The British Monarchy

[domalino]

The monarchy do not own the Crown Estate. It is a public body of sorts which is run and feeds into the Treasury. Gifted by the monarchy in exchange for relief on their obligations to fund parliament/pay taxes.

Wrong!

 

[Bill Walker]

If people want to be proud of the strength and power that the British Empire had, arguably the strongest in human history, that's fine, i just prefer it if that pride isn't based on some ridiculous notion that we were also 'really nice'. We weren't. You don't get that much power by being nice, you get it by being ruthless.

Even just in Australia ....Starting in 1794, mass killings were first carried out by British soldiers, then by police and settlers – often acting together – and later by native police, working under the command of white officers.
Thousands of Aboriginals were shot and burned.

The killing times was an extensive investigation by the Guardian.
It's quite an upsetting read tbh.

The killing times: the massacres of Aboriginal people Australia must confront

Special report: Shootings, poisonings and children driven off cliffs – this is a record of state-sanctioned slaughter

www.theguardian.com

Seems that us Brits terrorized large chunks of the world.

 

[WNRH]

Wrong!

Only the first bit is incorrect Donald.

 

[blue44]

 

[bluejon]

Even just in Australia ....Starting in 1794, mass killings were first carried out by British soldiers, then by police and settlers – often acting together – and later by native police, working under the command of white officers.
Thousands of Aboriginals were shot and burned.

The killing times was an extensive investigation by the Guardian.
It's quite an upsetting read tbh.

The killing times: the massacres of Aboriginal people Australia must confront

Special report: Shootings, poisonings and children driven off cliffs – this is a record of state-sanctioned slaughter

www.theguardian.com

Seems that us Brits terrorized large chunks of the world.

Speak for yourself. I wasn't born then.

 

[stonerblue]

The queen was no where near the richest woman in the world.

yeah, but you get my point eh?

 

[AlfGreyruinedmyday]

That's actually a very good but a very depressing point.

So we can't change anything because we would probably get something worse :(

However, I am very much cheered up by the thought of Piers Morgan's reaction if the bolded line came to fruition!!

I would be on the front row (with my knitting).

 

[stonerblue]

Nor Britain.

The Queen was worth about £450m. Denise Coates gets about £300m a year from Bet365, she is worth about ten times what the Queen was.

One of her houses must be worth that much on its own. Or a couple of paintings.

 

[supercity88]

The sitting monarch is the owner of the Crown Estate.

Industry	Property management
Founded	1760
Founder	George III, by establishing the Civil List
Headquarters	St James's Market London, SW1
Key people	Robin Budenberg (Chairman) Dan Labbad (Chief Executive)
Products	Property, residential, seabed management, real estate services, offices, and shopping centres
Revenue	£486.9 million (2021)
Net income	£269.3 million (2021)[1] 75% to HM Treasury 25% to The Monarch
AUM	£15.2 billion (2021)
Owner	Charles III (in right of The Crown)
Number of employees	430[citation needed]
Website	www.thecrownestate.co.uk

Wrong!

Apologies I meant that they do not have the ability to sell it which ownership might imply when the context was about the wealth of the monarchy. Income from the crown lands were surrendered to parliament and payment towards the cost of civil government abrogated. This was of course because the cost exceeded the revenue! The current income of 25% of the Crown Estate's revenue is due to the extra cost for various refurbishments, and it is supposed to reduce to 15% by 2027. Arguably, as key historic buildings that additional cost is something the majority of the country would support...although most certainly to a higher degree if access to the general public was allowed!

Back to the original point, I wouldn't include the Crown Estates assets towards the monarchy's rather large wealth. But I would include 25% of it!

 

[Mad Eyed Screamer]

A simple solution (and surprisingly one the Tories have never thought of) is to privatise the royal family. Those that desire it can fund it. Those that don't can opt out. Then all the Yanks and Japanese tourists can pay a toll to get through a gate to walk or drive down the Mall and stand outside Buck Palace or Windsor etc.

 

[mancity2012_eamo]

A simple solution (and surprisingly one the Tories have never thought of) is to privatise the royal family. Those that desire it can fund it. Those that don't can opt out. Then all the Yanks and Japanese tourists can pay a toll to get through a gate to walk or drive down the Mall and stand outside Buck Palace or Windsor etc.

It would be like Disneyland.
You could open up new theme parks around the world, with the franchise.
It is a new form of colonisation after all.

 

[Bluesince1979]

Given how left wing this forum generally is i reckon you could say the YES vote for the general public would be 60+%

 

[Mad Eyed Screamer]

It would be like Disneyland.
You could open up new theme parks around the world, with the franchise.
It is a new form of colonisation after all.

Camelot - near Chorley - lies empty, all the roller coaster fixtures still standing..... wouldn't take a lot to restore it.
Just guarantee one royal per week will be there at 1pm - 2pm on a float surrounded by court jesters and Baldrick style characters travelling through the park.

Prince Andrew can start to repay his £12m back by being full time selling candifloss...

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

Given how left wing this forum generally is i reckon you could say the YES vote for the general public would be 60+%

You think the UAE is in Saudi Arabia though, so your opinion is invalid.

 

[inbetween]

I mean...who came up with these valuations?

Buckingham Palace and/or the land it's on would be worth literally billions alone.

She was the sole owner of The Crown Estates ltd, which owns the palace, but in an attempt to obfuscate the royal families wealth, people pretend she doesn't own Buckingham Palace.

The sovereign technically owns all land in the UK so there's a bit of an exception to be made here really.

If you own your house and have no-one to pass it onto after you die then it's returned to the crown/treasury who sells it.

 

[Bluesince1979]

You think the UAE is in Saudi Arabia though, so your opinion is invalid.

Think youre getting me mixed up with someone else my friend. Never had such a convo. You better check who that was.

So on that basis your opinion means absolutely fuck all.

Nice try , but must try harder

 

[Protein Junkie]

A simple solution (and surprisingly one the Tories have never thought of) is to privatise the royal family. Those that desire it can fund it. Those that don't can opt out. Then all the Yanks and Japanese tourists can pay a toll to get through a gate to walk or drive down the Mall and stand outside Buck Palace or Windsor etc.

The G4S Royal Family or The Royal Family brought to you by Interserve.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

If people want to be proud of the strength and power that the British Empire had, arguably the strongest in human history, that's fine, i just prefer it if that pride isn't based on some ridiculous notion that we were also 'really nice'. We weren't. You don't get that much power by being nice, you get it by being ruthless.

Compared to other Empires we were ‘quite nice’.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Nor Britain.

The Queen was worth about £450m. Denise Coates gets about £300m a year from Bet365, she is worth about ten times what the Queen was.

She has to live in Stoke, though.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

I mean...who came up with these valuations?

Buckingham Palace and/or the land it's on would be worth literally billions alone.

She was the sole owner of The Crown Estates ltd, which owns the palace, but in an attempt to obfuscate the royal families wealth, people pretend she doesn't own Buckingham Palace.

It will cost about £450 million a year to heat.