Ahh okay, yeah fair enough.
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The Conservative Party
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Ifwecouldjust.......
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ive only listed the top fruitcakes ...theres loads of nutters below themThe only conclusion I can possibly come up with is that the people of Essex are incredibly stupid. (lot of rags in Essex, so probably accurate)
That reads like a who's who of political crackpots.
bluethrunthru
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Do they literally think this is true? REALLY?
a campaigning masterstroke from Bailey - he is the best campaigning tool Sadiq Khan has.......and yes the tool pun was intended
bluejon
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You are significantly more hopeful than those who are actually having to implement this. The deal is a complete mess, as will become clear over the next few months. It didn't have to be this way, a sensible deal could have been put in place, but this is what happens when a man who hasn't even read it all is in charge of implementing it. Johnson doesn't care, he just wants his fans to think he's great, to the detriment of us all.It’s not great no but there’s a ton of hyperbole and yes these are teething problems, the ports will be sorted and in a few months things will be running very smoothly.
Let’s not forget the EU also want this to be more seamless.
a campaigning masterstroke from Bailey - he is the best campaigning tool Sadiq Khan has.......and yes the tool pun was intended
Loving the ides that the Gammons Party has a candidate called Mr Ukip, who'd have thought.
a campaigning masterstroke from Bailey - he is the best campaigning tool Sadiq Khan has.......and yes the tool pun was intended
As if London was going to vote any other way?
They’re one of about 3 places that voted Labour in 2019.
bluethrunthru
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Loving the ides that the Gammons Party has a candidate called Mr Ukip, who'd have thought.
In a report that accompanied that poll the even better news is that whilst Mr Gammons may have 2% of people who favour his candidacy they couldn't find any Londoner who could envisage themselves voting for the Reform Party - Farage may well have grifted himself into a corner at long last
And out of touch with most of the rest of the country anyway.As if London was going to vote any other way?
They’re one of about 3 places that voted Labour in 2019.
Vicious111
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Scottish Tories are few and bar between. Thankfully. The Scottish Conservatives have become a parody party that are constantly left red faced by their Westminster counterparts. Scottish Labour are all but a memory and the Tories will soon follow. Even the traditional Conservative regions of Aberdeenshire and the Borders their influence has ebbed away after over a decade of extremely poor management, corruption and anti-indy propaganda.Just a crazy idea but you might find it more enlightening to ask them rather than just insult them. However angry you might be.
The tories promised to occupy the centre ground, Labour wanted to go back to the 1970s left. To win and retain power in this country you need to occupy the centre ground at least that’s been the case for the last 4 decades.
Despite the horror stories you’ve read and been told Tory voters by and large don’t want hungry kids, or corruption, they want an equitable benefits system where people like @Ifwecouldjust....... are actually properly taken care of, nor do they want a privatised NHS. They hate racism as much as the next person and don’t mind immigration either. Surprisingly not dissimilar to most Labour voters. What they don’t like is big government they tend to believe that the individual is king or queen and big government creates dependency of the individual on state. They believe the individual is better at spending money (and spreading wealth amongst the many) rather than government.
You’ll find them on Facebook complaining about “benefit scroungers” generally not because they hate the needy but because they will see people who can contribute to the system not doing so. They believe in the system and a principle of “those that can, do, and those that can’t are supported”.
They’re really not the enemy, make friends with one today #adopt-a-tory.
321 Tory MP's voted against feeding hungry children. 6 voted in favour. That is the reality of voting Tory. You can go on about the wealth of the individual all you want, but when multi million MP's vote to starve children to keep their donors profits excessive then you become the issue. When they (Alastair Burt) purposely sabotage private members bills to keep Tory Pharma donors supplying NHS patent free drugs at premium prices, that to me is a corrupt, criminal act. When you watch the NHS slowly become hamstringed by consultant firms and excessive real time cuts, again, you become the problem.
metalblue
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Scottish Tories are few and bar between. Thankfully. The Scottish Conservatives have become a parody party that are constantly left red faced by their Westminster counterparts. Scottish Labour are all but a memory and the Tories will soon follow. Even the traditional Conservative regions of Aberdeenshire and the Borders their influence has ebbed away after over a decade of extremely poor management, corruption and anti-indy propaganda.
321 Tory MP's voted against feeding hungry children. 6 voted in favour. That is the reality of voting Tory. You can go on about the wealth of the individual all you want, but when multi million MP's vote to starve children to keep their donors profits excessive then you become the issue. When they (Alastair Burt) purposely sabotage private members bills to keep Tory Pharma donors supplying NHS patent free drugs at premium prices, that to me is a corrupt, criminal act. When you watch the NHS slowly become hamstringed by consultant firms and excessive real time cuts, again, you become the problem.
I may be wrong here but they didn’t actually vote to let kids go hungry. As I understand it they voted not to extend free school meals over half term because they had given funding to local councils to provide it during this time and give schools a “break”. The councils have seemingly spent that money on something else (undoubtedly worthwhile so I won’t criticise them for it). Now where they have really fucked up is having funding coming from here there and everywhere. Why get your voucher/parcel from here except for this week where it’s coming from there. What a total PR disaster, they should have actually thought how this would play out and of course it will stick with many because their already programmed response is that the tories are heartless cunts.
I’d need to look into the pharma one, I dare say there are some connections that are questionable. It’s almost not enough these days to not be corrupt, you’ve got to be beyond question. The hypocrisy amongst politicians of all hues is difficult to swallow.