The British Monarchy

[mexico1970]

No hatred towards Kate and Wills and the RF in general - not a big fan but not against having a RF either

I did object to the media coverage and the vile abuse thrown at Meghan specifically- was and still is spiteful,pathetic and depressing how many jumped on board with the bullying.

Now it’s interesting to see the difference in reporting and protecting of Kate by the very same media.
Could you imagine the outcry and rage if Meghan published a completely fake photo and everything that’s followed since ?

The whole saga is intriguing and wondering if it’s all just for publicity, if she’s genuinely ok or she’s just resting up and everything’s fine. I hope it’s the latter.

Again there is a HUGE difference between what Kate didn't do and what Megan did do, namely an interview.

There are people who support anything that would break up or affect the monarchy just like they did with the last princess of Wales, ohhh they loved her and still harp on about conspiracy theories etc.

Make no mistake these people know what they are getting into when they marry into the firm.

I genuinely respect someone's opinions if they are not based purely on hate.

 

[BlueHammer85]

, when the truth is probably far more boring; she edited it because she likes to play around with photos. That's it.

I can’t stand social media conspiracies nowadays but I just find that hard to believe - if that was the case, why wouldn’t they just release the non edited one? The face looks likely to have been superimposed from an early edition of Vogue magazine she did some time ago

 

[mackenzie]

I can’t stand social media conspiracies nowadays but I just find that hard to believe - if that was the case, why wouldn’t they just release the non edited one? The face looks likely to have been superimposed from an early edition of Vogue magazine she did some time ago

I honestly don't know.
Next thing that will be suggested is that she is trying to send us coded messages ;-)

 

[SebastianBlue]

Not really, I was addressing the point of obfuscation.

That point was about people outside of the royal family (in this thread’s case, far, far outside of it) functionally working to obfuscate the inequality—and the inherent issues with it—that the royal family embodies and perpetuates.

 

[oldius]

In 60 years time when Kate dies the people will say "She finally left him".

I don't want any family to break up: it creates an emotional minefield for children to navigate. If she wants out, and I have no idea if that is true, I couldn't blame her because the demands on her are intense, relentlessly so. Yes, privilege, but at what cost?

 

[mexico1970]

I don't want any family to break up: it creates an emotional minefield for children to navigate. If she wants out, and I have no idea if that is true, I couldn't blame her because the demands on her are intense, relentlessly so. Yes, privilege, but at what cost?

It's a tough gig isn't it?

 

[bluenova]

The context is entirely relevant, and you know that as well.

She wasn’t born into an aristocratic family, her parents both worked normal jobs and her family’s wealth appears related to their business activities rather than any trust funds.

The main 'business activity' appears to be their party planning firm, which went bust owing millions.

It takes five minutes to look at the Wikipedia page for the Middleton family to see mention of trust funds, 150 year old family law firms, and other inherited businesses.

 

[SebastianBlue]

The main 'business activity' appears to be their party planning firm, which went bust owing millions.

It takes five minutes to look at the Wikipedia page for the Middleton family to see mention of trust funds, 150 year old family law firms, and other inherited businesses.

And her mother retired and cashed out of that party planning business well before it went bust, meaning it had little impact on the wealth created by it.

This narrative that Kate is “of the people” is just nonsense, and is simply the narrative she and the royal family have carefully crafted since she first began her relationship with William.

And people believing that narrative matters because it acts to legitimise an institution that has outlived its usefulness and now just stands to legitimise inequality and the issues it causes for most people in the nation. That extends to the millionaires and billionaires that knock elbows with the royal family and largely control the political machine of the UK.

By any reasonable measure Kate came from wealth and privilege, and her upbringing was far closer to a person born to the royal family than it was to yours, mine, @mackenzie, or @Brewster's millions.

 

[oldius]

It's a tough gig isn't it?

Definitely, in terms of the media attention, and constant inquiry. I am not a monarchist, but I am not against them either, certainly not as an entity. I will call out the behaviour of individuals, not because they are royal, but because of the way that their misdemeanours are glossed over by our press, who have a vested interest in protecting the institution.

 

[Trickyblues]

Again there is a HUGE difference between what Kate didn't do and what Megan did do, namely an interview.

There are people who support anything that would break up or affect the monarchy just like they did with the last princess of Wales, ohhh they loved her and still harp on about conspiracy theories etc.

Make no mistake these people know what they are getting into when they marry into the firm.

I genuinely respect someone's opinions if they are not based purely on hate.

I’m interested in your thoughts on the media coverage before Meghan did any sort of interview? Because again, the media coverage was far worse (and racist) than what is happening with Kate now.