The British Monarchy

[WNRH]

Mate..calm the fuck down :) I'm talking about what is morally right.

If you can't see that such ostentatious wealth is morally wrong when people like OAP's can't afford heating and a footballer has to go on crusade to get kids from poor families a free school meal then I shake my head.
People will be sleeping under bridges this winter in the freezing cold, some will die, many need mental health help but won't get it.
Yet it's ok for this family to have thousands of rooms, servants, endless clothes, posh cars, etc etc. (paid for by the state) at their disposal.
If you think that's ok then that is your prerogative.

I'm not jealous of the Royal family. I have no desire to be famous.

Regards your " you don't live here" comment, I live thousands of miles away but I have plenty of family in the UK who I am in touch with and before covid I visited regularly. I read English newspapers and watch stuff on BBC and ITV.

You're failing to answer the question again Bill.

If the monarchy ended tomorrow, what benefit would it have on the average British person?

As i don't know what Australia is like but here in Britain there will always be people sleeping under bridges, or not affording their winter bills or families going hungry.

Is it right? No. Can the Royal Family change it? No. So i do not get why you continually have this opinion that the Royals are bad people for having thousands of rooms going spare, especially when you are lauding a footballer on £200k a week for crusading. What sort of level of income is enough?

Is it right that you have all the apple products in your house yet someone less fortunate than you can't afford three meals a day? Is that Bill Walker's fault? or the Royal Familys?

 

[Longballutd]

Just seen another 2 second clip of Charles getting angry at his fountain pen and quite frankly I’m outraged- it’s time for him to step down

I can’t bear this bloody thing

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

There are different types of communism, I was asking what yours is. Do you want all men equal? Or just their finances? How would you distribute wealth so that wealthy people need not feel guilty for having a big house?

None of them, as far as I know.

I’d need to see their definitions to be sure.

 

[mexico1970]

especially when you are lauding a footballer on £200k a week for crusading

Wash your moth out with soap, how very dare you insinuate that Sir Marcus Findus of the shires is anything but a philanthropist.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

Wash your moth out with soap, how very dare you insinuate that Sir Marcus Findus of the shires is anything but a philanthropist.

Ugh. Another shite point.

 

[WNRH]

You're completely missing the point. It's a matter of principal.

Earlier this year I lost my Grandfather to dementia. He'd been fighting it for a number of years and, long story short, he had to spend the last two years of his life in a care home. He'd worked hard all his life, and had accumulated a very healthy amount in savings. The sickener? It was going to cost 80k for my grandfather to spend his remaining days in a cramped bedroom under the care of strangers he'd never met. We contributed and the fees were paid. But his savings were gone. Wiped out. Just like that. When he passed I remember feeling enraged. Bitter at life. How was it fair that his life had ended so unceremoniously? But then I reminded myself that life isn't always fair, it can be cruel, and sometimes we have to swallow the bitter pills.

So why the fuck should it be any different for the Royal Family? Why does our new head of state get to move into a sixty bedroom palace without paying a single penny in inheritance tax? Why does a man who, to anyone with half a brain cell, is harbouring a very dark past get to avoid any accountability and be sheltered in luxury? Why do we, the British people, have to fund a lavish lifestyle for a group of people who are, for all intents and purposes, complete strangers to us? Am I supposed to feel thankful and a sense of civic fulfilment when I see pictures of them holidaying in ski resorts year after year, on the back of our money? It's a horrid system. Utterly, utterly repugnant and it baffles me that so many are blind to this.

Capitalism as an economic system has its flaws, you could even call it ugly. But at the very least, it's their for everyone to exploit to their advantage; if they work for it. The socio/political system should be the same. From the executive, to the legislature, to the head of state. It should be a hierarchical system that everyone has an opportunity to climb. It shouldn't be handed to you because some make-believe higher power ordained that your blood was worthier than others a millennium ago.

I'm not missing the point at all. Bill wants the monarchy gone because they have thousands of rooms going spare and believes if it goes then Britain will be a better place.

You at least have added an actual reason in your last paragraph why the Monarchy should go and it's one that is hard to argue with in an ideal world. What about all the rich people's kids though? What's the difference? Is that not the same as being born into the Royal Family? You can't help where you were born. Is it fair that Messi's kids won't have to work a day in their life and go on skiing holidays when they are older?

The fact is though which is the point i am trying to make is that if the Monarchy was no more, sadly nothing would have changed with your Grandad's situation nor would it in Bill's eyes make Britain a better fairer place.

 

[bluethrunthru]

He also did Sandals in the bin for Gandhi…

Rumour has it he already has I'm Still Sanding for when Tommy Walsh passes

 

[Bill Walker]

You're failing to answer the question again Bill.

You answered my original question, with a question. (not an answer)
When I posted an hour ago about them having thousands of rooms and thousands of acres I asked how people found that acceptable morally.

I'm not an economist, I don't know how much of the money lavished on the RF could be used to help poverty in the UK. But I'm guessing quite a bit.

My whole point was the morals of the states upkeep of this extravagant family when people are living in poverty.

I'm not qualified to answer your question. So I can't answer.
At the same time you have not answered my question about it morally speaking.

 

[BlueHammer85]

I'm not an economist, I don't know how much of the money lavished on the RF could be used to help poverty in the UK. But I'm guessing quite a bit.

My whole point was the morals of the states upkeep of this extravagant family when people are living in poverty.

I'm not qualified to answer your question. So I can't answer.
At the same time you have not answered my question about it morally speaking.

You’re forgetting how much the RF help the economy in other ways,the amount of charitable work they do and promoting GB around the world

Secondly, do you think it’s fair footballers on 200k a week can have massive mansions and their sons and daughters won’t need to work a day in their life? Same for Music stars and actors etc

 

[Bill Walker]

I'm not missing the point at all. Bill wants the monarchy gone because they have thousands of rooms going spare and believes if it goes then Britain will be a better place.

You at least have added an actual reason in your last paragraph why the Monarchy should go and it's one that is hard to argue with in an ideal world. What about all the rich people's kids though? What's the difference? Is that not the same as being born into the Royal Family? You can't help where you were born. Is it fair that Messi's kids won't have to work a day in their life and go on skiing holidays when they are older?

The fact is though which is the point i am trying to make is that if the Monarchy was no more, sadly nothing would have changed with your Grandad's situation nor would it in Bill's eyes make Britain a better fairer place.

Rich people's kids are not funded in their luxurious lifestyle by the taxpayer.
The RF is. That's the massive difference.