The British Monarchy

OccupiedPalestineBlues said:
Haha I don’t do TV but my biscuit eating is phenomenal (I say while reaching for the Peek Freans chocolate assortment).
And I’m not miserable about it - what would be the point?

I’m just highly amused by the chest beating from those who fail to appreciate that this German / Greek conglomerate
- takes tax money from us (money taken from poor people that could, for instance, save the lives of good folk if put into the NHS).

- has the enshrined power to vet our laws before they are enacted so that they can insert clauses that exclude them from obeying said laws (and have done over 150 times during the last reign to excuse them of our laws in both their royal and private capacities - hence why they can be barbarically cruel to animals on their private estates, why they don’t follow employment laws or pay due taxes etc.) Yes they are and continuously act above the law.

- makes what we wrongly refer to as ’our’ police and ‘our’ armed forces swear allegiance to them personally, and not to the British people (yes, when push comes to shove our police forces are effectively a private police force for the royals and the armed forces that we pay for is in fact private army with it’s mission being their protection, not ours).

There’s nothing I can do about it except laugh at the perverse stupidity of it all - and anyhow, set against the context of us being so stupid that we‘re busy destroying our planet and wiping ourselves out, it just pales into insignificance . .

Must admit that I am a bit peeved that the football got cancelled though ;-)
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I can't understand why the footie was cancelled either, and as I have stated earlier this week it's just the pomp and ceremony that I like and want to keep, not the cap doffing sycophancy.

To draw an analogy which is simple and not a massive reflection of the situation.

We went to buy some wallpaper at Lancashire wallpaper and my wife pointed out some paper she liked for £40 a roll, I countered with a roll that was £3.50. She convinced me that it looked nice and it was worth the money just to have a bit of embellishment in the living room.

The royal family are an embellishment, I don't mean the Viscounts and the royals who aren't anywhere near the big job or of course the vultures residing in the house of lords.
 
OccupiedPalestineBlues said:
Conversely, I’m amazed that less than 50% want to have some Germans ruling over us, especially at a time where we’re being bombarded 24/7 will pro-monarchy propaganda.

I‘m not really that arsed either way but I think the pro-Charles the whatever fervour will subside dramatically when the propaganda diminishes and everyone remembers he was Jimmy Saville‘s best mate (and Rolf’s) and brother to one of Epstein’s clique who claims he can’t sweat and who recently forked out £12million to a girl he didn’t know and never met to make a claim of sexual abuse of a minor go away.

Each to their own though.
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They’re not Germans. Born and bred here fella last time I checked. German ancestry (plus others) but unless you’re a fully paid up member of the National Front I can’t see how that would mither you.

We’re mostly all 45th generation Romans anyway. Except the gingers.
 
metalblue said:
They’re not Germans. Born and bred here fella last time I checked. German ancestry (plus others) but unless you’re a fully paid up member of the National Front I can’t see how that would mither you.

We’re mostly all 45th generation Romans anyway. Except the gingers.
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Less of that nonsense, there are some people who you can't call British/English and there are some people you can.

It doesn't matter that your father your grandfather and your great grandfathers father were all born in Britain :)
 
metalblue said:
They’re not Germans. Born and bred here fella last time I checked. German ancestry (plus others) but unless you’re a fully paid up member of the National Front I can’t see how that would mither you.

We’re mostly all 45th generation Romans anyway. Except the gingers.
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Good English surname in Windsor too.
 
mexico1970 said:
Less of that nonsense, there are some people who you can't call British/English and there are some people you can.

It doesn't matter that your Father your Grandfather and your Great Grandfather Father were all born in Britain :)
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I live in a small village and unless you’ve got a relative named on the war memorial you’re not welcome in the pub. Fortunately Mrs MB does….as well as 6 fingers but it’s a small price to pay for being able to have a pint.
 
metalblue said:
I live in a small village and unless you’ve got a relative named on the war memorial you’re not welcome in the pub. Fortunately Mrs MB does….as well as 6 fingers but it’s a small price to pay for being able to have a pint.
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You're a foreigner, just accept it and move on.

And by "Move on" as in find somewhere else to live ;)
 
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Coatigan said:
I'm not sure it would be that easy. Or would even necessarily get anywhere. There are lots of things the majority of the country doesn't want, but still happen.

But I'm not actually saying it is ' impossible', obviously. Just that it isn't a choice to make, as presented in that point. Not in a 'we have no choice' type of way in the slightest, more that it isn't a thing that is in motion in any way.

Agree that the majority are happy with the monarchy, and I have to admit this thread and the Queen's death one have surprised me with the number of opinions against it.
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It’s surprised me too, but I’ve also found it very interesting.
I’d agree with you that it is nowhere near being a decision that will be put to the people, possibly because regardless of the dissenting voices, I really don’t see it being a majority opinion in Britain.
I’m indifferent to that, but regarding your relationship with ourselves and of course NI, I do think you could have gone a step further in changing items in your constitution in good faith.
We altered our constitution on foot of a referendum for the GFA and in fairness have been updating our constitution for decades to make a more modern and inclusive society.

Whether you see the crown being removed from other commonwealth countries, whether you see Scotland having the balls to go solo, we’ll that’s a different ball game.
 
metalblue said:
They’re not Germans. Born and bred here fella last time I checked. German ancestry (plus others) but unless you’re a fully paid up member of the National Front I can’t see how that would mither you.

We’re mostly all 45th generation Romans anyway. Except the gingers.
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Exactly, he’s seemingly got a weird fascination with anyone that’s not 12th generation Anglo-Saxon which is obviously amusing as the only reason the house of Hannover was even inline to the thrown was their own British ancestry.

As for the “we pay for them” bollocks. Fine, do away with the civil list but give them back the Crown Estate. That will only cost the British taxpayer over £15bn.
 
mexico1970 said:
I can't understand why the footie was cancelled either, and as I have stated earlier this week it's just the pomp and ceremony that I like and want to keep, not the cap doffing sycophancy.

To draw an analogy which is simple and not a massive reflection of the situation.

We went to buy some wallpaper at Lancashire wallpaper and my wife pointed out some paper she liked for £40 a roll, I countered with a roll that was £3.50. She convinced me that it looked nice and it was worth the money just to have a bit of embellishment in the living room.

The royal family are an embellishment, I don't mean the Viscounts and the royals who aren't anywhere near the big job or of course the vultures residing in the house of lords.
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I can understand that perspective.
If they had to obey our laws, had to pay our taxes and did an agreed number of hours as our representatives then I’d probably be for that as a stepping stone towards an elected president other than Charlie having been well in with Saville & Harris and Andrew being in with Epstein.

So, in short, I’m not against having representatives of the people and would be cool if they were voted in and if they were ‘of the people’ rather than above the law . . and no nonces.
 
OccupiedPalestineBlues said:
I can understand that perspective.
If they had to obey our laws, had to pay our taxes and did an agreed number of hours as our representatives then I’d probably be for that as a stepping stone towards an elected president other than Charlie having been well in with Saville & Harris and Andrew being in with Epstein.

So, in short, I’m not against having representatives of the people and would be cool if they were voted in and if they were ‘of the people’ rather than above the law . . and no nonces.
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If we actually voted the head of state in, in this country we are that bent out of shape that the person we are electing would have had to have no political leanings or one half of the country would love him/her and the other would hate them.

We are living in strange times mate.
 
mexico1970 said:
If we actually voted the head of state in, in this country we are that bent out of shape that the person we are electing would have had to have no political leanings or one half of the country would love him/her and the other would hate them.

We are living in strange times mate.
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We’d also vote Kingy McKingface
 
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