The Catholic Church and Homosexuality

Chancy Termites said:
anyone in that category needs to choose one or the other.

Really??????

And what is the Viewpoint of an Anglican? out of interest

You come into a thread about Catholicism and attach it's viewpoint across the whole of Christianity

Smart cookie
 
Read a very good article on the sins of the Catholic church and at the end of it this paragraph stood out

Given the arrogant cruelty of Church leaders, criticism to date has been remarkably tempered. As the Bishops flash their moral authority in the White House and media and pulpit, clothed in white robes and draped in crimson , they should be glad they aren’t eyeball to eyeball with Jesus himself. As the writer of Matthew tells it, he called out the corrupt religious leaders of his day in no uncertain terms: Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You are like whitewashed tombs, which look beautiful on the outside but on the inside are full of dead men's bones and everything unclean.
 
bobmcfc said:
Read a very good article on the sins of the Catholic church and at the end of it this paragraph stood out

Given the arrogant cruelty of Church leaders, criticism to date has been remarkably tempered. As the Bishops flash their moral authority in the White House and media and pulpit, clothed in white robes and draped in crimson , they should be glad they aren’t eyeball to eyeball with Jesus himself. As the writer of Matthew tells it, he called out the corrupt religious leaders of his day in no uncertain terms: Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You are like whitewashed tombs, which look beautiful on the outside but on the inside are full of dead men's bones and everything unclean.

Unfortunately bob, Jesus is just another in a long line of messiahs, it's all fictitious shite

A set of scriptures that enlightened areas such as genetics really would of been impressive, in fact, I'd of signed up for that no end..... The word of god has spoken, although he forgot to take the biology, psychology and physics modules!!!
 
Zin 'messiah' Zimmer said:
bobmcfc said:
Read a very good article on the sins of the Catholic church and at the end of it this paragraph stood out

Given the arrogant cruelty of Church leaders, criticism to date has been remarkably tempered. As the Bishops flash their moral authority in the White House and media and pulpit, clothed in white robes and draped in crimson , they should be glad they aren’t eyeball to eyeball with Jesus himself. As the writer of Matthew tells it, he called out the corrupt religious leaders of his day in no uncertain terms: Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You are like whitewashed tombs, which look beautiful on the outside but on the inside are full of dead men's bones and everything unclean.

Unfortunately bob, Jesus is just another in a long line of messiahs, it's all fictitious shite

A set of scriptures that enlightened areas such as genetics really would of been impressive, in fact, I'd of signed up for that no end..... The word of god has spoken, although he forgot to take the biology, psychology and physics modules!!!

I think the last paragraph written with a hint of sarcasm and irony. The previous four pages were certainly an eyeopener but not that surprising when I thought about all the draconian rules that exist within the faith
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.alternet.org/story/155828/8_ugly_sins_of_the_catholic_church" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.alternet.org/story/155828/8_ ... lic_church</a>
 
Zin 'messiah' Zimmer said:
Chancy Termites said:
anyone in that category needs to choose one or the other.

Really??????

And what is the Viewpoint of an Anglican? out of interest

You come into a thread about Catholicism and attach it's viewpoint across the whole of Christianity

Smart cookie

What made you think I have any regard for any religion at all? For the record, I'm not gay and I'm not religious.

The point I made was that for a Christian to support homosexuality, they need to go against the teachings of the very person they claim to follow. That's as true for any one branch of Christianity as another. In your first reply, you appeared to agree about that, unless I missed something.
 
Are religious people finally cottoning on to the fact that some of their beliefs are outdated and plain wrong? It's about time.
 
bobmcfc said:
Zin 'messiah' Zimmer said:
bobmcfc said:
Read a very good article on the sins of the Catholic church and at the end of it this paragraph stood out

Unfortunately bob, Jesus is just another in a long line of messiahs, it's all fictitious shite

A set of scriptures that enlightened areas such as genetics really would of been impressive, in fact, I'd of signed up for that no end..... The word of god has spoken, although he forgot to take the biology, psychology and physics modules!!!

