The Boxing thread

Gutted for Brook, had a feeling Devon was up to something, hope they still get it on! Brooks like a caged animal at the moment, I've never seen him in this shape even with three weeks to go. Wanted him to smash Alexander and become a genuine champ. I'm sure he wouldn't mind if Devon vacates though.
 
Bored of Mayweather and his cherry picking at this point, plenty of more exciting fighters who deserve more attention.
 
I can see why Alexander has gone for his big pay day with Money. I can also see why Money is fighting Alexander as well. Bradley has a fight with Provodnikov , Martinez has a fight with Martin Murray.
Saul Alvarez well his team wont go near Money until Money is on the way out or showing signs of that. I was hoping for that fight but sadly not by the looks of it.
Pacman no point 2 defeats on the trot just no point also could end up fight Marquez again by the looks of it if both continue to fight.
My Wildcard would of been Austin Trout who beat Cotto in his last fight but I just dont know if Money fancies moving up a weight division to fight or take the easier option and stay in his weight and fight Alexander.

I feel for Kell as I honestly see Kell having a great chance over Alexander. Saying that it might open up a big pay day for Kell and a all British fight with Amir Khan which I think Kell has enough about him to beat Amir which would put him up in the rankings for any big fights if he does it well.
 
Mayweather could be fighting Junior Witter and you'd still defend it leighton.

He's had 6 months to pick a fight, stop acting like he's being forced to fight Devon Alexander because there's no-one else available haha.

It's a joke fight and Floyd is rightly being criticized by his own fans for it.
 
conormcfc said:
Mayweather could be fighting Junior Witter and you'd still defend it leighton.

He's had 6 months to pick a fight, stop acting like he's being forced to fight Devon Alexander because there's no-one else available haha.

It's a joke fight and Floyd is rightly being criticized by his own fans for it.

Floyd will always have his haters no matter what. I am not defending his choice of fighters but I can see with the bigger names all fighting theres not a lot you can do about it. Why not moan about Mathinez fighting Martin Murray or Bradley for his fight?? Yet because its Money you will moan about him not fighting whoever it is.

Conor who would you want to see Money fight. The Pacman fight is gone. So who should he go for as a fight. Money is going to go down with greats that have laced them up no matter what you think he is technically 1 of the best I have ever seen.
 
leighton said:
conormcfc said:
Mayweather could be fighting Junior Witter and you'd still defend it leighton.

He's had 6 months to pick a fight, stop acting like he's being forced to fight Devon Alexander because there's no-one else available haha.

It's a joke fight and Floyd is rightly being criticized by his own fans for it.

Floyd will always have his haters no matter what. I am not defending his choice of fighters but I can see with the bigger names all fighting theres not a lot you can do about it. Why not moan about Mathinez fighting Martin Murray or Bradley for his fight?? Yet because its Money you will moan about him not fighting whoever it is.

Conor who would you want to see Money fight. The Pacman fight is gone. So who should he go for as a fight. Money is going to go down with greats that have laced them up no matter what you think he is technically 1 of the best I have ever seen.
Of course you're defending his choice of opponent haha. As for Floyd having his 'haters', as I've said, go to the Boxing forums and look at how his own fans are berating him.

Martinez would happily fight anyone from 154-160 and that includes Mayweather, as he's said in the past.

Bradley I couldn't really give a fuck about, can't get a decent fight at welterweight because he couldn't sell out a phonebox (neither can Alexander though, so maybe Floyd should fight the guy that actually won the fight between those 2). He'd jump at a Floyd fight.

Who would I rather see him fight than Devon Alexander? Let's see...

Martinez
Trout
Canelo
Guerrero
Bradley
Garcia
Matthyse
Cotto again

I'd rather not see him fight anyone aside from the first 3 and just go back into retirement, because they are all shit predictable fights. Still better fights than Alexander though. It even manages to be a horrible clash of styles.

