye leaves himself open to the jab far too often. Klitschko has a great jab and as soon as he starts following it up with a right cross, Haye will be in bother.
If Haye can get him before Wlad gets into his stride, he could catch him. But in all probability, Haye will be as gun-shy as he was against Valuev, and that will play into Wlad's hands. I'm going to say Wlad, but possibly by UD.
leighton
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I will stick my neck out here and go for Haye. People slating Haye as he looked negative against Valuez the size of Valuez he had to be on his bike more and pick the shots you dont want a lump like him holding you. He has been avoided by both Klitschko brothers which is crazy. Haye needs a KO to win he isnt going to win in Germany on points. I would think Haye will work off the game plan from Booth and I think we might have another case of Haye v Enzo. As soon as Haye lands on Klitschko he wont want any of Haye. I would go for Haye a KO win in the middle rounds.