I think the last paragraph written with a hint of sarcasm and irony. The previous four pages were certainly an eyeopener but not that surprising when I thought about all the draconian rules that exist within the faith
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.alternet.org/story/155828/8_ugly_sins_of_the_catholic_church" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.alternet.org/story/155828/8_ ... lic_church</a>

Not a bad read, I'm glad it touched upon the healthcare sector, with Obama care so hidden in corruption, the Catholic Church now being associated is only good for exposure..... I tell you what, we'll close all out churches, declare bankruptcy in 80% of our diocese across the US because of historical CSE claims and reinvest in a new piece of legislation, ones our friends in the White House assures us will be a keeper.....

Like I said earlier, burn the fucking Vatican to the ground!!!!
 
mad4city said:
If one accepts that, whatever your personal opinions of the institution, there will always be a Catholic Church, then this can only be a good thing. It moves at a glacial pace though, the Vatican. So, I doubt we'll be seeing the LBGT community getting a fair shake (ooh er, missus) from them in our lifetimes either, mind. Not that the Catholic Church is alone in that, I suppose.

Dave Ewing's Back 'eader said:
It always bemuses me that there seems to be a limit on what various churches call 'Christian charity'! It's thumped out - faith, hope and charity - but when it comes to certain aspects of daily life, charity goes out of the window!

How very true.

Zin 'messiah' Zimmer said:
I noticed ratzinger was welcomed as a saint by the new incarnate of Christ last week, let's just forget he's culpable for covering up over 200,000 rapes worldwide the evil bastard, also citing homosexuality as the catalyst for pedophiles....... Burn the whole fucking thing to the ground and be done with it!!!

Firstly, you surely meant Pope John Paul II because Ratzinger (equally guilty of all of the above in my humble etc) is still alive, isn't he?
Also, if I may say so, you had a fair point to make but you let yourself down with some of the terms (Popery), random statistics (not sure that 20,000 rapes excused is necessarially worse than just one) and excitable rhetoric (burn it to the ground?) that you used.
There are millions of decent, honourable Catholics who would be deeply offended by that sort of language - and I think they'd have every right to be. I don't want to sound patronising but I can't imagine that that was your intention, was it? God knows, there's none of us going to change much waffling to each other on here but if the advice of a random eejit on the interweb is worth anything to you: you'll never change anybody's opinions with that tone.
No one gives offence. Some people just choose to take it.

And to be fair, I couldn't give if some lunatics take offence at anyone's tone or for the fact that they feel their imaginary friend has been wronged.

Religion is a cancer on humanity.
 
Zin 'messiah' Zimmer said:
bobmcfc said:
Zin 'messiah' Zimmer said:
Unfortunately bob, Jesus is just another in a long line of messiahs, it's all fictitious shite

A set of scriptures that enlightened areas such as genetics really would of been impressive, in fact, I'd of signed up for that no end..... The word of god has spoken, although he forgot to take the biology, psychology and physics modules!!!

I think the last paragraph written with a hint of sarcasm and irony. The previous four pages were certainly an eyeopener but not that surprising when I thought about all the draconian rules that exist within the faith
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.alternet.org/story/155828/8_ugly_sins_of_the_catholic_church" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.alternet.org/story/155828/8_ ... lic_church</a>

Not a bad read, I'm glad it touched upon the healthcare sector, with Obama care so hidden in corruption, the Catholic Church now being associated is only good for exposure..... I tell you what, we'll close all out churches, declare bankruptcy in 80% of our diocese across the US because of historical CSE claims and reinvest in a new piece of legislation, ones our friends in the White House assures us will be a keeper.....

Like I said earlier, burn the fucking Vatican to the ground!!!!

The part that focused on the lies regarding contraception were wild. You wouldn't think in this day and age that there would be so many willing to put the worlds population at risk and not be immediately denounced by the powers that be !! Instead they are worshiped and revered by millions. It's all truly shocking
 

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