The Conservative Party

robbieh said:
Utter idiots. I think they'll get their wish. Can't see the Tories surviving the march of time.
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I presume the Tory Party member stats are from the yougov poll.... beyond weird - unless it is UKIP infiltration since 2016.
 
robbieh said:
If these arseholes hate Corbyn so much it suggests to me he's on the right track.
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I think the Tories overestimate Corbyn. No actually, I think Johnson and his lot pretend Corbyn is a threat so they vote for Johnson

Even if we accept Corbyn is on the right track, many don’t but let’s play along, Corbyn certainly isn’t the person to actually deliver Corbyn-ism
 
Blue Hefner said:
I think the Tories overestimate Corbyn. No actually, I think Johnson and his lot pretend Corbyn is a threat so they vote for Johnson

Even if we accept Corbyn is on the right track, many don’t but let’s play along, Corbyn certainly isn’t the person to actually deliver Corbyn-ism
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The Tories have made such an issue out of Corbyn and latterly McDonell that they lose sight of the fact that when they fuck Brexit up and jobs go and everyone suffers on Rees-Moggs 50 year march to prosperity a Labour Party with the same policies but a new leader will kill them. Despite what they and the PLP said about Corbyn he took Labour from nowhere to so close with policies that appealed to the electorate. A few tweeks in Labour with a Tory Party that has become a death cult and they are gone - possibly for many many years with a Farage led Brexit Party, UKIP and others there to mop up the disenfranchised right.
 
bluethrunthru said:
The Tories have made such an issue out of Corbyn and latterly McDonell that they lose sight of the fact that when they fuck Brexit up and jobs go and everyone suffers on Rees-Moggs 50 year march to prosperity a Labour Party with the same policies but a new leader will kill them. Despite what they and the PLP said about Corbyn he took Labour from nowhere to so close with policies that appealed to the electorate. A few tweeks in Labour with a Tory Party that has become a death cult and they are gone - possibly for many many years with a Farage led Brexit Party, UKIP and others there to mop up the disenfranchised right.
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When you say policies that appealed you do mean promise money to every Tom dick and Harry with a fully costed manifesto yes?
 
hilts said:
When you say policies that appealed you do mean promise money to every Tom dick and Harry with a fully costed manifesto yes?
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Yeah - Tom Dick Harry and Sally - its how you try and win elections - you set out costed promises - Boris on the other hand has made yet more spending promises today with no suggestion of how he would pay for them.

You can approve of them with an idea of how he can pay for them or rubbish them in here or the Boris thread - feel free...............
 
Opinions are like our souls...

The raging battle for Number 10 Downing Street’s hot seat goes on. Jeremy Hunt, Tory MP said, the next Prime Minister “must be trustworthy to avoid no Brexit”. He them went on to say he is trustworthy. Is he oblivious to why people call him an obscenity that rhymes with his name? A year as Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs, followed around 6 years as Secretary of State for Health and Social Care. Before that he was the Secretary of State for Culture, Media and Sport during a time when London held the 2012 Olympics. He was the Minister for the Olympics, having been Shadow Minister for the Olympics and Shadow Minister for Disabled People. Since 2005 he has represented the poor region of South West Surrey as their Member of Parliament. So what is wrong with 52 year old Jeremy Richard Streynsham Hunt?

Some would argue he is a ****. Others just slip it into news broadcasts and interviews. As a son of a senior officer in the Royal Navy (Admiral Sir Nicholas Hunt), Mr Hunt hasn’t done bad for himself. His rise from impoverished Lambeth to the Houses of Parliament has been meteoric. It hasn’t been helped by him being a distant relation of Elizabeth II and Sir Oswald Mosley. Mr Hunt was educated at a school for the needy, Charterhouse. Here, as headboy, he read Philosophy, Politics, and Economics before attending Magdalen College – a kind of inner-city comprehensive blighted by gun and knife crime. Mr Hunt has been an English language teacher in Japan, on a TEFL-scheme but couldn’t sell marmalade to the Japanese. He needed to explore the Peruvian market.

Mr Hunt has never had trouble with expenses, rules, and has never had a topsy-turvy attitude to exiting the European Union. Nepotism and privilege are word unfamiliar to him. The News Corporation takeover bid for BskyB went well. Nor did he need to apologise over anything relating to the Hillsborough football disaster and national scandal by governments since. If he did, he could use his tax savings from his Hot Course project.

Throughout it all Mr Hunt has supported the NHS – even at the Olympics, via the proven science of homoeopathy, abortion control, chasing foreigners for lost money, hammering back any payrises for medical staff (the greedy undeserving bastards), and managed 231,136 followers on a UK Government website. He has dispensed helpful advice, championed experts, assisted Accident and Emergency departments, and backed extra weekend work. He has truly understood junior doctors, expanded medical care, followed peer reviews closely, without a worry about his own interests. After the NHS he backed the bombers and our bombs and has since battered the EU for being like the former USSR. How his Chinese wife Lucia Guo finds time to see Mr Hunt is beyond me? His political heroes are Hull-born William Wilberforce and Maggie Fucking Thatcher. Mr Hunt cannot be mixed up with the retired cyclist Jeremy Hunt because that 2001 and 1997 British national road race champion wasn’t a ****. The now director sportif of Azerbaijani Continental team Synergy Baku Cycling Project. The cycling Jeremy Hunt would never refer to his Chinese wife as being “Japanese”. Bad stereotypes, talking about your own wife, and difficult rival nations aside, political Jeremy Hunt is a [INSERT EXPLETIVE HERE].

On the 24th of July, either The Right Honourable Jeremy Hunt or Boris Johnson will enter Number 10 as Prime Minister. The comedian and pub landlord sang. “If we’re going to go down, we’re going to go down together.” Knuckle down and strap yourself in, welcome to the new Blitz,. Snow White or The Huntsman?

Fuller blog here.
 
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