The Boxing thread

Well that was a shock of sorts. Didnt think Murray would get KO'd like that. I had Murray ahead on my cards by 2 rounds for his work rate in the early rounds.

Mitchell had the more eye catching shots but at the end of the 7th round there was no way Murray was going to survive. I think Murray and his team need to think long and hard about his style. No point pressure and pressure all the time it smoothers his shots a bit. When Murray used his jab it worked well I think he should use more of his boxing skills in future. It will be a long road back for Murray but he is still young and has Warren backing him so I will expect him back to a high level and maybe in the future a rematch with Mitchell again.
 
Mitchell's boxing ability was in a different league to Murray.
Murray's style of walking through two shots to land one can only take you so far
 
I know it wont be popular on here but Murray is a poor man's Ricky Hatton. He takes too many shots and tries to bully people, but Mitchell was in a different league tonight.
 
Georgian Maestro said:
Mitchell's boxing ability was in a different league to Murray.
Murray's style of walking through two shots to land one can only take you so far
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Good point. He would do well to watch Haye ducking and diving against Klitschko. As poor as Haye was, the way he can slip a punch is a joy to watch. Shame he's a ****.
 
Pubteam Lomas said:
I know it wont be popular on here but Murray is a poor man's Ricky Hatton. He takes too many shots and tries to bully people, but Mitchell was in a different league tonight.
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Might be true but John has always given value for money and has been a credit to Manchester. Perhaps this might be a blessing in disguise
and he will comeback stronger.
 
conormcfc said:
I fancy Murray's brother Joe to go further in the long run. Although he's a rag unfortunately.
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Im not too sure about Joe Murray that division has some good young fighters in the UK at the moment. A fight between Murray and Ryan Walsh would be a great fight with 2 young fighters. Sadly with Martin Lindsey , Stephen Smith and John Simpson at the same level its a nightmare also you never know maybe Rendall Munroe might end up in featerweight in the coming fights.

Also I would have to argee with Barry Mc about Frankie Gavin. His last 2 fights he hasnt looked good at all no power a bit sloppy. Too early for him to be fighting at Wealter weight he should be still fighting at Light Wealter Weight a great prospect with all the shots in the world Warren will make a mint out of him as he is Warrens best prospect in my view and in my view will win a World title in years to come.
 
glen quagmire said:
Shite. My brother in laws two good mates, both lost tonight!
Murray and watson!
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That Hatton card was live on youtube tonight. I didnt see it myself but they are re running it on youtube tomorrow night at 7pm on youtube Hattonspromtions station.

Sky have fucked up they could of got this on next weekend with the Scott Quigg fight meaning more boxing during the summer months instead its all over with. So just keep a eye on Hattons website for next Saturday nights fight as more than likely it may well end up being on youtube live like tonights 1. Skys boxing are on holidays.
 
Great fight between Murray and Mitchell and plenty of respect shown between the fighters. Murray was winning and doing well overall in the 1st 6 but fair play to Mitchell, he turned it around and deserved to win. It all seemed to change in a couple of rounds and Mitchell`s uppercuts eventually told as he wore Muzza down.
 
I put it in another thread, murray has been on the piss during his training camp. Mitchell had a great 12 weeks. Just shows you can't fuck about, you need to be 100%.
 
If that is true, being on the ale, then he has disrespected his fans and has gone right down in my estimation! Regarding the fight, i thought both boxers were impressive for 6 rnds, but mitchell had a game plan and it worked. Mitchell is the better boxer and i dont see the point of a rematch.
 
Joe gallaghers gonna have to change john murrays style cos he aint getting
nowhere with those tactics . Its ok when your fighting journeymen but now
hes stepped up against the likes of mitchell hes been found out badly .
John sees himself has the new ricky hatton but ricky had a lot more in his offence than john & he could punch with authority wheres murray isnt a big
puncher at all .
But its not the end of the world after suffering the first defeat of his career
john can come back a better fighter ? Oh while im at it bellew is an average
boxer who wont win the world title cos hes not good enough & im putting my
head on the block now when i say gavin wont win the world title either hes
a brilliant boxer with powder puff power i dont think thats enough to get him
to the very top .
 