There isn't a single justifiable reason for Floyd to fight him and to say that he's fighting Alexander because he's the only available opponent after having 6 months to choose someone is quite frankly, embarrassing.
 
The rumour was that he was lining up Canelo for September as it's another Mexican holiday i believe.

Not like Floyd to fight twice in 6 months though is it.

I see no point in a Trout or Alexander fight as there's no draw/star appeal in the opponent there. Bradley is marginally better but he doesn't have much of a fan base.

His other options i'd prefer to see are Canelo now, Garcia moving up although i don't really rate Garcia, Matthysse would perhaps be preferable at this point if not Canelo simply becuase he is a dangerous puncher and there's always that 1 punch fight changer potential.
 
theres only 1 fight id like to see mayweather have and thats canelo, he beats all the others easily so im not to fussed who he fights out of the rest in the run up to that one
 
Golden boy wont rush Canelo in with Money. I am guessing that might be Moneys last fight. A changing of the guard type of fight. They could well have anyone fighting Money and it will be the same result as he is just a level above most fighters.

As for a Marthinez fight I just think for Money it might well be a step too far for him to go up and do well and troble Marthinez. It would be a great fight to see but it would be more of Money trying to use his boxing to win as he wouldnt have the power to stop Mathinez at that weight level. I wouldnt mind seeing Marthinez v Chavez Jnr again.
 
leighton said:
Golden boy wont rush Canelo in with Money. I am guessing that might be Moneys last fight. A changing of the guard type of fight. They could well have anyone fighting Money and it will be the same result as he is just a level above most fighters.

As for a Marthinez fight I just think for Money it might well be a step too far for him to go up and do well and troble Marthinez. It would be a great fight to see but it would be more of Money trying to use his boxing to win as he wouldnt have the power to stop Mathinez at that weight level. I wouldnt mind seeing Marthinez v Chavez Jnr again.
Gonna be a difficult fight therefore don't take it, you said it, that's the Mayweather way alright. Imagine if Sugar Ray Leonard had that attitude. Suppose that's what separates the good from the great.
 
conormcfc said:
leighton said:
Golden boy wont rush Canelo in with Money. I am guessing that might be Moneys last fight. A changing of the guard type of fight. They could well have anyone fighting Money and it will be the same result as he is just a level above most fighters.

As for a Marthinez fight I just think for Money it might well be a step too far for him to go up and do well and troble Marthinez. It would be a great fight to see but it would be more of Money trying to use his boxing to win as he wouldnt have the power to stop Mathinez at that weight level. I wouldnt mind seeing Marthinez v Chavez Jnr again.
Gonna be a difficult fight therefore don't take it, you said it, that's the Mayweather way alright. Imagine if Sugar Ray Leonard had that attitude. Suppose that's what separates the good from the great.

Well he cant take that fight because Marthinez is already fighting. What can he do.
Also a lot of people are jumping the gun I heard that Brook v Alexander will be made for the 27th of April and it is on a good card. Going by Eddie Hearns twitter he was saying thats the most likely date for the fight to be made. On the same bill as Danny Garcia v Zab Judah and Peter Quillin v Fernado Guererro.
Money may well be using Alexander in a way to do a cheap deal with another fighter saying he is close to terms with Alexander may well have been a smokescreen for another fight and a way of pushing the other fight on.
 
Feel like a fucking gooseberry in this fucking thread, some sparring going on. Can see why UFC is becoming more prominent, no one wants a fight. Top level boxers at the moment are like shit heads hope the bubble bursts!
 
missing person said:
Feel like a fucking gooseberry in this fucking thread, some sparring going on. Can see why UFC is becoming more prominent, no one wants a fight. Top level boxers at the moment are like shit heads hope the bubble bursts!

for me anyone who was already a boxing fan will never start to watch UFC instead, just my opinion but i can't see a UFC fight where from what i have seen the most part is spent rolling on the floor ever coming close to a Barrera v Morales, Gatti v Ward or Castillo v Corrales, this isnt a pop at UFC as its clearly very popular
 
bluemc1 said:
missing person said:
Feel like a fucking gooseberry in this fucking thread, some sparring going on. Can see why UFC is becoming more prominent, no one wants a fight. Top level boxers at the moment are like shit heads hope the bubble bursts!

