The Boxing thread

ono said:
Yeah he's swimming against the tide against Canelo. I'd be surprised if he hears the final bell, but so long as he gives a decent account of himself, he can still have the Brook fight. Another fight where his chin gets tested. It's hard to confidently back him against any solid hitting top class fighter.
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Trying to think of positives but he's in for a tough fight. Fair play for having a go, like you said, just hope he gives a good account of himself and dosnt get smashed early.
 
Armaan said:
You know that belt is really Furys, everyone knows that. The ibf is the biggest joke organisation anyway. Fury is a millions levels above Whyte so understandably that fight will never happen. If fury beats Wladimir again will you give him credit?
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I was thinking more the wbc belt?

Yes will give him some credit but would like to see him fight someone younger and abit more in there prime.
 
Zin 'messiah' Zimmer said:
Carl was nails mate, he came through with (master) Ronnie green (who's having a film made about him), both Muay Thai backgrounds... Yeah, Jonny Nelson is ignored an awful lot, unfortunately the glamour of the heavyweight division, coupled with the money, draws in many a cruiserweight!
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Cruiser is a great division, very overlooked as you say. This was my fight of the year last year, Marco Huck going for his 15th defence of his title to beat Johnny Nelsons record.

 
Was at the first Thompson v Eubank fight on Naz bill and it stole the show, also remember going mental watching him come from behind to KO a bloke called Sebastian Rothman I think
What a heart he had

Did someone say it's sad what's happened to him ? What's happened ?
 
Paul Lake's Left Knee said:
Haye's first loss was to the cat, he gassed completely after trying to knock the cat out, was ahead on all three cards but the tank was empty, he wasnt badly knocked out though so I wouldnt say that made him gun shy at all.
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Thompson was a heavy, if not hard puncher, and Haye was about half his age!...so he has always appeared a little wary of taking a shot since, but that's only my op...
 
manctheknife said:
Where did I say they had fought again?
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Struggling, aren't we?? Have a gander at your original post....

You can't of watched Haye in his career if you believe for one second he was shot shy... He'd ruck with the best of them and he did on numerous occasions....

taking on Carl at that stage, was a no brainer, the mistake from booth et al, was Haye was blowing a gasket after 2 rounds, it was a terrible gameplan as it wouldn't of mattered if Carl was 55 on the day, his chin always was, always will be granite... Haye learnt a valuable lesson and it benefited him for the rest of his career.... Conditioning!!!!
 
Still don't see it...like I don't see or recall Haye rucking with the best of them....he ran with the best of them when his big fight came, and then got dodgy injuries that postponed fights ( including 2 with Fury?) with the best of them...Fight historians generally hold that a fighters chin is the first thing to go....not the last.
For the record, and as prev stated, I think Haye could be a helluva fighter, but actually he isn't?...could have taken down Klitch as I thought and wagered at the time, but didn't...so why is that? if it wasn't his conditioning and skills...must be his cojones...only thing left.
 
manctheknife said:
Still don't see it...like I don't see or recall Haye rucking with the best of them....he ran with the best of them when his big fight came, and then got dodgy injuries that postponed fights ( including 2 with Fury?) with the best of them...Fight historians generally hold that a fighters chin is the first thing to go....not the last.
For the record, and as prev stated, I think Haye could be a helluva fighter, but actually he isn't?...could have taken down Klitch as I thought and wagered at the time, but didn't...so why is that? if it wasn't his conditioning and skills...must be his cojones...only thing left.
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Ffs, because as alluded to by the majority on here, he was a natural cruiserweight and one of the best the division has seen... You don't recall Haye 'rucking with the best of them'? You didn't watch how he won the title v mormeck, no?

Fight historians?? Are you taking the piss?? Your understanding of conditioning and punch resistance, coupled with the 'chin' comment are ridiculous.... It's the legs, lack of movement that gets them tagged with age, nothing to do with taking a punch!!!
 
I will always remember Hayes fights in Cruiserweight what a top fighter and fights they were. The Mormeck fight was great Haye was down in the 4th round got up and KO'd Mormeck in France in the 7th round he was so powerful. Then his next fight with Enzo Mc 2 back to back big title fights Haye destroyed him inside 2 rounds both fighters at the time were KOing people out for fun so to say that Haye has no chin is laughable. Also to go up and take any heavyweights shots tells you all about Hayes chin he has yet to hit the canvas as a heavyweight.
 
exposed myself in my own right?...Que?
We disagree on Hayes attributes that's all...if he stands and fights against the big heavies I will concede to your greater knowledge.
You being the 'messiah' and all...
 
manctheknife said:
exposed myself in my own right?...Que?
We disagree on Hayes attributes that's all...if he stands and fights against the big heavies I will concede to your greater knowledge.
You being the 'messiah' and all...
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manctheknife said:
.Fight historians generally hold that a fighters chin is the first thing to go....not the last.
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manctheknife said:
I don't see or recall Haye rucking with the best
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The big heavies??? Keep digging, this is fun now....
 
manctheknife said:
Why are you getting arsey with me, is my opinion not as credible as yours?...
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Arsey?? Listen your opinion is as valid as anyone's, it's a forum for debate, however your 'name drop' comment obviously means you're trying to be a smartarse, well that's fine, but don't be a soft lad when you're made to look a deuche...

We'll leave it at that...
 
manctheknife said:
Good. It's 'douche' by the way.
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It's also a 'comma' but who's picking.... Should we continue??

deuche
a person that is super douchey, like double the douchiness of a normal douchebag, hence the contraction of deuce and douche. The pronunciation of deuche is similar to douche, so no distinction can be made when merely heard. One might specify that they are calling someone a "eu" deche rather than an "ou" douche, but in doing so, this makes that person even more douchier as well. It just spirals into one douchier circle with no escape. In fact I should stop typing now.
"See that guy with the Affliction shirt, what a douche, oh he even has an affliction hat......DEUCHE"
 
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