pips said:
Joe gallaghers gonna have to change john murrays style cos he aint getting
nowhere with those tactics . Its ok when your fighting journeymen but now
hes stepped up against the likes of mitchell hes been found out badly .
John sees himself has the new ricky hatton but ricky had a lot more in his offence than john & he could punch with authority wheres murray isnt a big
puncher at all .
But its not the end of the world after suffering the first defeat of his career
john can come back a better fighter ? Oh while im at it bellew is an average
boxer who wont win the world title cos hes not good enough & im putting my
head on the block now when i say gavin wont win the world title either hes
a brilliant boxer with powder puff power i dont think thats enough to get him
to the very top .
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I argee with a lot of what you have to say Pips. The rumours coming off the back of both Murray and Gavin where not good. Murray on the piss before any fight is wrong all the top fighters and want to be top fighters live like a saint in the lead up to there fights.
It seems from Barry Mc that Frankie Gavin loves his partying and his diet is meant to be shit loves the good life too much no hunger. He is a light welter weight and should be cutting the weight down to box at that weight level. That was were his power came from and he had a number of KOs in that division so far. Warren and Farnell need to sit him down and tell him to sort it out or its not going to work for him and he wont get any big fights. Boxing skills is brilliant and if he wants to do it he will win a World title. At Light Welter Weight a lot are moving up to Welter Weight and whats left wouldnt be all that great by the time he fights for a World title.
 
I am qualified to post this before anyone asks.

John murray, was a fantastic amateur boxer. His movement and punch placement was excellent. He was also as fit as you can be, his boxing style has to be credited to JOE PENNINGTON, not joe gallagher.

Joe penn, always thought that john couldn't take a shot as well as he could have, and taught him how to slip them better. Joe gallagher on the other hand is gung-ho and thinks that leading with your chin, to get your own shots off is the answer. John is renowned as a warrior, something i never could get my head round, as i always thought him to be a boxer, not a fighter. Sticking to his amateur roots, i believe he would have definitley have a world title by now.

I've not spoken to john in a few years, but can honestly say he is a really nice lad, a massive blue and i'm sure will be back, better and stronger than before.
 
glen quagmire said:
I am qualified to post this before anyone asks.

John murray, was a fantastic amateur boxer. His movement and punch placement was excellent. He was also as fit as you can be, his boxing style has to be credited to JOE PENNINGTON, not joe gallagher.

Joe penn, always thought that john couldn't take a shot as well as he could have, and taught him how to slip them better. Joe gallagher on the other hand is gung-ho and thinks that leading with your chin, to get your own shots off is the answer. John is renowned as a warrior, something i never could get my head round, as i always thought him to be a boxer, not a fighter. Sticking to his amateur roots, i believe he would have definitley have a world title by now.

I've not spoken to john in a few years, but can honestly say he is a really nice lad, a massive blue and i'm sure will be back, better and stronger than before.
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Completely off pat and apologies for the digression, but just spotted your location. Show us yer muscles!!!
 
glen quagmire said:
I am qualified to post this before anyone asks.

John murray, was a fantastic amateur boxer. His movement and punch placement was excellent. He was also as fit as you can be, his boxing style has to be credited to JOE PENNINGTON, not joe gallagher.

Joe penn, always thought that john couldn't take a shot as well as he could have, and taught him how to slip them better. Joe gallagher on the other hand is gung-ho and thinks that leading with your chin, to get your own shots off is the answer. John is renowned as a warrior, something i never could get my head round, as i always thought him to be a boxer, not a fighter. Sticking to his amateur roots, i believe he would have definitley have a world title by now.

I've not spoken to john in a few years, but can honestly say he is a really nice lad, a massive blue and i'm sure will be back, better and stronger than before.
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To be honest Johns only what 25 or 26 he can come back a better fighter after this. Warren will rebuild him up but I think Gallagher got his tatics wrong on the night. John was smoothering his own work as normal when he used his jab in the fight it was working well for him so you could see he had good amateur skills. It seems with Gallagher his 2 main men Murray and Macklin in a way are happy to slug it out in the centre of the ring but Macklin isnt as much of a pressure fighter as Murray but has a good mix. If Murray gets the right mix of when to pressure and when to use his boxing skills he can come back strong. 1 come back fight then fight for the European title again might be Warrens plan for him. Or maybe Warren can do what he did for DeGaile and get him a European title fight after a defeat.
 
glen quagmire said:
I am qualified to post this before anyone asks.

John murray, was a fantastic amateur boxer. His movement and punch placement was excellent. He was also as fit as you can be, his boxing style has to be credited to JOE PENNINGTON, not joe gallagher.

Joe penn, always thought that john couldn't take a shot as well as he could have, and taught him how to slip them better. Joe gallagher on the other hand is gung-ho and thinks that leading with your chin, to get your own shots off is the answer. John is renowned as a warrior, something i never could get my head round, as i always thought him to be a boxer, not a fighter. Sticking to his amateur roots, i believe he would have definitley have a world title by now.

I've not spoken to john in a few years, but can honestly say he is a really nice lad, a massive blue and i'm sure will be back, better and stronger than before.
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Good to see Joe progressing well too although he's a rag he's a top lad
 
Yes. Young joe is a great prospect. Unfortunatley another lad who's great boxing style, will be sacrificed for his trainer's gung ho methods. Joe would be more suited to someone like brian hughes or the aforementioned joe pennington. Bob shannon, (belting guy) would also work for young joe, as long as his basics were left alone.
 
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