for me anyone who was already a boxing fan will never start to watch UFC instead, just my opinion but i can't see a UFC fight where from what i have seen the most part is spent rolling on the floor ever coming close to a Barrera v Morales, Gatti v Ward or Castillo v Corrales, this isnt a pop at UFC as its clearly very popular

For anyone who's a boxing fan correct.

However for new fans, the new heros might be UFC guys, but you are right can't beat a good tear up!
 
missing person said:
bluemc1 said:
missing person said:
Feel like a fucking gooseberry in this fucking thread, some sparring going on. Can see why UFC is becoming more prominent, no one wants a fight. Top level boxers at the moment are like shit heads hope the bubble bursts!

for me anyone who was already a boxing fan will never start to watch UFC instead, just my opinion but i can't see a UFC fight where from what i have seen the most part is spent rolling on the floor ever coming close to a Barrera v Morales, Gatti v Ward or Castillo v Corrales, this isnt a pop at UFC as its clearly very popular

For anyone who's a boxing fan correct.

However for new fans, the new heros might be UFC guys, but you are right can't beat a good tear up!

spot on mate glad you could see what i was saying
 
missing person said:
Looking forward to the Broner vs Rees fight, however wish it was Burns. Broner to win in round 5.

Broner looks a real cocky classy fighter. All the confidence in him. Ricky Burns will never ever fight Broner while he is with Frank Warren. To be honest the winner of the Burns fight should fight Broner to see who is the best lightweight around but Warren wont let Burns in with Broner at the time being. Too dangerous of a fight for Warren to put Burns in with.

As for the UFC I watch it. I take each sport for what it is. Some fighters you just love to watch in both sports and I would rarely miss there fights be it GSP , Anderson Silva and Bones Jones fights are all must see fights for me.
 
leighton said:
conormcfc said:
Gonna be a difficult fight therefore don't take it, you said it, that's the Mayweather way alright. Imagine if Sugar Ray Leonard had that attitude. Suppose that's what separates the good from the great.

Well he cant take that fight because Marthinez is already fighting. What can he do.
Also a lot of people are jumping the gun I heard that Brook v Alexander will be made for the 27th of April and it is on a good card. Going by Eddie Hearns twitter he was saying thats the most likely date for the fight to be made. On the same bill as Danny Garcia v Zab Judah and Peter Quillin v Fernado Guererro.
Money may well be using Alexander in a way to do a cheap deal with another fighter saying he is close to terms with Alexander may well have been a smokescreen for another fight and a way of pushing the other fight on.
How can you say you're not defending Mayweather then come out with the same nonsensical excuse 3 times?

I've said this 3 times now, Floyd has had 6/7 months to find an opponent. Martinez hasn't been signed to fight someone for the last 6/7 months (not until about December). Mayweather isn't on a tight schedule, he fights once a year. He can fight who he wants.

Trout and Canelo are the 2 next most dangerous challenges, both have no fights lined up, both would love a Mayweather fight.

He fights once a year, anyone other than those 3 (unless the Pacquiao fight materializes) at this stage of his career is unacceptable.
 
The only reason we look back on Hearns & Hagler & Duran & Leonard with such enduring respect and affection is because they put it on the line in mega fights against each other and showed their heart in the ring. We've never seen Floyd go to the well because he avoids fighters who might push him there so we don't know if he has the heart of a truly great champion. Nobody can tell me that Mayweather is more technically accomplished than Sugar Ray or Tommy Hearns and nobody can tell me that Floyd ever came near taking a fight he could realistically lose. He gives boxing a bad name, he gives black men a bad name.

For what it's worth I reckon Canelo and Trout would trouble him but Martinez wouldn't get near him
 

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