The Calais problem (merged)

Just listened to one of the would be British citizens rampaging around Calais that it cost him 8000 Euros to get there. Forgive me for being sceptical, but how many on here can lay their hands on around £6000 quid? If he's come from dire poverty from a destitute country, that sort of money should allow him to live very well for quite some time, if he's escaping war and persecution my cock's a kipper.

He probably rang Wonga.

You know this human trafficking they talk about and the fact some one is helping them and has their claws deep into them.
It will be one of them.
 
He probably rang Wonga.

You know this human trafficking they talk about and the fact some one is helping them and has their claws deep into them.
It will be one of them.

Yet more reasons NOT to let them in. We could find out who the traffickers are and try to deal with them or give the traffickers access by proxy to the UK and allow the mystery people in so they can fulfil their obligations to their evil warlord pals.
 
No mate you were that busy enjoying yourself, i left the room to give you peace and privacy.
I bet you was fucking gutted then, imagine someone else with one of your hero's, a man who despised this Country and it's people but chose to live here spouting anti British shite on internet forums every day, alas pretty much like yourself eh Mr Landlord, why don't you gather a couple of your mates together and drive over to Calais and open up a soup kitchen or a nice little ironmongers selling wire cutters i'm sure some of the poor downtrodden refugees will find a way of thanking you....after they have put down their shiny expensive smart phones that they all seem to have
 
82% of the population of Uganda earn less than 1 US dollar a day. Someone from a third world country with the ability to access 8,000 Euros is far from destitute in third world terms.
Indeed, but we mustn't pre-judge, he may be a successful drug dealer wishing to expand his business.
A perfect case for granting asylum, judging by some who've received it.
 
What you need is a camp that can hold 100k in Italy france and england where everyone can get assessed then the individuals placed/settled in a European country! Cost a fortune but needs to be done..
 
I bet you was fucking gutted then, imagine someone else with one of your hero's, a man who despised this Country and it's people but chose to live here spouting anti British shite on internet forums every day, alas pretty much like yourself eh Mr Landlord, why don't you gather a couple of your mates together and drive over to Calais and open up a soup kitchen or a nice little ironmongers selling wire cutters i'm sure some of the poor downtrodden refugees will find a way of thanking you....after they have put down their shiny expensive smart phones that they all seem to have

Quality foaming that, anything else you want to write to keep making a right tit of yourself?
 
Just listened to one of the would be British citizens rampaging around Calais that it cost him 8000 Euros to get there. Forgive me for being sceptical, but how many on here can lay their hands on around £6000 quid? If he's come from dire poverty from a destitute country, that sort of money should allow him to live very well for quite some time, if he's escaping war and persecution my cock's a kipper.
They dont have it, some organised crime human trafficker 'lends' it to them, thereby effectively putting that person into servitude for the rest of their lives
 
FYI, Chakrobarty is a past winner of an Economic Illiteracy award from the Adam Smith Institute. Also, he has no academic qualifications in economics.

The Adam Smith is a far right think tank full of neo-liberal whacko fruitcakes.

The Chancellor of the Exchequer has NO academic qualifications in Economics.
 
You want to allow people access to this country without them showing what their true identity is, don't you find that a little off to say the least?

You access here without showing your true identity, Dazdon the hypocrite.

Lots find that a little off too.
 
You're missing the point that most of these are lying as to who they are and in a lot of cases are violent, this isn't a case of desperately poor people on the run far from it.
Unlike you I haven't met and done a background study of the individuals trying to get in to the UK so can't pretend I know they are al good honest sorts who look after their grans. I guess you have been out there and met them I haven't so I guess I will have to bow to your first hand knowledge.

Otherwise if this isn't true you know no more that anyone else , you just try to kid yourself they are all evil so you can have no conscience about not giving a shit! The world has never been black or white it has always been both and to pretend otherwise for intellectual ease is to ignore reality. This isn't goodies and baddies it is something of everything. Lefties who pretend they are all good are as deluded as righties who pretend they are all evil!

I have no doubt some are nasty - I wouldn't argue , just like some refugees from ww2 were nazis , I have no doubt that some are genuine also. I guess you can choose to always look for the worst in people or to believe that humanity is a little better than that - your choice. You can choose to deny genuine refugees help just in case some liars get in with them or you can help those in need accepting that sometimes you might help the undeserving - c'est la vie
 
Unlike you I haven't met and done a background study of the individuals trying to get in to the UK

Try watching the news it's only a click away, you can watch the news where you are and gather accounts from the wonderful internet it's a free world. Fortunately the govt are sending Dogs and fences rather than humanitarian aid and they are not going to listen to the hand holders that couldn't tell their arse from their elbow. That'll be you cobber.
 
Try watching the news it's only a click away, you can watch the news where you are and gather accounts from the wonderful internet it's a free world. Fortunately the govt are sending Dogs and fences rather than humanitarian aid and they are not going to listen to the hand holders that couldn't tell their arse from their elbow. That'll be you cobber.

I am neither a pitch fork wielder or a hand holder I live in the real world where complex problems have complex solutions . I think neither the simple folk who want simple solutions from left or right are remotely close to solving the issues. You want to live in a fantasy Daily Mail world that's fine others might live in a fantasy world on the other side. The real world lives in the real world and deals with real problems which are not the simple one line solutions that tabloid writers on both sides fill minds with.
 
Try watching the news it's only a click away, you can watch the news where you are and gather accounts from the wonderful internet it's a free world. Fortunately the govt are sending Dogs and fences rather than humanitarian aid and they are not going to listen to the hand holders that couldn't tell their arse from their elbow. That'll be you cobber.
The news which is owned and driven by independent neutral people who care about the news and always ensure it is the truth and written without agenda.

The government doesn't give a crap about what is right or wrong it cares about what a certain groups of media outlets will say is right and wrong. Remember what the news said about Hillsborough.
 
What you need is a camp that can hold 100k in Italy france and england where everyone can get assessed then the individuals placed/settled in a European country! Cost a fortune but needs to be done..
Probably the first actual sensible post or possible solution in the thread. Though I suspect 100000 would become 500000 if the problems on the Middle East aren't sorted.
 
Well as the saying goes "there's always light at the end of the tunnel"

but nowadays there's also a shitload of immigrants...
 
They dont have it, some organised crime human trafficker 'lends' it to them, thereby effectively putting that person into servitude for the rest of their lives

Also anyone who believes that people put up by news channels and news papers is there to do anything other than serve the agenda of the outlet concerned is being naive in the extreme. The guardian will try to find and interview a poor innocent religious minority person whose wife was murdered and is escaping genuine persecution, the express and mail will look for an ex gangster who paid 5000 to try and escape his sordid past and get into Britain to get rich. No doubt there are both types but to pretend they are all one or the other is deliberately twisting facts or just being not very bright. Unfortunately a hell of a lot of people fall into both camps

What you say is spot on very often criminals fund these situations for their gain and things aren't quite so black or white as most want to believe.
 
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