The British Monarchy

Kirkstall Blue said:
Mike they already got rid of the Royal yacht Britannia and the Royal train, she came back from Edinburgh on a C 14 troop carrier, this afternoon an ancient gun carriage and they walked behind the procession and didn’t waste any petrol
Mass redundancy would happen if they sacked all the cooks cleaners etc it would be thousands on the dole from all the people employed in the Royal business it’s an industry in itself gardeners it’s everything.
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Its a tax funded industry that does nothing for the economy, they are all tax funded jobs. The money saved would be better spent on helping those most vulnerable in society get through this difficult period.
 
Mike D said:
Its a tax funded industry that does nothing for the economy, they are all tax funded jobs. The money saved would be better spent on helping those most vulnerable in society get through this difficult period.
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Ah right so non of millions of tourists visiting London to see all that stuff bring anything in then?
 
Cheesy said:
Yep, I agree. I've never been an avid Royalist (despite my time in the Armed Forces) but neither was I particularly anti them. To me, the Monarchy has always been just something that has been there, not really affecting my life in any tangible way.

However, since the passing of the Queen I find myself looking on in total bemusement with the way the media, businesses and a sizeable minority of the public are behaving.

The subservience being shown is bloody ridiculous. The Royals are not better (some might say they are worse) or more important than us 'normal' people yet most of what is occurring at the moment just reinforces the view that they are. They are certainly not more important than my Mom whose hospital appointment for Monday has been cancelled meaning she's going to spend even longer in excruciating pain.

By the way, my local is closing because the landlord (who I know very well) is concerned about a possible backlash about being 'disrespectful' if he stays open, not because he's particularly bothered about the Queen's passing. The fact that he feels as though he has to do that is utterly ridiculous.

In the Royalty / Republican debate I think I'm now firmly in the corner of the latter.
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I think the confusion here is some people think that getting rid of the royal family will somehow resolve all of their problems but the fact is it won't. Your mum having her appointment cancelled is down to completely idiotic decision making by the NHS who in this case seem to think they're running an optional service.

For many people aside from everything the royals are a comfort and something to look up to, that sounds a bit nutty but there's also the nostalgia and massive history which people just really like. I'm not a massive royalist but I understand their position and to be honest I don't mind them compared to the rabble in Westminster who would be in absolute power without a monarchy. Those are the people you should be blaming.

Another way of looking at it is to compare us to other countries, or at least the 'better' ones? Norway and Denmark are amongst the best places in the world to live yet both are constitutional monarchies. The only difference between us and those countries is not the monarchy but rather the political system so I think you can see where I'm going with this...
 
I wonder how many of the Royalists think that religion is silly or that hell-ya-americanism is a joke?
 
aguero93:20 said:
Always thought the Irish way was better, get them in the ground ASAP and give the poor family some closure.
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Still think 3-4 days is too slow. In many Mediterranean countries (given the heat) they’re often held on the same day as the death. Healthier both physically and psychologically, in my humble.
 
aguero93:20 said:
Always thought the Irish way was better, get them in the ground ASAP and give the poor family some closure.
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Which is all well and good until your Dad dies on holiday in Ireland and his Irish surname means that the half deaf lunatic undertaker they've sent you is a bit too keen to try and get him in the ground in the 'old country' rather than repatriate him to Manchester, then it all goes a bit fucking Father Ted on you ! :-)
 
Kirkstall Blue said:
Mike they already got rid of the Royal yacht Britannia and the Royal train, she came back from Edinburgh on a C 14 troop carrier, this afternoon an ancient gun carriage and they walked behind the procession and didn’t waste any petrol
Mass redundancy would happen if they sacked all the cooks cleaners etc it would be thousands on the dole from all the people employed in the Royal business it’s an industry in itself gardeners it’s everything.
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They announced possible redundancies in the royal household a few days ago.
 
Cheesy said:
Yep, I agree. I've never been an avid Royalist (despite my time in the Armed Forces) but neither was I particularly anti them. To me, the Monarchy has always been just something that has been there, not really affecting my life in any tangible way.

However, since the passing of the Queen I find myself looking on in total bemusement with the way the media, businesses and a sizeable minority of the public are behaving.

The subservience being shown is bloody ridiculous. The Royals are not better (some might say they are worse) or more important than us 'normal' people yet most of what is occurring at the moment just reinforces the view that they are. They are certainly not more important than my Mom whose hospital appointment for Monday has been cancelled meaning she's going to spend even longer in excruciating pain.

By the way, my local is closing because the landlord (who I know very well) is concerned about a possible backlash about being 'disrespectful' if he stays open, not because he's particularly bothered about the Queen's passing. The fact that he feels as though he has to do that is utterly ridiculous.

In the Royalty / Republican debate I think I'm now firmly in the corner of the latter.
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Cool story bro!
 
Mike D said:
I am not sure how reliable this is but Prince Andrew is set to resume royal duties again under King Charles
If this is true then it appears that the royal family just wants to draw a line under his misdemeanors and let the late Queen's favourate son come back into the family fold.
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Huge mistake if true.
Many people that would be prepared to give Charles the benefit of the doubt about everything else will see this as a step too far, and he will lose a lot of support.
 
Cheesy said:
Yep, I agree. I've never been an avid Royalist (despite my time in the Armed Forces) but neither was I particularly anti them. To me, the Monarchy has always been just something that has been there, not really affecting my life in any tangible way.

However, since the passing of the Queen I find myself looking on in total bemusement with the way the media, businesses and a sizeable minority of the public are behaving.

The subservience being shown is bloody ridiculous. The Royals are not better (some might say they are worse) or more important than us 'normal' people yet most of what is occurring at the moment just reinforces the view that they are. They are certainly not more important than my Mom whose hospital appointment for Monday has been cancelled meaning she's going to spend even longer in excruciating pain.

By the way, my local is closing because the landlord (who I know very well) is concerned about a possible backlash about being 'disrespectful' if he stays open, not because he's particularly bothered about the Queen's passing. The fact that he feels as though he has to do that is utterly ridiculous.

In the Royalty / Republican debate I think I'm now firmly in the corner of the latter.
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It's surely ironic that the two members of the Royal Family who served the longest, and the only ones to serve in war zones, are also the only ones who are not wandering around plastered in medals this week*.

*obviously not arguing with the reasoning in one of those cases.
 
A couple on my road arrange a macmillan coffee morning every year. A few neighbours sit on the street for an hour with a raffle and a little stall. Was arranged for this Sunday. They have cancelled it out of respect for the queen. Totally baffling. A small cancer charity event on a different day being cancelled.
 
johnmc said:
A couple on my road arrange a macmillan coffee morning every year. A few neighbours sit on the street for an hour with a raffle and a little stall. Was arranged for this Sunday. They have cancelled it out of respect for the queen. Totally baffling. A small cancer charity event on a different day being cancelled.
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It'll soon be reported that they were forced to cancel or suffer the consequences of the British establishment.
 
My mate is head of armed response at the airport and trained bodyguard, he was meant to go on holiday yesterday but didn’t go as he was asked to go and do security for the king of Kuwait
He wasn’t sure but I think the money involved helped his mrs in her decision lol


What this funeral must be costing is mind blowing
 
argyle said:
I typed in Dutch/Swedish model and I got this guy.

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