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[BobKowalski]

I agree, but rather than nationalise it, it would've been a better sell to incentivise/subsidise private companies to make the investment in better infrastructure and cheaper rates

Yeah, I can see that.

 

[Bill]

love this thread . like rag cafe on crack.

 

[Ban-jani]

love this thread . like rag cafe on crack.

More like RAWK.

 

[Vic]

But that’s different from Labour’s nationalism policy isn’t it?

Similar to the water board, it just seems to work even though they’re private but highly regulated.

When you have retired industry experts saying it will be a disaster, who have nothing to gain nor lose, it’s obvious it’s an ideological policy over anything else.

As I keep repeating, I’m not a private enterprise monkey, who constantly pushes capitalism as an ideology in every industry, I fully support Starmer’s promise of nationalising rail, mail and utilities... I just think on this occasion I agree with Johnson... it’s a “crackpot idea”.

Scottish and Welsh Water are nationalised.

Are you sure the former chairman of BT has nothing to lose? No shares in his remuneration package? And if he said nationalised broadband would lead to job losses, doesn't that suggest that it might be more efficient?

 

[Ban-jani]

Scottish and Welsh Water are nationalised.

Are you sure the former chairman of BT has nothing to lose? No shares in his remuneration package? And if he said nationalised broadband would lead to job losses, doesn't that suggest that it might be more efficient?

Well now you say it, of course I am not sure but one would think the old fella is probably done with making his cash and maybe he’s focused on what’s important.

Well if job losses for efficiency were a good thing, why would Corbyn support that as a socialist? Surely that’s a very capitalist perspective?

 

[Vic]

Well now you say it, of course I am not sure but one would think the old fella is probably done with making his cash and maybe he’s focused on what’s important.

Well if job losses for efficiency were a good thing, why would Corbyn support that as a socialist? Surely that’s a very capitalist perspective?

I have no idea how socialism equates to inefficiency. Compared to the US health system, the NHS is brilliantly efficient.

 

[Ban-jani]

I have no idea how socialism equates to inefficiency. Compared to the US health system, the NHS is brilliantly efficient.

I didn’t realise I said it did?

I said that if the point of nationalising Openreach was to get rid of jobs to make it more efficient, that’s against what socialism is supposed to stand for.

Oh and on a separate point, private healthcare is more efficient when you use it, if you can afford it but it’s not more efficient at saving lives.

I also happen to think socialism in the railway industry would work.

 

[Ifwecouldjust.......]

But that’s different from Labour’s nationalism policy isn’t it?

Similar to the water board, it just seems to work even though they’re private but highly regulated.

When you have retired industry experts saying it will be a disaster, who have nothing to gain nor lose, it’s obvious it’s an ideological policy over anything else.

As I keep repeating, I’m not a private enterprise monkey, who constantly pushes capitalism as an ideology in every industry, I fully support Starmer’s promise of nationalising rail, mail and utilities... I just think on this occasion I agree with Johnson... it’s a “crackpot idea”.

Nope .... labours policy on nationalisation of OpenReach (as per the last manifesto) was based on the Conservative report.

 

[Ban-jani]

Nope .... labours policy on nationalisation of OpenReach (as per the last manifesto) was based on the Conservative report.

How ?

 

[BobKowalski]

This is just phoning it in. It’s virtue signalling during a pandemic with over a thousand a day dying and Brexit issues galore.

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